RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?

2013-11-02 Thread authfriend
BillyG wrote:
 
  CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be 
  true, doesn't justify 
  homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing 
  inherently wrong with an effeminate man, 
  per se.
 

 As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's 
a non sequitur.
 

 And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to 
be justified?
 





RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?

2013-11-02 Thread wgm4u
I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified?, we 
are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, nobody 
(God) hoists them upon us for some sick reason. If there are any mistakes, 
largely they are ours, it's called personal responsibility. This isn't our 
first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will graduate from this 
lesson school.
 

 God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 BillyG wrote:
 
  CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be 
  true, doesn't justify 
  homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing 
  inherently wrong with an effeminate man, 
  per se.
 
 

 As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's 
a non sequitur.
 

 And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to 
be justified?
 


 



RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?

2013-11-02 Thread authfriend
BillyG wrote: 
 
  I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified?
 

 You said that being born gay doesn't justify being gay. So what justifies your 
being straight? (If you are?)
 

 , we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, 
 nobody (God) hoists them upon us 
  for some sick reason.
 

 I don't believe I suggested that.
 

  If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal 
  responsibility.
 

 Right. Maybe we have the responsibility to leave the judgments of what is a 
mistake and what isn't to God.
 

  This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will 
  graduate from this lesson school.

 

  God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan.
 

 But you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 BillyG wrote:
 
  CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be 
  true, doesn't justify 
  homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing 
  inherently wrong with an effeminate man, 
  per se.
 
 

 As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's 
a non sequitur.
 

 And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to 
be justified?
 


 





RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?

2013-11-02 Thread wgm4u
I was talking about CLutes' suggestion about 3/3, it doesn't justify (or make 
un-sinful) what most scriptures condemn.  It may explain the condition, but 
even so, as I recall Mr. Lutes said it was 'willfulness' that created the 
imbalance, that's the whole story.
 

 How could *I* be gay if there is NO such thing! The real *I* is a sexless soul 
having a human experience in alternating bodies, both male and female. By gay 
if you mean by behavior, then I would say no.
 

 A person isn't Gay or Straight, that merely refers to their behavior NOT who 
they are inside. FWIW.
 

 God already makes the Judgments or right and wrong, so should we, unless we 
want to be like the rudderless ship soon to break upon the rocks of ignorance.
 

 I think I do know what is God's plan, don't YOU? after all of these years of 
meditation and exploration? Really?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 BillyG wrote: 
 
  I don't understand your question, what do you mean, has to be justified?
 
 

 You said that being born gay doesn't justify being gay. So what justifies your 
being straight? (If you are?)
 
 , we are born with the proclivities we have created and deserve, period, 
 nobody (God) hoists them upon us 
  for some sick reason.
 
 
 I don't believe I suggested that.
 
  If there are any mistakes, largely they are ours, it's called personal 
  responsibility.
 
 
 Right. Maybe we have the responsibility to leave the judgments of what is a 
mistake and what isn't to God.
 
  This isn't our first life, we've lived many before and ultimately we will 
  graduate from this lesson school.
 
 
  God HAS a plan, it's called by MMY the Divine Plan.
 
 
 But you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 BillyG wrote:
 
  CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be 
  true, doesn't justify 
  homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there is nothing 
  inherently wrong with an effeminate man, 
  per se.
 
 

 As you know, BillyG, many gay men are not the least bit effeminate, so that's 
a non sequitur.
 

 And weren't you just born straight? Would you call that a view that has to 
be justified?
 


 






RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?

2013-11-02 Thread sharelong60
William, I've been catching up with my Mom this morning so haven't been able to 
reply until now. Also I've got that knowledge meeting this afternoon. Anyway, 
thanks for your reply and I'll say more later but for now: who knows what 
really happened in Atlantis? Why, those of us who were there and remember! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 What the Universe gives birth to (Mother Nature) is different than what 'man' 
gives birth to often times, unless you think man has no freewill.
 

 CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be 
true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there 
is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As we sow, so shall 
we reap.
 

 Apparently the Atlantians were using Black Magic to create all forms of 
perversions, who really knows? :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives 
birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't 
think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, 
the universe. 

 

 Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a 
man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after 
three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three 
lives as the opposite gender. What do you think?
 

 Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why 
it was destroyed.

 
 
 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
   I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting 
more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story 
of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half 
animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) 
destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World.
 

 Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the 
balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone 
modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when 
we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will 
appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to 
understand that law.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:

 Thanks for posting.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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