Good catch, thanks Judy. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 3:03 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Share wrote: emptybill, when I think of a contemplative, I think of someone absorbed in adoration of God. I don't think of someone thinking and ruminating about God. Plus I think sanyama includes not only darshana Dharana, actually, not darshana. Two different things. but also dhyana and finally samadhi. But I would bet that all traditions of any depth have similar practices. From: emptybill@... emptybill@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Also, the TMO description of contemplation is based upon the term's mis-identification as thinking and rumination which was current in the 19th-20th century ... i.e. MMY's British era education. None of that is concordant with the classical description of theoria as used by Neo-Platonists nor with the Christian schema following after Evagrius. Several scholars have also demonstrated the similarities between the Greek idea of theoria and the Indian idea of darśana (darshan), including Ian Rutherford, Binod Kumar Agarwala, Gregory Grieve, and Michael A. Di Giovane.