Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of Yahoo.com

2014-02-26 Thread Bhairitu
Ram is a common shanti mantra given to the general public.  The 
journalist probably heard it wrong as Rum which is hilarious and might 
might make someone drunk. According to some including Bhavagan Das in 
his autobiography Maharishi used Ram in the first days of TM.   The 
reason TM uses beej mantras is because anyone can use them without any 
special ceremony.  I think MMY was looking for a system anyone could 
teach.   MMY also used shaktipat when teaching in the early days.


Keeping mantras secret might have also been just to keep Indians from 
blowing whistle on the project as nothing special.  Except for a select 
few, westerners of course in the 1960s and 70s knew about nothing 
mantras nor mantra shastra so would not have understood this.


On 02/26/2014 11:30 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:



Among the many different forms, Simmons said he teaches mantra-based 
meditation in which someone sits quietly and repeats a single word – 
in his case, “Rum” – for a period of 20 minutes. He has one meditation 
session in the morning at his Los Angeles home, then drives over to 
his ex-wife Kimora Lee Simmons’ home for another session from 6:45 
a.m. to 7:05 a.m. with his two daughters, Aoki Lee, 11, and Ming Lee, 
14. They’ve been meditating together for three years.







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of Yahoo.com

2014-02-26 Thread cardemaister
In Sanskrit, vowels save the short a-sound are pure. I guess another way to 
express
that is they are non-reduced.
I'm quite certain that for native speakers of English the impurity of the 
short
a-sound in Sanskrit is easier to hear than for those whose native languages 
have  only pure
vowel sounds, like e.g. Italian and Finnish.
Be it as it may, I think the short a-sound in Sanskrit *might* be closer to 
vowel sounds
like 'aw' in English 'raw', but short.
Listening to the pronunciation of 'rum' in Google translator rendered me quite 
shure
it's fairly close to the Sanskrit pronunciation of 'ram', whereas pronouncing 
that (ram)
according to the phonetic rules of English might make it too frontal(?), like 
the a-sound e.g.
in 'bat'.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of Yahoo.com

2014-02-26 Thread Bhairitu
Ram rhymes with Tom while Rum rhymes with bum.  Also it is 
highly improvable the writer knows ANY Sanskrit. :-D


On 02/26/2014 01:01 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:


In Sanskrit, vowels save the short a-sound are pure. I guess another 
way to express

that is they are non-reduced.
I'm quite certain that for native speakers of English the impurity 
of the short
a-sound in Sanskrit is easier to hear than for those whose native 
languages have  only pure

vowel sounds, like e.g. Italian and Finnish.
Be it as it may, I think the short a-sound in Sanskrit *might* be 
closer to vowel sounds

like 'aw' in English 'raw', but short.
Listening to the pronunciation of 'rum' in Google translator rendered 
me quite shure
it'sfairly close to the Sanskrit pronunciation of 'ram', whereas 
pronouncing that (ram)
according to the phonetic rules of English might make it too 
frontal(?), like the a-sound e.g.

in 'bat'.






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of Yahoo.com

2014-02-26 Thread Michael Jackson
Well, hell, old Marshy always said the mantra didn't matter, so I think I'll 
meditate to bourbon tonight. Ora maybe tequila and if that works I'll make 
up some sutras like tequila with an amrit chaser and see can I walk through a 
wall.

On Wed, 2/26/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of 
Yahoo.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 9:34 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
   
   
 Ram
 rhymes with Tom while Rum
   rhymes with bum.  Also it is highly
 improvable the writer knows
   ANY Sanskrit.  :-D 
 
   
 
   On 02/26/2014 01:01 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 
   
   
   
 In Sanskrit, vowels save the short a-sound
   are pure. I guess another way to
 express
 
   that is they are non-reduced.
 
   I'm quite certain that for native speakers
 of English the
   impurity of the short
 
   a-sound in Sanskrit is easier to hear than for
 those whose
   native languages have  only pure
 
   vowel sounds, like e.g. Italian and Finnish.
 
   Be it as it may, I think the short a-sound in
 Sanskrit
   *might* be closer
   to vowel sounds
 
   like 'aw' in English 'raw',
 but short.
 
   Listening to the pronunciation of
 'rum' in Google
   translator rendered me quite shure
 
   it's
 fairly close
   to the Sanskrit pronunciation of
 'ram', whereas
   pronouncing that (ram)
 
   according to the phonetic rules of English
 might make it
   too frontal(?), like the a-sound e.g.
 
   in 'bat'.    
 
   
   
   
   
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of Yahoo.com

2014-02-26 Thread Michael Jackson
Given the amount of PR Rush has given the TMO over the years, reckon they'll 
reciprocate by having the rajas encourage all the TM'ers in the world to buy 
Simmon's book on non-TM meditation?
Reckon the MUM bookstore will carry it and the Peace Palaces? Might could get a 
discount if you paid in raams.

On Wed, 2/26/14, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of 
Yahoo.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 9:38 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Well, hell, old Marshy always said the mantra
 didn't matter, so I think I'll meditate to
 bourbon tonight. Ora maybe tequila
 and if that works I'll make up some sutras like
 tequila with an amrit chaser and see can I walk
 through a wall.
 
 
 
 On Wed, 2/26/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM -
 Front page of Yahoo.com
 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2014, 9:34 PM
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 

 

 

 

 
  Ram
 
  rhymes with Tom while Rum
 
rhymes with bum.  Also it is highly
 
  improvable the writer knows
 
ANY Sanskrit.  :-D 
 
  
 

 
  
 
On 02/26/2014 01:01 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com
 
  wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
    
 

 

 
  In Sanskrit, vowels save the short a-sound
 
are pure. I guess another way to
 
  express
 
  
 
that is they are non-reduced.
 
  
 
I'm quite certain that for native
 speakers
 
  of English the
 
impurity of the short
 
  
 
a-sound in Sanskrit is easier to hear than
 for
 
  those whose
 
native languages have  only pure
 
  
 
vowel sounds, like e.g. Italian and Finnish.
 
  
 
Be it as it may, I think the short a-sound
 in
 
  Sanskrit
 
*might* be closer
 
to vowel sounds
 
  
 
like 'aw' in English 'raw',
 
  but short.
 
  
 
Listening to the pronunciation of
 
  'rum' in Google
 
translator rendered me quite shure
 
  
 
it's
 
  fairly close
 
to the Sanskrit pronunciation of
 
  'ram', whereas
 
pronouncing that (ram)
 
  
 
according to the phonetic rules of English
 
  might make it
 
too frontal(?), like the a-sound e.g.
 
  
 
in 'bat'.    
 
  
 

 

 

 

 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Russell Simmons on TM - Front page of Yahoo.com

2014-02-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/26/2014 3:38 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 I think I'll meditate to bourbon tonight. Ora maybe tequila and if 
 that works I'll make up some sutras like tequila with an amrit 
 chaser and see can I walk through a wall.
 
We all do what we can for world peace. Go figure.