Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-24 Thread Mike Dixon
Not sure what you're talking about here. What 100% pension are you talking 
about? SS was never meant to be a *pension*, it's a supplement to whatever 
savings and pension you were supposed to have worked for while paying into SS. 
Divvy up jobs? Who's in charge of that and who decides who gets a job and who 
goes on *leisure pay*? No longer enough full time jobs? Maybe we should ask why 
and what we can do to create them and what we have done to diminish them. 
Obamacare is a good example of why we are having fewer full time jobs. Work 
thirty hours or more and your employer has to provide insurance which they may 
or may not be able to afford. When 10-20 million people cross our boarders 
illegally because *all they want is a job*, can we say there aren't enough jobs 
to go around? Oh, I know, some jobs are just below our *dignity*. I remember a 
day when taking public assistance was below our dignity. If someone thinks they 
are too good for a certain kind of
 job that is available , maybe they just aught to have their ego busted so they 
can see just how valuable they really are.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they were 
working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually isn't 
feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected (regardless of the 
aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea when you get older is you 
probably don't need and often want as much.  You don't need a full pension.When 
there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then you have to divvy up the 
jobs.  But that won't work for employers.  So what are you going to do, Mike?  
Tell people to crawl away and die?  You know how that will go down.  They'll 
tell you to crawl away and die.On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
  
We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You pay 
into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure 
society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into 
it.  Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or 
just be the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can 
even be a single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids. 
The government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give 
you a phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to make 
do with a little.



From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing 
what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer 
waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are not enough jobs for 
everybody.  I push the new leisure society where you pay people FOR NOT 
WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller suggested this over 50 years ago. 
Also many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment ran out 
while looking for a job in their field.  A friend who is a very competent 
software engineer and college professor found himself taking Social Security 
at age 67 even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at 
age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks. On 09/23/2013 
12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
A Christian 
nation:http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-24 Thread Share Long
Ah, Richard, thank you and  I LOVE LOVE LOVE that bit from Isha Upanishad 
expecially: one should enjoy it with renunciation. So yin/yang, so 
Shiva/Shakti, so light and shadow, etc.





 From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
 


  
On 9/23/2013 7:21 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 The idea when you get older is you probably don't need and
  often want as 
 much...

It's called 'down-shifting' - going back to the basics. All my
  life I've been doing
the up-shifting. This is the mime speaking.

That's what I'm going to do - sell almost everything, the cars,
  houses and the 
boat, and move to the country. Live the simple life. Downshifting
  - a move away
from materialism towards a simpler, more fulfilling life!

According to Suma Varughese, downshifting also known as simple
  living or 
voluntary simplicity, is a path I want to take, away from the
  land of the 
shopping mall.

The only thing we can do to downshift is to reduce our own wants
  and cut loose 
from the consumerist trap. What has already been seen to be the
  route to
individual happiness also becomes the route to that of the
  environment. 

Some adopt the devotional approach. Nothing is ours, for all is
  God's according 
to Swami Shantanand Saraswati,  'The Man Who Wanted to Meet God': 

The Isha Upanishad says that the universe is permeated by the
  Absolute. 
Whatever one sees in creation, whatever moves one should use it
  fully and enjoy
this absolute everywhere, but one should enjoy it with
  renunciation. One should 
not try to hold it or covet it. One need not try to possess it. 

Enjoy it and give it up.

http://www.lifepositive.com/writers/Suma_Varughese.asp


  
Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they were 
working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually isn't 
feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected (regardless of the 
aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea when you get older is you 
probably don't need and often want as much.  You don't need a full pension.

When there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then
  you have to divvy up the jobs.  But that won't work for
  employers.  So what are you going to do, Mike?  Tell
  people to crawl away and die?  You know how that will go
  down.  They'll tell you to crawl away and die.

On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

  
We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You 
pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure 
society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into 
it.  Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or 
just be the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can 
even be a single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids. 
The government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give 
you a phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to 
make do with a little.



From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing 
what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer 
waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are not enough jobs for 
everybody.  I push the new leisure society where you pay people FOR NOT 
WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller suggested this over 50 years ago. 
Also many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment ran 
out while looking for a job in their field.  A friend who is a very competent 
software engineer and college professor found himself taking Social Security 
at age 67 even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at 
age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks. On 09/23/2013 
12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-24 Thread Bhairitu
Typical Tea Partier thinking on your part Mike.  Why do you buy that 
bullshit?  First off the problems that governments especially on state 
and city levels are having is due to promising their  employees pensions 
at a full pay when they retire.  No pensions are NOT SS but I would have 
assumed you would have gotten that and had been paying attention to the 
pensions promised during boom times to police and fire fighters as an 
example.  I've read posts from people who got those pensions thinking it 
was nice to have but really not that necessary.  In reality it turns out 
the governments can't pay them.


You know I don't  like Obamacare either but for a different reason than 
you.  It wound up being a big handout to the insurance bandits er 
companies.  I wanted Single Payer just like other countries have. But 
nooo, we can't have that, it's commooonism. There is no lack of 
stupid people in the US.


On 09/24/2013 06:05 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
Not sure what you're talking about here. What 100% pension are you 
talking about? SS was never meant to be a *pension*, it's a supplement 
to whatever savings and pension you were supposed to have worked for 
while paying into SS. Divvy up jobs? Who's in charge of that and who 
decides who gets a job and who goes on *leisure pay*? No longer enough 
full time jobs? Maybe we should ask why and what we can do to create 
them and what we have done to diminish them. Obamacare is a good 
example of why we are having fewer full time jobs. Work thirty hours 
or more and your employer has to provide insurance which they may or 
may not be able to afford. When 10-20 million people cross our 
boarders illegally because *all they want is a job*, can we say there 
aren't enough jobs to go around? Oh, I know, some jobs are just below 
our *dignity*. I remember a day when taking public assistance was 
below our dignity. If someone thinks they are too good for a certain 
kind of job that is available, maybe they just aught to have their ego 
busted so they can see just how valuable they really are.


*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 5:21 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they 
were working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually 
isn't feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected 
(regardless of the aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea 
when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as much.  
You don't need a full pension.When there are no longer full time jobs 
for everyone then you have to divvy up the jobs.  But that won't work 
for employers.  So what are you going to do, Mike?  Tell people to 
crawl away and die? You know how that will go down.  They'll tell you 
to crawl away and die.On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
We already have that *leisuresociety*. Ever heard of Social Security? 
You pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join 
that leisure society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't 
even have to pay into it.  Just have something wrong that prevents 
you from being able to work or just be the child of a parent that 
died and had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a single mother and 
have the government pay you to raise your kids. The government will 
find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a phone, 
free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning 
how to make do with a little.


*From:* Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop 
dead. Doing what? How would you like a near aspergers like former 
computer programmer waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are 
not enough jobs for everybody.  I push the new leisure society where 
you pay people FOR NOT WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller 
suggested this over 50 years ago. Also many people with retirement 
funds used them up after unemployment ran out while looking for a job 
in their field.  A friend who is a very competent software engineer 
and college professor found himself taking Social Security at age 67 
even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at 
age 70. America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks. On 
09/23/2013 12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
A Christian 
nation:http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html






Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-24 Thread Mike Dixon
Have to agree with you on the failed promises to all those government employees 
in regards to pensions, never should have been done. It's called passing the 
buck. Sure kept the unions happy while it was being done. Yet we see this 
happening on a much bigger scale nationally with all the social programs. It's 
not sustainable. It's all going to collapse one day and it's the Tea Partiers 
that are screaming it.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
Typical Tea Partier thinking on your part Mike.  Why do you buy that bullshit?  
First off the problems that governments especially on state and city levels are 
having is due to promising their  employees pensions at a full pay when they 
retire.  No pensions are NOT SS but I would have assumed you would have gotten 
that and had been paying attention to the pensions promised during boom times 
to police and fire fighters as an example.  I've read posts from people who got 
those pensions thinking it was nice to have but really not that necessary.  In 
reality it turns out the governments can't pay them.You know I don't  like 
Obamacare either but for a different reason than you.  It wound up being a big 
handout to the insurance bandits er companies.  I wanted Single Payer just like 
other countries have. But nooo, we can't have that, it's commooonism. 
There is no lack of stupid people in the US. On 09/24/2013 06:05 AM, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
  
Not sure what you're talking about here. What 100% pension are you talking 
about? SS was never meant to be a *pension*, it's a supplement to whatever 
savings and pension you were supposed to have worked for while paying into SS. 
Divvy up jobs? Who's in charge of that and who decides who gets a job and who 
goes on *leisure pay*? No longer enough full time jobs? Maybe we should ask 
why and what we can do to create them and what we have done to diminish them. 
Obamacare is a good example of why we are having fewer full time jobs. Work 
thirty hours or more and your employer has to provide insurance which they may 
or may not be able to afford. When 10-20 million people cross our boarders 
illegally because *all they want is a job*, can we say there aren't enough 
jobs to go around? Oh, I know, some jobs are just below our *dignity*. I 
remember a day when taking public assistance was below our dignity. If someone 
thinks they are too good for a certain kind of
 job that is available , maybe they just aught to have their ego busted so they 
can see just how valuable they really are.



From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they were 
working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually isn't 
feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected (regardless of the 
aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea when you get older is you 
probably don't need and often want as much.  You don't need a full pension. 
When there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then you have to divvy up 
the jobs.  But that won't work for employers.  So what are you going to do, 
Mike?  Tell people to crawl away and die?  You know how that will go down.  
They'll tell you to crawl away and die. On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
  
We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You 
pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure 
society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into 
it.  Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or 
just be the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can 
even be a single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids. 
The government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give 
you a phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to 
make do with a little.



From: Bhairitu mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing 
what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer 
waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are not enough jobs for 
everybody.  I push the new leisure society where you pay people FOR NOT 
WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller suggested this over 50 years ago. 
Also many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment ran 
out while looking for a job in their field

[FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-re\
tirement-flipping-burgers.html
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-r\
etirement-flipping-burgers.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-23 Thread Bhairitu
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. 
Doing what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer 
programmer waiting on you at Burger King?


At that there are not enough jobs for everybody.  I push the new leisure 
society where you pay people FOR NOT WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky 
Fuller suggested this over 50 years ago.


Also many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment 
ran out while looking for a job in their field.  A friend who is a very 
competent software engineer and college professor found himself taking 
Social Security at age 67 even though he wanted to wait until he could 
get the full amount at age 70.


America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks.

On 09/23/2013 12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:


A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html






Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-23 Thread Mike Dixon
We already have that *leisure society*. Ever heard of Social Security? You pay 
into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join that leisure 
society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't even have to pay into it. 
 Just have something wrong that prevents you from being able to work or just be 
the child of a parent that died and had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a 
single mother and have the government pay you to raise your kids. The 
government will find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a 
phone, free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth having, 
it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning how to make do with 
a little.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

  
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop dead. Doing 
what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former computer programmer 
waiting on you at Burger King?  At that there are not enough jobs for 
everybody.  I push the new leisure society where you pay people FOR NOT 
WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller suggested this over 50 years 
ago.Also many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment ran 
out while looking for a job in their field.  A friend who is a very competent 
software engineer and college professor found himself taking Social Security at 
age 67 even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at age 
70.America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks.On 09/23/2013 12:46 PM, 
turquoiseb wrote:
  
A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 9/23/2013 3:19 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 ...many people with retirement funds used them up after unemployment 
ran out

 while looking for a job in their field.

One guy I know had a job as a Professor of Geology at the local 
community college
- he had full medical and $70,000 a year salary. He owned teo houses and 
one was
rented out to me for $350 a month to cover the mortgage. I remember one 
time

talking to him about the Motley Fool.

Somehow, he got real confused.

He decided to apply for his Social Security at age 60 but he was turned 
down. But

then, he started getting checks every month from the SSA. Go figure.

Anyway, after about two years later he gets a letter from the SSA saying 
it was a

mistake and he had to pay the money back.

Then, he took a leave of absence from his job and moved to Nova Scotia 
with his
23 cats. After a real hard winter up there he came back down here 
because he ran

out of money and he got his job back.

Then, for some reason his wife convinced him to kick me out and remodel 
the rent
house. So, he borrowed $10,000 and took out a second mortgage to fix the 
place

up.

Then he decided to retire from his teaching job and sell the houses and 
move back

up there to Canada. Go figure.

So, he got his retirement settlement from the community college of 
$30,000 and a
pension of $1,240 a month. He sold both houses at a loss and drove back 
up there

with the 23 cats in a truck and a van.

Now he is preparing for a very cold winter and waiting in line in Canada 
to get knee

replacements, and he has to pay $650 a month to the SSA every month!

If he had kept his job he could be making $70,00 a year with full 
medical benefits,

he could have both knees replaced and own two houses with one paid for by
renting it.

This is a cautionary tale:

Try not to adopt 23 cats and keep your job until you are debt-free.

A friend who is a very competent software engineer and college 
professor found himself taking Social Security at age 67 even though 
he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at age 70.


America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks.

On 09/23/2013 12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:


A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html








Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-23 Thread Bhairitu
Nothing wrong with Social Security. But there is something wrong with 
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they 
were working.  What were they smoking when they did that?  it actually 
isn't feasible. Times were booming and the idiots you elected 
(regardless of the aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea 
when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as much.  
You don't need a full pension.


When there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then you have to 
divvy up the jobs.  But that won't work for employers.  So what are you 
going to do, Mike?  Tell people to crawl away and die? You know how that 
will go down.  They'll tell you to crawl away and die.


On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
We already have that *leisuresociety*. Ever heard of Social Security? 
You pay into it for many years and at a certain age you get to join 
that leisure society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't 
even have to pay into it.  Just have something wrong that prevents you 
from being able to work or just be the child of a parent that died and 
had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a single mother and have the 
government pay you to raise your kids. The government will find you a 
place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a phone, free medical 
care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth having, it's worth 
working for*. The work in this case is learning how to make do with a 
little.


*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop 
dead. Doing what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former 
computer programmer waiting on you at Burger King? At that there are 
not enough jobs for everybody.  I push the new leisure society where 
you pay people FOR NOT WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller 
suggested this over 50 years ago.Also many people with retirement 
funds used them up after unemployment ran out while looking for a job 
in their field.  A friend who is a very competent software engineer 
and college professor found himself taking Social Security at age 67 
even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at 
age 70.America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks.On 
09/23/2013 12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html







Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful

2013-09-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 9/23/2013 7:21 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 The idea when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as
 much...

It's called 'down-shifting' - going back to the basics. All my life I've 
been doing

the up-shifting. This is the mime speaking.

That's what I'm going to do - sell almost everything, the cars, houses 
and the
boat, and move to the country. Live the simple life. Downshifting - a 
move away

from materialism towards a simpler, more fulfilling life!

According to Suma Varughese, downshifting also known as simple living or
voluntary simplicity, is a path I want to take, away from the land of the
shopping mall.

The only thing we can do to downshift is to reduce our own wants and 
cut loose

from the consumerist trap. What has already been seen to be the route to
individual happiness also becomes the route to that of the environment.

Some adopt the devotional approach. Nothing is ours, for all is God's 
according

to Swami Shantanand Saraswati,  'The Man Who Wanted to Meet God':

The Isha Upanishad says that the universe is permeated by the Absolute.
Whatever one sees in creation, whatever moves one should use it fully 
and enjoy
this absolute everywhere, but one should enjoy it with renunciation. One 
should

not try to hold it or covet it. One need not try to possess it.

Enjoy it and give it up.

http://www.lifepositive.com/writers/Suma_Varughese.asp

Nothing wrong with Social Security.  But there is something wrong with 
foolishly promising people a pension that pays the same as when they 
were working.  What were they smoking when they did that? it actually 
isn't feasible.  Times were booming and the idiots you elected 
(regardless of the aisle they sat on) made those promises.  The idea 
when you get older is you probably don't need and often want as much.  
You don't need a full pension.


When there are no longer full time jobs for everyone then you have to 
divvy up the jobs.  But that won't work for employers.  So what are 
you going to do, Mike?  Tell people to crawl away and die?  You know 
how that will go down.  They'll tell you to crawl away and die.


On 09/23/2013 02:39 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
We already have that *leisuresociety*. Ever heard of Social Security? 
You pay into  it for many years and at a certain age you get to join 
that leisure society,. Get paid for not working. Many people don't 
even have to pay into it.  Just have something wrong that prevents 
you from being able to work or just be the child of a parent that 
died and had paid into it. Heck, you can even be a single mother and 
have the government pay you to raise your kids. The government will 
find you a place to live , feed you and your kids, give you a phone, 
free medical care. There's an old saying, *if something is worth 
having, it's worth working for*. The work in this case is learning 
how to make do with a little.


*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Monday, September 23, 2013 1:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful
And the Fascist, I mean Repubicans, want us to work until we drop 
dead. Doing what?  How would you like a near aspergers like former 
computer programmer waiting on you at Burger King? At that there are 
not enough jobs for everybody.  I push the new leisure society where 
you pay people FOR NOT WORKING.  Sound upside down?  Bucky Fuller 
suggested this over 50 years ago.Also many people with retirement 
funds used them up after unemployment ran out while looking for a job 
in their field.  A friend who is a very competent software engineer 
and college professor found himself taking Social Security at age 67 
even though he wanted to wait until he could get the full amount at 
age 70.America ain't Beautiful anymore.  In fact it sucks.On 
09/23/2013 12:46 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

A Christian nation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-23/why-100-000-salary-may-yield-retirement-flipping-burgers.html








[FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful: Assault weapons are very handy

2013-05-09 Thread turquoiseb
MILITARY-STYLE assault rifles have many practical applications 
for the perfectly sane, it has been claimed.

As America mourns the victims of Sandy Hook, pro-firearm 
campaigners in the US have warned against tighter controls 
on so-called 'assault weapons', highlighting the sheer 
usefulness of semi-automatic artillery.

Mother-of-three Emma Bradford said: We have a big yard so 
when it's time to call the family in for meals I fire a 
burst of rounds into the air, it's sort of like a 'dinner 
gong' but with bullets.

If my gun weren't semi-auto I'd have to reload between 
shots – more like a succession of single rounds – which 
would be ineffective because it could be mistaken for a 
car backfiring.

However I do think America needs to reform its mental 
health laws. This obviously would not affect sane people 
like me.

Texas office worker Tom Logan said: I use my assault 
rifle to re-heat coffee. After firing a number of rounds 
into a wall the barrel gets very hot, and then I hold my 
mug against it.

If you want to take my warm mug away you'll have to pry 
it from my cold dead hands.

Huntsman and NRA member Budd Hobbs said: Normal guns are 
fine for deer but I'm actually after the Jersey Devil, 
a sort of bear/bat/wolf hybrid from popular American 
mythology.

When that mythical chimera is charging at me I won't 
have time to reload. So if they found my bloodstained 
boots next to some massive three-toed footprints, it'd 
be those peacenik Democrats to blame.

You can't argue with that logic, can you? Especially 
as I've got an assault weapon.

- From thedailymash.co.uk





Re: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful: Assault weapons are very handy

2013-05-09 Thread Mike Dixon
Ray Bolger, the scarecrow from the *Wizard of Oz* would be proud of that 
argument! Damn, now I'm not going to get that song, *If I only had a Brain* out 
of my head all day long! 


From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:21 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] America the Beautiful: Assault weapons are very handy

  
MILITARY-STYLE assault rifles have many practical applications 
for the perfectly sane, it has been claimed.

As America mourns the victims of Sandy Hook, pro-firearm 
campaigners in the US have warned against tighter controls 
on so-called 'assault weapons', highlighting the sheer 
usefulness of semi-automatic artillery.

Mother-of-three Emma Bradford said: We have a big yard so 
when it's time to call the family in for meals I fire a 
burst of rounds into the air, it's sort of like a 'dinner 
gong' but with bullets.

If my gun weren't semi-auto I'd have to reload between 
shots – more like a succession of single rounds – which 
would be ineffective because it could be mistaken for a 
car backfiring.

However I do think America needs to reform its mental 
health laws. This obviously would not affect sane people 
like me.

Texas office worker Tom Logan said: I use my assault 
rifle to re-heat coffee. After firing a number of rounds 
into a wall the barrel gets very hot, and then I hold my 
mug against it.

If you want to take my warm mug away you'll have to pry 
it from my cold dead hands.

Huntsman and NRA member Budd Hobbs said: Normal guns are 
fine for deer but I'm actually after the Jersey Devil, 
a sort of bear/bat/wolf hybrid from popular American 
mythology.

When that mythical chimera is charging at me I won't 
have time to reload. So if they found my bloodstained 
boots next to some massive three-toed footprints, it'd 
be those peacenik Democrats to blame.

You can't argue with that logic, can you? Especially 
as I've got an assault weapon.

- From thedailymash.co.uk




[FairfieldLife] America The Beautiful

2013-03-11 Thread turquoiseb

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