Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. He 
is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for that 
land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated that 
the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is 
readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his 
opponents, and beating them at their own game.  

 Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very 
much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme 
position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 
mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook 
business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing 
special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from 
the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of 
the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
 

 You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't 
care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses 
and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his 
material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in 
comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the 
measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his 
misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived 
greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I 
just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary 
humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!
 I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals 
all over the world and must be doing something right.

 I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
 

 Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro


 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
 

 Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Kind of like Saul Alinsky of business, eh? President Obama and Hillary are Saul 
Alinsky followers.

 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 9:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as 
usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if 
negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has 
correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, 
wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to the deluge of 
empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at their own game. 
Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very 
much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme 
position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 
mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook 
business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing 
special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from 
the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of 
the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't 
care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses 
and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his 
material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in 
comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the 
measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his 
misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived 
greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I 
just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary 
humans I have yet to see hit the big time.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and 
negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right.
I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol 
first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have wo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I think "subordinary" is the best descriptor yet.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
 

 You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't 
care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses 
and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his 
material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in 
comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the 
measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his 
misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived 
greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I 
just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary 
humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!
 I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals 
all over the world and must be doing something right.

 I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
 

 Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro


 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
 

 Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
 

 I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.
 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. 
He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for 
that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated 
that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is 
readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his 
opponents, and beating them at their own game.  

 Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very 
much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme 
position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 
mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook 
business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing 
special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from 
the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of 
the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything.
 

 Yes, for these people "winning" is everything but of course "winning" is a 
matter of perspective which many of these one-dimensional people have a limited 
view of (make the deal and you're the winner - all else be damned). Trump is 
not so much a "monster" because he does what he does in business. What makes 
him so odious, in my view, is that he is prepared to sacrifice everyone else in 
his bid to continue to 'conquer the world' for his own selfish reasons and he 
could almost do this in such a high position of power as leader of a country. 
The guy doesn't understand the concept of moderation, balance or selflessness. 
All of that in the hands of a world leader can, inevitably, make them monstrous.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
 

 You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't 
care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses 
and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his 
material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in 
comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the 
measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his 
misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived 
greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I 
just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary 
humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
 


 
 

 









 














 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Exactly - a one trump pony. He can understanding netting out a balance sheet, 
but nuance and moderation cannot be measured in dollars and cents, so he is 
lost.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as usual. 
He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if negotiating for 
that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he has correctly calculated 
that the one with the most bluster, boasting, and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is 
readily building an audience due to the deluge of empty promises from his 
opponents, and beating them at their own game.  

 Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales VPs very 
much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take an extreme 
position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, just like offering 20 
mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is running this like a textbook 
business school case. He won't make it all the way, but this stuff is nothing 
special, all corporate think and manipulation, for making the sale. Far from 
the monster you make him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of 
the sales executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything.
 

 Yes, for these people "winning" is everything but of course "winning" is a 
matter of perspective which many of these one-dimensional people have a limited 
view of (make the deal and you're the winner - all else be damned). Trump is 
not so much a "monster" because he does what he does in business. What makes 
him so odious, in my view, is that he is prepared to sacrifice everyone else in 
his bid to continue to 'conquer the world' for his own selfish reasons and he 
could almost do this in such a high position of power as leader of a country. 
The guy doesn't understand the concept of moderation, balance or selflessness. 
All of that in the hands of a world leader can, inevitably, make them monstrous.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
 

 You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't 
care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses 
and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his 
material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in 
comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the 
measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his 
misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived 
greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I 
just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary 
humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
 


 
 

 









 














 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

His followers believe the country should be run like a business.  Do 
they realize that once you set foot in a big corporation your personal 
rights mean nothing anymore?  And most likely on the surreal chance that 
he ever would get into office his first address to the American public 
would be, "you're fired!"


On 01/24/2016 11:59 AM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Exactly - a one trump pony. He can understanding netting out a balance 
sheet, but nuance and moderation cannot be measured in dollars and 
cents, so he is lost.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I watched him for a few minutes monopolizing the debate last night as 
usual. He is setting his position for the nomination, as he would if 
negotiating for that land he needs for a golf course. At this stage he 
has correctly calculated that the one with the most bluster, boasting, 
and BS, wins. Unfortunately he is readily building an audience due to 
the deluge of empty promises from his opponents, and beating them at 
their own game.


Business as usual for the trumpster. I have met and dealt with sales 
VPs very much like him. His playbook is standard - no surprises - Take 
an extreme position, insult the opposition, and don't retreat, ever, 
just like offering 20 mil for a hotel worth twice as much. He is 
running this like a textbook business school case. He won't make it 
all the way, but this stuff is nothing special, all corporate think 
and manipulation, for making the sale.Far from the monster you make 
him out to be, he is pretty much the standard template of the sales 
executive in corporate America these days. Winning is everything.


Yes, for these people "winning" is everything but of course "winning" 
is a matter of perspec! tive which many of these one-dimensional 
people have a limited view of (make the deal and you're the winner - 
all else be damned). Trump is not so much a "monster" because he does 
what he does in business. What makes him so odious, in my view, is 
that he is prepared to sacrifice everyone else in his bid to continue 
to 'conquer the world' for his own selfish reasons and he could almost 
do this in such a high position of power as leader of a country. The 
guy doesn't understand the concept of moderation, balance or 
selflessness. All of that in the hands of a world leader can, 
inevitably, make them monstrous.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he 
shows his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.


You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I 
don't care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he 
possesses big houses and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by 
whatever he counts as his material achievements. It all means 
absolutely nothing when viewed in comparison to who he is, what he 
says, the content he conveys. This is the measure of a person not what 
he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his misconstrued efforts 
to bu! ild an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived greatness. 
This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all 
up. I just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most 
subordinary humans I have yet to see hit the big time.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!

 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on 
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright 
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is 
perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times 
harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a 
gun"?
However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.

I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a 
different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances 
with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling 
them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these 
people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going 
sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too 
delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual 
war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around 
the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try 
his strong arming in the political world as President.  Trump is a menace.  
From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?



  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.





   From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

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[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
 

 Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
 

 I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.
 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.

 

 I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a 
different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances 
with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling 
them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these 
people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going 
sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too 
delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual 
war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around 
the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try 
his strong arming in the political world as President.  Trump is a menace.

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Repu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and 
negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right.
I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on 
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright 
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is 
perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times 
harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a 
gun"?
However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.

I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a 
different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances 
with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling 
them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these 
people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going 
sideways. Pissi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
 

 You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't 
care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses 
and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his 
material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in 
comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the 
measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his 
misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived 
greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I 
just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary 
humans I have yet to see hit the big time.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!
 I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals 
all over the world and must be doing something right.

 I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
 

 Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro


 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
 

 Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
 

 I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.
 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!
 I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals 
all over the world and must be doing something right.

 I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
 

 Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro


 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
 

 Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
 

 I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.
 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracti

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And he doesn't play by the rules either!

 

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
You see, I don't care how many tall buildings or casinos he's built. I don't 
care if he can wheel a deal. I couldn't give a crap if he possesses big houses 
and fancy cars. I am immune to being impressed by whatever he counts as his 
material achievements. It all means absolutely nothing when viewed in 
comparison to who he is, what he says, the content he conveys. This is the 
measure of a person not what he can manipulate and use to his advantage in his 
misconstrued efforts to build an empire as testimony to his ego and perceived 
greatness. This man is a pathetic human being who has much to learn and 
everything to abandon/have the strength and wherewithal to give it all up. I 
just watch him and stand awestruck. He is truly one of the most subordinary 
humans I have yet to see hit the big time.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and 
negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right.
I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol 
first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Sub

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows his 
contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!
 I do know that he is a successful business man and negotiates business deals 
all over the world and must be doing something right.

 I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
 

 Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol first:
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro
 
http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro


 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
 

 Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
 

 I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.
 

 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

He sucks all of the oxygen out of the room , doesn't he? Nobody pays any 
attention to the others.He gets all of the media attention and it doesn't cost 
him a dime and it's all* politics*. Guy is pretty Effin smart, especially 
when he horrifies his opposition. But then he knows his opposition are a bunch 
of wimps that  can't handle it because they are accustomed to PC. It's like 
Mike Tyson vs Mahatma Gandhi. It's horrifying! Somebody is going to get the 
crap beat out of them. The gloves are off! LOL!
Anne, many people think the reason McCain and Romney lost their elections was 
because they wouldn't go on the attack. They didn't want to appear too negative 
because it would turn off the undecided voters, it wouldn't be politically 
correct. Some people see Political Correctness as Political castration, 
intending to make one side impotent. I think Trump is testing that.
 
Hillary is not a sympathetic figure. She was in charge of the Bimbo irruptions. 
She threatened the women that called- out Bill while saying every woman should 
be believed when it comes to sexual assault. She denied more security in 
Bhengazi. Trump can come- off like a wife beater when dealing with Hillary in 
the campaign and it won't hurt him ... and he probably will.
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and 
negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right.
I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol 
first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

He's not very PC!

 

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    Most of his facial expressions are extremely distasteful as well; he shows 
his contempt for everyone and his inhumanity on his face.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I've never set in on any negotiations that he has been involved in. Nor have I 
read his book*The Art of the Deal*, a best seller. Neither have I spoken with 
anyone that has negotiated with him and made deals with him.  So no, I'm not 
qualified to critique his negotiating skills. Have you ever read about or 
spoken with anyone that has negotiated with him on anything? Do they feel 
bullied, taken advantage of, cheated or maybe content? Or perhaps, they believe 
they got the better of him!I do know that he is a successful business man and 
negotiates business deals all over the world and must be doing something right.
I don't think you heard him say that he would hire the best *negotiators* as 
*advisers*. I did hear him say he would have the best negotiators do the 
*negotiating*. Advisers advise, negotiators negotiate.
Advisers can advise on the negotiating. But let's not split hairs here. Bottom 
line, the guy is despicable, harrible, disastrous as a human being. In case you 
don't believe me, have a look but take some Gravol 
first:http://presidential-candidates.insidegov.com/stories/5187/23-ridiculously-offensive-donald-trump-quotes#Intro



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Anne , are you in a position to criticize Trump's negotiating skills?  If you 
are , I think the New York Times would love to have an editorial from you, the 
National Review also!
Sure I am and so are you. Just watch him. He may have pushed and bullied his 
way around the corporate world but these tactics don't work as the leader of a 
country. My reasons for thinking this are below in my initial post. It doesn't 
take much of a brain to extrapolate from all of his bluster from the podium 
that his way or the highway can only end in war and disaster. Perhaps he is all 
hot air and were he to actually assume the office of the President of the US he 
will turn out to be a contemplative, sane, rational, balanced human being but 
from all evidence from the stump he appears exactly the opposite. It is 
precisely because his techniques have worked in his (corporate) world so far 
that he is stupid enough to think they will work in the different context in 
his role as President (although he will never assume office). I heard him say 
earlier on that he will hire the best negotiators in the world as his advisors 
even though they are "harrible, harrible human beings". Does this sound like a 
good idea to you? 
I grew up in a family where the patriarch (my father) was one of the most 
powerful and influential CEO's in the world. He was brave, smart, fair, decent 
and yet no push over. I grew up around this. I know that no matter how tough 
and how big you think you are you have to combine it with a balance that 
includes empathy, heart, wisdom and depth and to understand and acknowledge 
your own fallibility and weaknesses. In other words, you have to act like a 
human being. It is only then that you command true respect instead of 
generating rancor, resistance and resentment by others who you need to "deal" 
with.



  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on 
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright 
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is 
perceived as a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yeah, Obama was a little known state senator a couple of years and a US Senator 
a couple. He dipped his toe in the political waters. Never accomplished 
anything as a Senator either.Yes, he got elected making speeches saying what 
everyone wanted to hear without specifics. Didn't fool me though. I think there 
were a couple of things in his favor. First, he was as Joe Biden put it, a 
clean cut  articulate black guy that didn't sound black. He was the perfect guy 
to clear the conscience  of white guilt. "I voted for the first black 
President, that proves I'm not a racist!" Second, He was the perfect guy to 
clear our conscience with the Arab middle-east after Iraq, a guy named Barrack 
Hussein Obama. "They'll see that we really aren't Islamophobes!" 
 Obama proclaimed that he was the One that we've all been waiting for. Then he 
went on his apology tour. Sure was a lot of guilt being accounted for.Would 
Trump fool everyone? Hell, I don't know. He's not my guy but I understand why 
people are supporting him.


  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
 You're forgetting that Obama was a Senator.  Probably not long enough 
though to have really good experience.  He got elected making speeches that had 
what people want to hear.  Trump is doing that too with his speeches.  Gonna be 
fooled again?
 
 On 01/22/2016 10:03 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
  
     Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.  All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on 
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright 
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for  foreign students.
  Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A 
lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians. Yeah, Trump is 
perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times 
harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a 
gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.
 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
  
    I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications  to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office  and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 
  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
 
   Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 
  
  I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party  and I also 
think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered. 
  Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or  something more 
specific?
   
 
 
   From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
  
    It really is a dilemma isn't  it. Trump is not a true conservative  
but a populist.  Trump is attracting people from  all over the place. Many 
undecideds, which is what Republicans  have been after for years. Yet,  they 
don't trust the guy  with his *New York* values which are  ultra liberal. He is 
to the  left of most establishment Republicans  but to the right of any 
Democrat, which is why I think  moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to 
find him a bit more  acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that  blows the mind of 
 establishment Republicans. Cruz just  won't play ball with his  *superiors* 
and that really pisses  them off! As long as the race is  between the two, the  
Republican establishment will  eventually line up behind Trump whether they 
like him or not because  they hate Cruz.
   
 
 

 
   From: "emptybill@... [F

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Republicans weren't allowed in the room when Obamacare was written or 
negotiated. They weren't even allowed to read it!

 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also 
served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a 
presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he 
wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is 
necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said 
he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of 
person required to run a cabinet office. 

I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have 
received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to 
negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the 
extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at 
all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared 
to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have 
forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that 
negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on 
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright 
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is 
perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times 
harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a 
gun"?
However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.
  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?



  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.





   From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trum

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I was shocked and appalled to see Sarah P. introducing The Donald, though I 
figured he was just exploiting what little appeal she has, like any businessman 
would. Now to read that he would give her a cabinet position really betrays his 
absolute cluelessness wrt national politics. They should go off together and 
build some resorts or something.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also 
served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a 
presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he 
wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is 
necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said 
he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of 
person required to run a cabinet office. 

I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have 
received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to 
negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the 
extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at 
all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared 
to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have 
forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that 
negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on 
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright 
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is 
perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times 
harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a 
gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.
  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?



  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.





   From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

You're forgetting that Obama was a Senator.  Probably not long enough 
though to have really good experience.  He got elected making speeches 
that had what people want to hear.  Trump is doing that too with his 
speeches.  Gonna be fooled again?


On 01/22/2016 10:03 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as 
much qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has 
management, executive and negotiating skills and built his own 
multi-billion dollar *empire*.
All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based 
on affirmative action based. How does an American student get a 
Fulbright Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for 
foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a 
plus. A lot of people are tired of being promised one thing and then 
those promises abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he 
counters ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a 
knife to a fight, we bring a gun"?
However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate 
anything. It's always my way or they high way.
If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's 
attracting a coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely 
get. There are a lot of independents that are attracted to him.


*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political 
office. He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a 
dangerous person to be in that position of power. I do not believe he 
has a chance of being elected.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful.

I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I 
also think Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.


Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or 
something more specific?





*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but 
a populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many 
undecideds, which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, 
they don't trust the guy with his *New York* values which are ultra 
liberal. He is to the left of most establishment Republicans but to 
the right of any Democrat, which is why I think moderate(liberal) 
Republicans are starting to find him a bit more acceptable. Ether him 
or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment Republicans. Cruz 
just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really pisses them 
off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like 
him or not because they hate Cruz.







*From:* "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[feste37]

I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also 
served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a 
presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he 
wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is 
necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said 
he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of 
person required to run a cabinet office. 

I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have 
received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to 
negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the 
extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at 
all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared 
to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have 
forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that 
negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservati

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

"...it is the Republicans who have forgotten that politics is the art of the 
possible -- they think that negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal." 

 Definitely. They have painted themselves into a corner by upping their 
rhetoric to an unrealistic level, and now the only response they have is a 
negative one. Having been unsuccessful at thwarting Obama, the party is split 
between those who seek any kind of compromise, and those who think they are not 
yet radical enough, to meet the voice of the people. And they certainly can't 
claim rights to fiscal conservatism, after the last performance by G.W. Bush, 
now echoed in his brother's (John Ellis Bush - call me 'Jeb'...) absolute lack 
of traction towards the nomination.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also 
served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a 
presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he 
wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is 
necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said 
he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of 
person required to run a cabinet office. 

I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have 
received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to 
negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the 
extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at 
all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared 
to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have 
forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that 
negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ummm Ollie, I think Trump has said that he would give her a *high position* in 
his administration. I don't think we have a federal Dog Catcher General but IRS 
Commissioner would be nice payback.

 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    I was shocked and appalled to see Sarah P. introducing The Donald, though I 
figured he was just exploiting what little appeal she has, like any businessman 
would. Now to read that he would give her a cabinet position really betrays his 
absolute cluelessness wrt national politics. They should go off together and 
build some resorts or something. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also 
served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a 
presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he 
wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is 
necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said 
he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of 
person required to run a cabinet office. 

I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have 
received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to 
negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the 
extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at 
all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared 
to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have 
forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that 
negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*. All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. 
Whatever his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on 
affirmative action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright 
Scholarship? I've always heard those are reserved for foreign students.
Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.Yeah, Trump is 
perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters ten times 
harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a 
gun"?
However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.
  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?



  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

   

   From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Many politicians have massive egos always available for stroking, so Trump 
doesn't stand out for me in that way. But he is completely unqualified, and his 
simplistic business mindset would be a disaster. He has no vision for the 
country. Yes, he will shoot himself in the foot, reloading several times, 
should he become the nominee. Unlike his cable TV shows and casinos, people 
tend to take the Presidency a little bit more seriously.  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 
 

 I agree on all counts. This is a person who is seriously deranged, he is a 
raving narcissist and exists only to have his ego stroked, to have his ravenous 
appetite for attention sated. His universe consists of him and anything that 
can serve his terrible personal needs. This does not make for a good leader 
because he lacks compassion, understanding as well as an ability to self 
reflect with regard to the picture that must involve everyone else on the 
planet. Egocentricity is not, I repeat NOT, something that has a place in the 
leader of a country. While there might be millions who do not understand this 
there are more millions that do and will illustrate this in their vote for 
another candidate on election day.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
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[FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 
 

 I agree on all counts. This is a person who is seriously deranged, he is a 
raving narcissist and exists only to have his ego stroked, to have his ravenous 
appetite for attention sated. His universe consists of him and anything that 
can serve his terrible personal needs. This does not make for a good leader 
because he lacks compassion, understanding as well as an ability to self 
reflect with regard to the picture that must involve everyone else on the 
planet. Egocentricity is not, I repeat NOT, something that has a place in the 
leader of a country. While there might be millions who do not understand this 
there are more millions that do and will illustrate this in their vote for 
another candidate on election day.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

   

   From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
  
    Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[feste37]

I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications 
to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited 
by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that 
position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Cruz is your quintessential Tea Party Republican. 

 

  From: "Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
   
    Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
  
    It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

   

   From: "emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
  
    Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.

 

 I think you are dreaming if you thing Trump is some great negotiator. It is a 
different matter dealing with other politicians, other charged circumstances 
with regard to hostile countries or crazy dictators. You don't start telling 
them what they're going to do and the blowback from stepping on some of these 
people's toes is far bigger than losing a contract or some business deal going 
sideways. Pissing off the wrong people because you're too narcissistic or too 
delusional to realize you aren't the Big Man of Campus can result in actual 
war, not just lost revenue. He may have been able to snowplow his way around 
the business world but he has no idea about the ramifications were he to try 
his strong arming in the political world as President.  Trump is a menace.

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

 I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also 
served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a 
presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he 
wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is 
necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said 
he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of 
person required to run a cabinet office. 

I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have 
received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to 
negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the 
extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at 
all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared 
to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have 
forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that 
negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. 
 

 Nice post. The only place where I think you made a wee understatement was 
"Sarah is simply not the caliber of person required to run a cabinet office". I 
wouldn't let her open a door for me let alone run a cabinet office.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


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