Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
There are some who might suggest that Judy realizing her fantasy of hooking up with Robin in Toronto would *BE* JR's predicted horrible accident. :-) :-) :-) From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness Is it possible, she may have found true love in Toronto? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Oh wow. That makes me happy. I sent her a query via the only email address I have and never got a response. If she responds further, please say hi. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Why? Its enough for me to know your prediction/projection of her demise/ and or serious injury was dead wrong. Calm down gentlemen. I simply asked Judy to respond in some small way to whether she was okay and if she needed something from me as we here at FFL hadn't heard from her for a while. This was over two months ago. She responded with two words, Don't worry. That is enough for me. If she needed my assistance in some way she would have asked for it. I am not sure her choice to stop posting here should be a platform for whether jyotish is valid or not. We can only deduce a couple of things from this small reply I got and those are: 1) she appears to be alive 2) she can still type. For whatever reason she has taken a powder and good for her.
[FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
I agree, Buck, it was an amazing meeting last night. I thought the moderator
did an incredible job of guiding the huge group so that everyone got to share a
lot, and many wonderful, practical ideas came out. At one point I felt so much
gratitude to be a part of this community that is growing in spite of so many
inner and outer challenges.
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:29 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire thegusto!”
No,we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts thatmake:
Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity andtone, to apostasy,
thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts Ifeel Ann through
reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her
better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading theLenz
book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I alwaysread the Turq and
feel he has a valid perspective from having 'beenthere' at a time, by his
contrast with spiritual experience likeFleet's, and now I feel I have an even
better understanding of him asa critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread
on FFL. Context oftenis everything.
Thatis something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, thatit
often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part ofthat process
when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtueof her mind about things
and by life experience as context aboutthings here. Some here have been pricks
and Ann may be prickly towards people attimes. Rick seems to welcome almost
everyone contributing to therelated topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for
that. Publicforum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny.
Therewas an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield
whereeverything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up
apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the
organizationbeing beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the
calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. Thereis a lot of change
going on inside right now by virtue of theattention of public forum. Turq in
his way has been part of that foryears by force of his experience, personality
and writing. I wouldmiss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely
embarrassed off ofthis forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way
theyhounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and
the moderators should have stopped that before the end. Iwould hope we could
all be kinder with one another in process. JaiGuru Dev, -Buckin the Dome
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Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
On 10/22/2014 9:01 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. /This is a case in point. Never pass up a tragedy if you think it will help you win a religious debate. Thanks, Michael, for making Buck's case so clear. You are the gift that keeps on giving./ *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
MJ, I did a prashna chart about Judy's whereabouts. I don't have her birth chart. However, Ann claims that she heard from the horses mouth that Judy is okay. We should get more clarification about this from Ann as to why Judy left. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Judy posted her birth data on a.m.t years ago. In fact I think it was discussed in one of Chakrapani's sessions here in the Bay Area back in the late 1990s. On 10/22/2014 12:45 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: MJ, I did a prashna chart about Judy's whereabouts. I don't have her birth chart. However, Ann claims that she heard from the horses mouth that Judy is okay. We should get more clarification about this from Ann as to why Judy left. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. *From:* dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
What did Chakrapani say about her? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Judy posted her birth data on a.m.t years ago. In fact I think it was discussed in one of Chakrapani's sessions here in the Bay Area back in the late 1990s. On 10/22/2014 12:45 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: MJ, I did a prashna chart about Judy's whereabouts. I don't have her birth chart. However, Ann claims that she heard from the horses mouth that Judy is okay. We should get more clarification about this from Ann as to why Judy left. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Why? Its enough for me to know your prediction/projection of her demise/ and or serious injury was dead wrong. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness MJ, I did a prashna chart about Judy's whereabouts. I don't have her birth chart. However, Ann claims that she heard from the horses mouth that Judy is okay. We should get more clarification about this from Ann as to why Judy left. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Why? Its enough for me to know your prediction/projection of her demise/ and or serious injury was dead wrong. Calm down gentlemen. I simply asked Judy to respond in some small way to whether she was okay and if she needed something from me as we here at FFL hadn't heard from her for a while. This was over two months ago. She responded with two words, Don't worry. That is enough for me. If she needed my assistance in some way she would have asked for it. I am not sure her choice to stop posting here should be a platform for whether jyotish is valid or not. We can only deduce a couple of things from this small reply I got and those are: 1) she appears to be alive 2) she can still type. For whatever reason she has taken a powder and good for her.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness
Is it possible, she may have found true love in Toronto? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You forget, JR claimed that according to Judy's jyotish she had met with some horrible accident. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness ? “..the role of principle Barry hater - and you have to admire the gusto!” No, we all rate posts as we may read them on spectrum; from posts that make: Observations, to suggestions, to criticism, by negativity and tone, to apostasy, thence to active anger and hating. In reading these posts I feel Ann through reading the individual postings here simply lost some faith more in Turq by her better understanding of his writing and approach here after reading the Lenz book that was posted here. It is that simple also. I always read the Turq and feel he has a valid perspective from having 'been there' at a time, by his contrast with spiritual experience like Fleet's, and now I feel I have an even better understanding of him as a critic from this recent Freddy Lenz/Rama thread on FFL. Context often is everything. That is something that is particularly good about the writing on FFL, that it often can render down what is truth. Judy was very much part of that process when she was here. Ann also helps with that by virtue of her mind about things and by life experience as context about things here. Some here have been pricks and Ann may be prickly towards people at times. Rick seems to welcome almost everyone contributing to the related topics of FairfieldLife. I thank Rick for that. Public forum is often one of the best checks against theocratic tyranny. There was an amazing open meeting last night in meditating Fairfield where everything was on the table in front of a bunch of the higher-up apparatchiks of the new TM movement. For upward pressures on the organization being beyond theocratic control, FFL has long been a part of the calculus of the meditating Fairfield communal culture. There is a lot of change going on inside right now by virtue of the attention of public forum. Turq in his way has been part of that for years by force of his experience, personality and writing. I would miss him if he gets entirely hounded or completely embarrassed off of this forum. In the same way I feel it was really mean the way they hounded Judy personally off this list and out of this community. Rick and the moderators should have stopped that before the end. I would hope we could all be kinder with one another in process. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome
