stop kicking go & declare bankruptcy & then solve the pension problems




In a message dated 08/18/15 15:36:32 Eastern Daylight Time, 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com writes:



Pensions were never meant to keep paying the salary you received when working. 
They were made to make your retirement more comfortable than just having Social 
Security.  Same was true in selling the idea of 401Ks and we know how well that 
worked out.  Unless you are a money hound and at least an amateur stockbroker 
these often don't work out well at all.

I've read some posts on a board from folks getting these pensions and admitting 
that though they're nice to get weren't really all that necessary.

On 08/18/2015 12:03 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
Not so sure the cities *offer* these unsustainable pensions as much as the 
unions demand them. Cities are stuck kicking the can down the road for some 
other mayor to fix.





From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Bring on a Ryan Budget



  
City problems are due to really incompetent people running them be they 
Republican or Democrat.  They've done stupid things like offer unsustainable 
pension plans to attract new employees.  I still think those were sold to them 
because Wall Street wanted to gamble with that money.  We've allowed these 
people to run things because the public is generally apathetic and a lot of 
city elections are confusing and corrupt.

On 08/17/2015 04:51 PM, William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:




  
Reagan was NOT a city mayor but was state & federal & HIS time lifted my boat & 
still in part does 4 many thanks to the tax changes & more !4 


 It LIFT not like bu the did enjoy boating I note, With respect & a smile 
cities are stil in it many close to bankruptcy !
  I as is the Fed affecting our great G.G.G  &Great grand children, & the un 
born to my perhaps our regret Bring on the Ryan Budget soon!



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Reagan didn't life all boats either and neither did the Bushes so it's not just 
the Democrats fault. 

On 08/17/2015 06:49 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: 

  
Misery loves company. 





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-----Original Message----- 
From: Lawrence Smith <lawrencesmi...@frontier.com> 
Sent: Sun, Aug 16, 2015 9:18 pm 


10 Poorest Cities in America (How did it happen?)
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2% 

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all 
have in common? 
Detroit, MI   - (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican  
mayor since 1961 
Buffalo, NY  - (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954 
Cincinnati, OH - (3rd) not since 1984 
Cleveland, OH - (4th) not since 1989 
Miami, FL    - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor 
St. Louis, MO - (6th) not since 1949 
El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor 
Milwaukee, WI - (8th) not since 1908 
Philadelphia, PA - (9th) not since 1952 
Newark, NJ - (10th) not since 1907 
Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over 
and over again and expecting different results.' 

It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats....... Yet they are still POOR. 


You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. 
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. 
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. 
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. 
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. 
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and 
independence. 
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and 
should do for themselves. 

        Abraham Lincoln 
















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