Don't get so upset sir Barry.
Remember, every 28 days the unfertilised egg is eliminated and a New egg
is formed.
Technicaly speaking Nature performs an "abortion" every 28 days.
Atleast those eggs could be used for stem cell research.
TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:05:31 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] DS responds to mainstream20016 Re: Abortion
Oh, goodie. :-)
It's not every morning that I get a chance to
start my day off with a good rant, but here I
have two idiots offering me an opportunity to
do so, on a silver platter.
I simply cannot resist.
[ the rest of mainstream's post, so carefully
snipped by Judy, hereby reinserted ]
[ my response to mainstream ]
Ok, you guys started this. Now sit back and
take what's comin' to ya.
There is NOT ONE WORD in my original post in
which I suggested that mainstream should not
express his opinion on this subject. I did NOT
tell him that he had "nothing to say" ON THE
SUBJECT. I told him he had nothing to say about
the *decision* any woman makes on this subject.
And he doesn't.
Mainstream, whether he believes it or not, really
IS (at heart) one of those guys who *would* stand
in the doorway of a doctor's office (which he
would demonize by calling it an "abortion clinic")
and try to stop some woman from having an abortion.
But he doesn't have the balls to do that.
So instead he tries to make the woman feel GUILTY
about her decision. That's the form of punishment
he metes out for her type of "sin."
And when I stood up for the women and pointed out
that he was trying to characterize them unfairly,
he decided to try to mete out some of the same
punishment to me.
He made up a story in his head (which says a great
deal more about him than about me) that I was the
father of these poor, aborted fetuses, and that I
was there at the women's side, urging them to kill
these poor human beings without a care.
I NEVER EVEN HAD SEX WITH ANY OF THESE
WOMEN. THEY WERE MY FRIENDS.
I can see how mainstream might have a problem with
this concept. For him it must be difficult to imagine
a man just being friends with a woman and trying to
help her through a tough time. He'd much rather try
to make her feel bad -- and GUILTY -- about having
come to a decision about what to do with an unplanned
and unwanted pregnancy. In his mind, that makes him
some kind of moral giant, a man protecting the poor,
helpless fetuses of the world against those callous
women who would murder them.
To me it just makes him JUST ANOTHER GUY, trying
to impose his will on women whose will and whose
rights he doesn't understand and doesn't respect.
And when another guy comes along and busts him for
being such a male chauvinist pig, he lashes out and
calls me a liar, and makes up a whole story that some-
how implicates me in the "murder," and allows him to
try to make ME feel guilty, too.
Didn't work.
All it did was inspire in me an enormous sense of pity
for someone this insane, whose fanaticism has blinded
him to the fact that what he's trying to do by expres-
sing his opinion on a subject that doesn't concern him
personally is make the women whom it *does* concern
feel GUILTY about their decisions.
I'm sorry, but pity is *all* I can feel for him. I did
NOT say that he should speak about this subject -- he
imagined that, and so did Judy (in his case because he's
blinded by hatred for those he considers murderers, and
he wanted to consider me an "accomplice" ; in her case
because she's just blinded by hatred, period), and they
made up stuff in my post THAT WASN'T THERE, and then
turned it into an excuse to dump on me.
Mainstream has nothing to say about whether a woman has
an abortion. Even if he succeeded in getting laws passed
to make it illegal he'd have nothing to say about it.
He just hated being reminded of his powerlessness, and
wanted to consider himself a big, powerful, moral MAN
whose word had some authority over these women he con-
siders murderers. Me, I was even worse -- a guy calling
him on being an oppressive guy -- and so he had to invent
some way that he could call me a murderer and try to make
me feel GUILTY, too. That was his INTENT.
It failed. I don't feel a gram of guilt. All I feel --
for him -- is pity.
He is free to rail all he wants on this subject; I never
suggested otherwise. All I did was tell him WHY he was
really doing it -- to try to impose his will on women --
and that I thought it was pretty small of him. His
response renders him even smaller in my opinion.
As for Judy, well, I think everyone here knows that the
only reason SHE chimed in was that it was just one more
excuse to DUMP ON BARRY. She's a bitter old woman who
has nothing going on in her life *except* trying to make
other people feel bad about themselves. So in a very real
sense she and mainstream are "intent brothers."
But Judy is an EDITOR. She should *know* that what she
made up about my post is a lie.
