Maharishi's Weekly Press Conference Wed 8 March 2006 Including questions from David Jones, Daily Mail reporter England
David JONES, Daily Mail: "..Could you explain on what basis you have chosen the 24 countries that you are focussing on ? What basis these countries, these particular countries have been chosen? Would you address that for me please ? [Maharishi couldn't hear the Question. so John Hagelin repeated the question] MAHARISHI: They contrast with England in terms of being more innocent and positive countries, as against very damaging and dangerous country of England. England is a destroyer of the world very openly. And these countries are more simple and they are not destroyers of the world. So they have been adopted for their simplicity. And England ? I withdrew my activities from England because when the scientific researches indicate Transcendental Meditation makes the people healthy, wealthy and wise I don't want to make that country which is a destroyer of the world to be healthy wealthy and wise ! Otherwise I'll be the promoter of a bigger, of a bigger destruction to the world. That is the reason some time back I decided just close the doors. I don't want to .. to give better health . and better, better prosperity and wisdom to a country who's beginning to end - the whole policy is to destroy, destroy, destroy. And it's not [reached?] the destruction level, then at least divide and rule. Divide and rule is the British policy. It's very criminal. Innocent people [and you divide this ] this man, this man, this man. So the entire British disposition is to destroy the unity of every nation, and if possible - destroy the country, destroy the country. Sell arms, sell arms. At least destroy the country. That is why I didn't like to think of that country. And didn't like to give life to the country. Although I'll be, I'll be supporting the country to destroy [?? ]. That is the reason. My principles are very simple and very clear. David JONES: Thanks for that answer. As an Englishman, it makes me feel rather uncomfortable but I suppose it's not personal - I sincerely hope it's not. MAHARISHI: Could you speak, could you speak a little slower? David JONES: I'm sorry Maharishi. MAHARISHI: You could speak with, you could speak with slow speed so that your voice I could hear directly? Rather than speaking fast. Let me hear you slowly, slowly so I'll be able to answer every aspect of your talk. David JONES: Are you able to hear me Maharishi ? MAHARISHI: When you speak slowly, with less speed, then I can catch you. David JONES: I am speaking slowly now. MAHARISHI: Right. This is all right. David JONES: Thank you for that answer. As I was saying, I hope it was not a personal thing because as an Englishman it makes me feel rather uncomfortable, but I'm asking you, how then the United Kingdom differs in your view from the United States which many see as an equally warmongering arms promulgating nation as the United Kingdom. Why do you separate between the two ? MAHARISHI: Population of US is bigger. So bigger population I could have a hope from one corner, from the other corner, from the other corner. England is a smaller country, so I can't divide this smaller country into little little corners and have my approach. It's a bigger population in US which leaves some hope in me about US. And even since I stopped my activities England Dr Hagelin tells me so much of US press is raising a voice this way, and this way, and this way, and this way. So there is a bigger population. I have a hope to revive it. That's why I didn't reject it. Otherwise from this level it needed rejection. But I have to follow up. As I have to, I have to manage myself with some hope of the country. That is the reason. David JONES: Some people, some people might suggest that it would be better to try to affect change from within, and taking your own thesis if I may call it that, which is it needs a very few people to affect a very big change, I'm sure that you would find within the United Kingdom there are more than sufficient people who are opposed to the policies of the government of the day, who would be willing to support you and your aims if only you would, you know if only you would return to the United Kingdom and give them that chance to do so. But of course, without your presence there and without your support they feel cut off, and they feel that you have for want of a better phrase, sort of abandoned them there, and that they are no longer part of your Movement. Could you respond to that ? MAHARISHI: I have abandoned them to, to wake up to my Knowledge, because I don't' know what they were thinking of this .. But every country in the world, no government has adopted my procedure to become free, and to become integrated and all that. This is because it is the national consciousness that is the motivating power of a government. That is why I have left every government. I am not proposing to any government. I'm going to establish the Yogic Flyers in the groups of some people, groups of some people. All that I can afford. I see whatever response is there, whatever response is there, that it's like a barren field. Wherever I feel there is some fertility I sow the seed, sow the seed, sow the seed create the crop. Like that the 12 countries in the world within about 6 months, because that is the time taken for the demonstration of the minds functioning on the transcendental level of consciousness. There the mind functions. It's just the, the, the experience that makes the mind function on the transcendental field. And from there the group creates coherence effect emerging and spreading throughout national consciousness. And these countries, so all the countries in Europe and all, this will help silently to promote sense of positivity, sense of integration, sense of harmony, all over. And England's' national consciousness will not be an exception to it. But it has to be from outside, outside. And today's fighting England will become a supportive England. Will begin to be functioning according to the influence of Total Natural Law. The Unified Field. The Unified Field. And its good that if there are scientists in England, then they will soon hear Dr Hagelin and follow him. And following him they'll be following the absolute authentic procedures for creating integrated national consciousness and then the integrated national consciousness of England will amend all the ways of the government as will happen in every country, every country. It will happen in China, India, Russia, in all the countries, small or big. It's the world consciousness that has to be purified, and this is how it will be purified. A few groups here, a few groups here, a few groups here, a few groups here. That will be like that? That will be all right? David JONES: Yes. Thank you. Could you explain exactly what it is that you object to about English, about England's policies, world policies ? Is it specifically arms dealing, or is it the war with Iraq ? Or, or, what ? [Maharishi asks Dr Hagelin to clarify, and so Doctor Hagelin paraphrases the question] MAHARISHI: I don't have to tell you. The whole destructive policies of the British government, and the whole policy 'divide and rule'. All the innocent countries. All the innocent countries. Each country is fighting with each other. This party, this party, this party, this party, this party, this party, this party . and all this in the name of? freedom. So England is giving freedom to all those countries. Destroying the integrity of every nation creating different different parties, different different parties, different. This destructive nature of British government can only be, can only be, can only be improved by improving the whole world consciousness. There is no way out. David JONES: Would a change of Government encourage you to, to return to England ? Supposing Mr Blair was no longer the Prime Minister and he was voted out, would that . MAHARISHI: No, no not, not Blair or Lair or whatever. It's not the individual, absolutely it's not the individual. It is the national consciousness. It's not the individual. Individual has no meaning. Individual is only a football of national consciousness. I don't give any importance to any individual. Individual may be this or that, or this or that, or this or that. [It is the] collective consciousness of the nation, which is on the basis of the world consciousness of all countries. That is to be improved and I'm trying to improve, taking a few countries, taking a few countries. And there'll be a rise in coherence in those countries, and from there in the neighbouring country, in the neighbouring continent, in the neighbouring - the whole world, like that like that, like that. My Movement is gone from individuals to the groups. Groups to the nations. It has gone to the nations. And it has gone to individual concepts of administration, to cosmic concepts of administration. To the collective concepts of administration, and that is clearly [ ?? ] in the unified wholeness of the concept of administration of the universe. Theme is very clear. I think you are very wise, and you are very fortunate man of England who is thinking of England. Who is thinking of the world. But I know you are very cautious. You have come to me when you have seen so much of world press is writing about Maharishi. Let me see, let me know what it is, what it is ? You are cautious for your individual reputation. Let me tell you frankly your own inner feelings. You have come to write something about Maharishi when the world has written so much about it, so that you are not behind it. So in your response to my message, your individual is more important. But whatever it is, [I believe] you have come motivated by the world press. Your response is from the world press response. That will be all right? I am telling you plainly because you have come to me face to face. You are a part of me now when you're talking to me. I take you to be a part and parcel. So I am telling you that your motivation is more for yourself personally than for your country, than for the world. Now, as a good sensible responsible journalist of the world you have come out to see - [bring ?] the message to the people. David JONES: Yes. It seems somewhat of a shame Maharishi, that you feel this way towards England because England feels so warm I think towards you. You of course spent a lot of time there and I wonder how you feel towards the country generally? I mean you, you enjoyed, you enjoyed your time there I think in the sixties, and again, you know and [ ?? ]. I just wondered how you, how you feel towards England, towards the country, if you have any warmth towards the country if you do have warmth for individual countries. MAHARISHI: I remember when I went from America to England, and I gave the first conference in Albert Hall. I remember that, and that I was full of hope. I was full of hope when I rang for the first time the bell of Transcendental Consciousness in that great Albert Hall. And sequentially so many meetings, so many meetings. And so many years I have been there, and so many years. I've seen so many people and so many initiators and so many . But at the end I thought to give a lesson to the naughty child. It's like the parent feeds the children, gives all good things and nice things. But if the child is naughty constantly, constantly give him a few lessons of a different kind. But the [same] affection of parental protection for the child. That is my attitude towards England now. David JONES: From that, may we infer that one day you might be back? MAHARISHI: Uh? What is it? David JONES: From that, may we infer that one day you may return there and cuddle the naughty child again? Give the naughty child a second chance perhaps? And the er, er, adopt a different set of .. Adopt a different type of discipline [??] back? MAHARISHI: my response will be on the basis of the response of the child. If the child comes back 'Oh I did wrong' 'i say fine, don't worry about it, forget the past. Go ahead.' Always that will be, that is the parental role of the parent. Today a parent anger on the child has underneath a great affection for the child. That is the nature of behaviour that's all. The nature of behaviour. John HAGELIN: I have a question from an education writer in Massachusetts who has heard Maharishi speak many times. It's a pretty advanced question. It's on the experience of Totality. Maharishi has said that only the experience of Totality will bring complete fulfilment to the life of a human being. Are there degrees of the experience of Totality? I ask because, Maharishi also speaks about higher states of consciousness. Cosmic Consciousness, God consciousness, Unity Consciousness. At what point in the development of these higher states of consciousness is Totality realised? And complete fulfilment gained ? MAHARISHI: It's very simple to understand you know? Experience of Transcendental Consciousness requires total brain functioning. All parts of the brain becomes awake. And then the total brain functioning brings the experience of Transcendental Consciousness. And by repeating this experience, by repeating this experience means by making the total brain functioning, that is the physiology of the brain. The physiology of the brain through constant practice of total functioning becomes habituated for every thought to be promoted from total field of knowledge. And when every thought is promoted from total field of knowledge, then that thought is promoted from the Cosmic Intelligence. That we call from the Will of God. Omnipresent, Omniscient, Almighty Will of God, promotes a thought. And that thought pervades creation from point to infinity, pervades creation. That is supreme we would say capability. And supreme ability of the individual who is born with human brain physiology. Because with all the senses of action, senses of perception, eyes, ears, nose, and taste and all such, all these five senses of perception, full brain is not utilised. Full brain is utilised only in experiencing Transcendental Consciousness which is beyond the limitations of space and time, which is beyond the limitations of each of these five senses. And that experience of total brain functioning has to be repeated in order that the brain functioning becomes habituated to, to have a comprehension functioning. And this comprehension functioning of the brain will have cosmic potential of the individual human life to come to practicalities. That is why man was made in the image of God. This is a religious expression. Man is made in the image of God. And mans full creative potential is, when his total brain comes to function. When his total brain functions, then the total creative intelligence is in action. He's the same individual whose eyes could only see so much, whose ears could hear only so much, limited perceptions on the level of sensory perception. Transcendental perception uses the source of all these five levels of perception. Source of eyes, ears, touch and taste and all. The source of it. The one transcendental field of self-referral intelligence. Experience of that is the top class human experience, which is pure, we can say non-human in one sense. Pure non-human means pure Divine. Pure Light of God is within the capability of human brain functioning. When we say human brain functioning the heart also goes with it. Brain and heart they go all together, that is human potential. That is the individual human potential, which is Cosmic Divine Reality. It's just the change of words because for the total brain to function, always the total brain functioning should be given a practice. A practice, practice, practice. So we practice morning and evening, morning and evening, a few times morning and evening, few times morning and evening. Then we are habituating our brain physiology to function in a holistic manner, and this holistic functioning is Divine functioning. And you can explain your, your - explanations, that I have learned from Dr Hagelin in what mathematical terms, the unfoldment of the human potential is recorded, is understood in terms of modern sciences, physics, chemistry, biology, physiology, all those. They are all understanding of different levels of wholeness. Same way experience of different levels of wholeness through long practice, practice, practice, practice. There is a saying in English, 'practice makes a man perfect'. This is it. Practicing total functioning of the brain. That means experiencing Transcendental Field of intelligence, Self Referral, for short time, and for short time, and for short time, like that the brain physiology becomes habituated to function in that manner all the time, all the time. That is the Unity Consciousness. That is Unified field of Natural Law. Unified Field of Natural Law conceptually is indicated by these mathematical equitation's, but practically it's open to itself on its own transcendental value - experience. So beauty of Dr Hagelin is, that what he has understood theoretically on the intellectual level he has experienced it, on the practical level, and therefore his brain has started to function totally, totally, totally. So the scientist is absolutely convinced, and now he's going to change the world. Dr J HAGELIN: Thank you very much Maharishi. Mr David Jones has a further question ? David JONES: Yes. So from that Maharishi, I'm not, . I don't .. at the moment .. I'm not a Mediator, I don't practice TM, but if I did, would I experience, would I personally experience immediate long term, um short and long term benefits from, from taking up Transcendental Meditation, and you know, would you recommend it to me and that would be a lasting benefit, and it would start straight away would it? MAHARISHI: You will immediately become a better human being, a better, writer, a better reporter, a better leader of your world press. Immediately you will begin to feel that you are better and better in every field of your, of your exposure. That's all. David JONES: I . I hesitate to mention the Beatles word. I know you don't particularly like going back all those years, but British - English people of course associate you with, with that, with the Beatles, and with that period and they haven't themselves, they haven't enjoyed, like er, they haven't enjoyed always a a particularly good fate since, since their, since their encounter with Transcendental, Transcendental Meditation it's fair to say. I mean two of them of course are no longer with us. Can you explain perhaps why, why they didn't gain these benefits that we're talking about, that I would gain as a writer and as a reporter? MAHARISHI: What is your age? David JONES: 49. MAHARISHI: How much? David JONES: 49 sir. MAHARISHI: 49? David JONES: Yes. MAHARISHI: Then you are still not born in the world when I started The Movement. David JONES: I was born in 1956. MAHARISHI: So only . you came in the world much later. That will be the effect of your coming back in the world, that the world is going to be a better .. David JONES: I don't understand. Sorry. MAHARISHI: And it is surprising how, how you could not do to that. It's only lack of your parents, lack of your teachers, lack of your people who, who they don't introduce you when you are 15 years, 20 years. So you continued as other people, other boys continue. When you will taste it you, you know, you know that English phrase? Taste of pudding is in eating. Taste of Transcendental Consciousness is in experiencing. And you could keep on talking for hundreds of years. But until you have taken a dive into it, you'll not know what it is. It's in the, it's in the taste of pudding that the pudding lies otherwise the pudding doesn't have any meaning. So much of scientific researches. In all those 6,7 volumes of scientific research. For your own sake, for your own sake my dear friend, British journalist, for your own sake, you don't waste your life in writing. You, you use your life for something substantial, to Be. You don't think writing is only the [?? ] thing and this, and you've written article and all this, and the newspaper, so you are great. Don't think you're great [?based?] on the superficial values of public evaluation. Be substantially Be. Be substantially Be your own Reality. You are losing a great chance by thinking of Transcendental Meditation, how it will fulfil your, your profession and it [??] too superficial. You're giving too superficial value to your life. Life is much greater. Life is that which Dr Hagelin say - Unified Field. Man is the master of his own destiny. Don't be a football of situations and circumstances. Anything worldly like that like that. It's too superficial to base life on. David JONES: Does, does, Maharishi? does in your view, does celebrity have any place in modern society? Celebrity and fame? These things, do they have any importance? MAHARISHI: What is it? Dr Hagelin, what is it ? . .. Dr John HAGELIN Yes, David was following up on Maharishi's message - (JH repeats the question.) MAHARISHI: It has a place of waste of life in my evaluation. David JONES: But sir, you yourself are famous. MAHARISHI: Hmmm? David JONES: You yourself are famous. MAHARISHI: But that fame is nothing to do with me! Those who feel good they say yes I am good, I am good. But I don't become good by telling, by them telling me to be good! All that is a sup.. fame and all this is too superficial. Life is so grand, and so good, and so - enormously powerful then these little [flame ?]. If you write very good article for me, I say 'oh yes, [but ???] ' and all that. It's too superficial for me to think like that. This fame - [this] doesn't make anything. Life is more, more of a Substance. Fame is aerial. (laughs) It's a spacey aerial. Waves go in the air! So these are too superficial things for me. David JONES: One more question then on that subject, about, and it is about the Beatles. Do you regret, do you regret now having ever become involved with them, because then your movement became associated with celebrity, with you know, you know popular music and so on. Do you regret that period? MAHARISHI: FORGET ABOUT IT. If at all Beatles became substantial due to my [???]. I did not become [???] by association of the Beatles. These boys will be musicians - Beatles. It's a wrong, it's for the English press to make the Beatles so [? what is?] wherever, even after 50 years. Beatles make the Maharishi great. It's a waste of thought? It's [??] What these little singers boy, singer boys contact the field of Divine integrity. It was good enough that day. They followed. They had a good, what they call it, a teacher or a guide. But when he was no more they all scattered here and there and there. So he was the guide who made these four boys put together, and made Beatles. Then British press made wherever he may be after so many years? [?] Beatles. Maharishi Beatles, Maharishi Beatles. It's a waste of thought. David JONES: Hm. OK. John HAGELIN: Maharishi - there are two questions I'd like to try and squeeze in from the press, before we will soon have to close. One has to do with the nature of this scientific age, which Maharishi feels is a very strategic age, a strategic time to transform the world. It is, Maharishi often talks about how he is creating a bright new destiny in this scientific age, and that no one need suffer any more in this scientific age. My question is about the significance of the scientific age. Why is the scientific age more advantageous than perhaps some previous age? Hasn't the scientific age also brought mankind to the brink of disaster? What make the scientific age so ideal in Maharishi's mind? MAHARISHI: science provides a systematic sequential approach to reality. Science provides systematic approach to reality. Say supposing reality is heaven, for other people science could also provide a systematic reality of hell also! Systematically go in the other direction and go to hell! Here, the religion is a saviour of science, and science is a promoter of religion. Science is a promoter of a reliable religion. Leads mankind to peace, prosperity, happiness, Will of God. Will of God? the protector of everything and all that, all that all that, told about God. Like that, like that. So the whole thing, religion, religious text, scientific text, they all lead sequentially the individual to his cosmic potential which is Pure Divinity, the Light of God. So science is a reliable approach to Light of God, a reliable approach to Light of God. It's a reliable approach. Dr John HAGELIN: Thank you very much Maharishi. Here's another short but deep question I think. Maharishi what is the difference in the mechanics of a person who transcends to experience Pure Being, Pure Unmanifest Veda at the source of thought, and the process of a Rishi undergoes when he cognises Veda. When he sees and hears the hymns of the Veda? So I guess the question is what is the difference between transcending to experience pure being and cognising the Veda within that Reality of Being. MAHARISHI: When we say Veda in that, three values are involved. The Rishi, that means the seer, and the process of seeing and the object of sight. So seer, seeing and sight. All the three means Veda. Rishi, Devata, Chhand. All the three means the Veda, Total Knowledge. And cognition of the Veda means, when you see the Veda, hear the Veda, when you see the Veda, and what you see is this 'who is the seer? what is the seeing process? What is the sight which is the goal of seeing? ' So the seeing seer, seeing, sight, Rishi, Devata, Chhandas, these are the cognitions of the three aspects of the Veda, Rishi Devata, Chhandas. And when we say all the three, when we say all the three together Samhita. Samhita means Unified field, Unified Field of all the three. Rishi, and Devata, Chhandas. Three in togetherness, that is the Veda. That is the soul of everyone. That is the Atma of everyone, that is the Totality, that is Unity Consciousness, that is Brahm. Aham Brahm. I am Totality. I am Brahm, I am Brahm, I am Brahm. That is the Reality of, of man in the Light of God. That's why man has that authenticity. Man is the master of his own destiny. Because at the top level he is on the level of almighty, total liveliness of Natural Law. Cosmic Law. Divine Law. Pure Divinity. God. Unified Field. David JONES: Maharishi, thank you for that. When you, when you look at the world now, and you see, you see the division, the stark division that exists between the, the Islamic world, and the Christian world, do you, do you look at one side perhaps and say well I have more sympathy with that side or the other side? And also how do you, how do you see this great er, this conflict may be resolved through, through, through Transcendental Meditation? MAHARISHI: Through Transcendental Meditation is one thing on the level of experience. On the level of theory they will all come to Unified Field. Unified Field is a field which unifies all differences. And Christianity has a God, Islam has a God, and Buddhism has a God, and this one has a God, and this one has a God. Unified Field has all the Gods on one level. Unified level. So it is the scientific age that is going to eliminate the thorny edge of differences of all religions, not only all religions but all systems of politics, all systems of economy, all systems of differences everywhere. This is going to be the scientific approach to life. But now that the Unified Field has been discovered by Dr Hagelin and his colleagues in the world, when the top level has been known, young students life should not be wasted in test tube laboratories. Not in those days when science was developing then the test tube laboratory for students were all right. But now the students should be given direct experience of that Unified Field, and direct understanding of all these mathematical calculations emerging from zero. From the zero point motion, where all the Unified Field is a reality. From zero, from zero. What is not being taught in the schools is zero. The education or mathematics starts from 'one two three four five .' but zero . ? When we write a Vedic one, first we write the zero and strengthen the line to be one. So when we see a Vedic one, it has a zero in it, and one in it. When we write and the other one, say supposing English one, one stick there is no zero. What is missing? The source of one. The source of one is missing. In other .. this .unit of language, in other languages. But in the Vedic language, zero is there and one is there. In other language simple one is there. When one is there, one hangs without its source. And anything without its source will never satisfy completeness of knowledge. It's a very simple argument that I am giving. Just to say that it is the mathematics in all the different world which decides so many different values. Even the mathematics is without its real permanent basis. Now you see the mathematics. Where is mathematics? So we go to Vedic mathematics, we go to Vedic language, we go to Vedic expression, we go to Vedic silence. And then we have trained our brain physiology to function completely and then we are really fully developed individuals, fully developed human beings. We are expression of the Divine. We are the masters of our own destiny. Otherwise we are slaves of situations and circumstances. These are simple, plain words, [??] to the heart, but they are very soft. Dr Hagelin comment on them, and we'll like to close the talk today. Or call Dr Morris to explain to the world press. David JONES: Could I ask you one more question sir? Just one. One more question? Please? Could I ask you one more question? MAHARISHI: Yes yes yes all right. David JONES: Sorry, I'm having trouble with the microphone .. MAHARISHI: yes, yes .. David JONES: It might sound rather a morbid question, but I hope you'll take it in a cosmic spirit. MAHARISHI: What is it? David JONES: You're rather old now sir MAHARISHI: Could you speak, could you speak slower. I will understand you better to speak slowly. Will you speak slowly, not too fast. David JONES: The question is, you're getting older now, I don't know exact.. can you hear me? MAHARISHI: I am following you now slowly. David JONES: Yes. I don't know precisely what age you are but clearly you won't live for ever like any of us. What will happen to the TM Movement when you pass? When you pass on ? Have you got successors in mind? do you need a successor to, to, to be a figure head if you like of the Movement? MAHARISHI: No, no. David JONES: or how will it work? MAHARISHI: It doesn't work on the individual level. It works on the Cosmic level which is expressed in the individual. When I pass on, the body is to pass on, but Transcendental Meditation is not my creation. Transcendental Meditation has been throughout the ages since immemorial, unmanifest, self-referral, Unified Field is the Transcendental Meditation. People forget about it, someone comes to say it's there you, [it's there you .. ]. He passes away. This passing away is not of any importance. We don't give importance to the individual. We give importance to the Transcendental Reality which transcends the individual and establishes universal eternal oneness of Being. So a man speaks for it in these years, another man speaks of that in that year. So it's not the individual, it is the same reality that is eternal, is being spoken by those who like to enjoy speaking about it. I am not, I am not thinking of my life or death or this. I am thinking that Transcendental Meditation is now very properly come to bless the nations as a whole, to bless the unified value of all nations. That is time when all the people of the world are, all the intelligent I mean, they are hankering to find a solution. This gives a solution to them, that's all, that's all, that's all. All these organisation like United Nation, and all these governments of each country who like to do maximum for their people, when they find their fulfilment in the programme, the whole world will be [risen] to Divine level rather than being exposed to human level. Human level is a very unsatisfactory level, like that, like that. David JONES: Thank you very much. One more question or not? MAHARISHI: All right, all right. DAVID JONES: Where do you get your tremendous, where do you get your tremendous energy from? I Understand you only sleep about 2 hours a day, and, and for fifty years you've only slept 2 hours a day. MAHARISHI: Nobody knows - even those two hours are like what? (laughs) David JONES: Pardon sir? [VOICE IN BACKGROUND: he doesn't take 2 hours. David JONES: I see. [Fair enough then.] Time's nothing, is that what he means?] MAHARISHI: Nobody knows if I am sleeping even those two hours! People make their stories. So - but these, these are not significant in my case, because I am not living in terms of how much I sleep and how much I eat, and how much I wake up, and all . This is not my life. My life is that level where unmanifest prevails through all differences in manifestations. So that is all right. It's like the life of everyone like that, like that, like that. How one's asleep, and how one's awake and how much one eats and what one eats. Whether one eats sweet more, or pungent more, or salt more. Whatever means is a waste of life, waste of time. David JONES: Thank you very much indeed. MAHARISHI: Hmm? Dr John HAGELIN: Thank you very much Maharishi, that was a truly sweeping interview covering a huge range of subjects from the Divine to the extremely relative and Maharishi spoke in an extremely compassionate and parental way to the people of the United Kingdom, [??] through David JONES, today. Answering some very deep questions about the country and it's activities and its future. 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