Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 

On 12/9/2014 1:41 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
And why would they do that? 

>
Why did the U.S. participate in renditions? You're not making any sense. 
Renditions are used primarily to disrupt a cell and remove a terror 
suspect from the battlefield.

>
Could it be that major corporations and financial interests had a 
stake in keeping up the "endless war"? 

>
Everyone has a stake in winning the war, individuals as well as large 
corporation such as Google and Yahoo.

>
The torture probably wasn't to get any "info" as they already knew 
many of these groups were actually other PSYOP operations. 

>
According to lawyers for the CIA, there is a plausible denial. The CIA’s 
rendition program is nothing new and has been going on for decades. 
Torture  is a violation of article 18, section 2340A of the U.S. 
Criminal Code. If the prisoner died during such torture, a U.S. court 
could, in theory, sentence a CIA official to death.

>

It was to get their "jollies".

>
Do you have any evidence that U.S. CIA officers participated directly in 
any "torture"? If you do, please post it here so we can read it. 
According to the report, no CIA officers have been charged with any 
crimes. Correct me if I'm wrong about this.

>
America is becoming a fascist state that makes Nazi Germany pale by 
comparison.

>
Apparently you don't even know whose side you are on.

It is fiction that any CIA officers watched as rendition victims are 
tortured by foreign agents. It is also fiction that the CIA kept its 
rendition program and black sites a secret from close allies like the 
Europeans.


Source:

Stephen Grey. *Ghost Plane: The True Story of the CIA’s Rendition and 
Torture Program*. St. Martin's Press; 1st edition (October 17, 2006).

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 

On 12/9/2014 1:29 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
>

Same as the old boss ... won't get fooled again!  yeah, right.

>
*Five Facts and Five Fictions About CIA Rendition*
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/rendition701/updates/updates.html
>



*From:* salyavin808 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:05 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] New World Order

Meet the new boss:

CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective 
<http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released>




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<http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released> 




CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal an... 
<http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released> 

Report released by Senate after four-year, $40m investigation 
concludes CIA repeatedly lied about brutal techniques in years after 9/11


View on www.theguardian.com 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 



*From:* salyavin808 


CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective 


>
On 12/9/2014 1:23 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
>

*/The world responds, "Duh!"/*

>
So, I wonder what the Dutch police and Interpol will do with Raunchydog?

/"I think it’s a tempest in a teapot really to say: Well, Speaker Pelosi 
should have known all of this, she should have stopped this, she should 
have done this or done that. I don’t want to make an apology for 
anybody, but in 2002, it wasn’t 2006, 07, 08 or 09. It was right after 
9/11, and there were in fact discussions about a second wave of 
attacks."/ Diane Fienstein


http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-cia%E2%80%99s-greatest-fear-being-thrown-under-the-bus-by-11034

Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 

On 12/9/2014 1:05 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
>


Meet the new boss:


>
/"What the Democrats are doing is classic Alinskyism, posturing as the 
defenders of the American Way and hoping like hell that nobody remembers 
that rendition prisons began under the Clinton administration."/ - 
Michael Walsh


*About That Senate Report*
http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2014/12/09/cia-and-alinskys-rule-4/
>



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Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
And why would they do that?  Could it be that major corporations and 
financial interests had a stake in keeping up the "endless war"?  The 
torture probably wasn't to get any "info" as they already knew many of 
these groups were actually other PSYOP operations.  It was to get their 
"jollies".


America is becoming a fascist state that makes Nazi Germany pale by 
comparison.


On 12/09/2014 11:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


Meet the new boss:


CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective 






image 
 




CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal an... 
 

Report released by Senate after four-year, $40m investigation 
concludes CIA repeatedly lied about brutal techniques in years after 9/11


View on www.theguardian.com 
 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
Same as the old boss ... won't get fooled again!  yeah, right.
  From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] New World Order
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
From: salyavin808 

CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective

The world responds, "Duh!"

[FairfieldLife] New World Order

2014-12-09 Thread salyavin808 
Meet the new boss:
 

 CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal and ineffective 
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released

 
 
 http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released 
 
 CIA torture report brands post-9/11 program as brutal an... 
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-report-released 
Report released by Senate after four-year, $40m investigation concludes CIA 
repeatedly lied about brutal techniques in years after 9/11
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Sutphen 

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 5/17/05 6:23 AM, Peter Sutphen at
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> > What the hell is "the Bell of Eureka"? This is
> insane.
> > What a humiliation! The whole thing is going to
> fail
> > because some moron is using some misplaced tantric
> > double-talk phrase that will confuse the great
> peace
> > loving dictators of the world. My God! what a
> disastor
> > in the making! Ring my bell of Eureka!
> > -Peter
> 
> It's an invincibility bell you dolt. I was there
> when we gave one to
> Ferdinand Marcos while 400 Governors shouted "Hail
> President Marcos,
> Invincibility to President Marcos" repeatedly in
> unison. You don't know the
> first thing about coddling a dictator.

Apparently not! Ah the madness! Will it ever end?
Probably not until there's not an iota of attachment
or resistence to anything. Then MMY will say, "Thank
God, I'm done!" and drop the body.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread Rick Archer 
on 5/17/05 6:23 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> What the hell is "the Bell of Eureka"? This is insane.
> What a humiliation! The whole thing is going to fail
> because some moron is using some misplaced tantric
> double-talk phrase that will confuse the great peace
> loving dictators of the world. My God! what a disastor
> in the making! Ring my bell of Eureka!
> -Peter

It's an invincibility bell you dolt. I was there when we gave one to
Ferdinand Marcos while 400 Governors shouted "Hail President Marcos,
Invincibility to President Marcos" repeatedly in unison. You don't know the
first thing about coddling a dictator.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread Peter Sutphen 
What the hell is "the Bell of Eureka"? This is insane.
What a humiliation! The whole thing is going to fail
because some moron is using some misplaced tantric
double-talk phrase that will confuse the great peace
loving dictators of the world. My God! what a disastor
in the making! Ring my bell of Eureka!
-Peter

--- claudiouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Please make sure you read his whacked letter
> (below) to dictators, 
> >ah here it is for the newcommers to this group. I
> am not making this 
> >up.:
> 
> An incredible letter, when was this sent out? It's
> no wonder MMY 
> completely misread the significance of Blaire's
> re-election!! 
> Elementary school children have more of a grasp of
> the political 
> realities in the world than this letter
> demonstrates. What is the 
> point of MMY bothering to bombard intelligent,
> educated people in 
> positions of responsibility with this kind of
> nonsense - no wonder 
> they can't take it seriously. And, obviously
> frustrated after 50 
> fruitless years of such ineffective communication
> with his target 
> audience, he's now created a fantasy world order of
> his own with toy 
> money and playmates dressed up in robes and crowns..
> 
> Had MMY's Movement been active before WW2 no doubt
> he WOULD have been 
> praising Hitler's "invincibility" in defying the
> hegemony of the 
> British and their "divide and rule" democracies and
> supported his 
> enlightened ideals of establishing a "pure" race
> according to Natural 
> Law. He'd applaud the skillful use of propaganda -
> he's ended up 
> copying chunks of it himself. Hitler too spent much
> of his time 
> daydreaming about building his own version of Vedic
> City, with 
> architectural plans and all... 
> 
> Regarding MMY's current project, given his fondness
> for dictators, it 
> would not surprise me if Zimbabwe were one of the
> "three-four 
> countries" selected for invincibility, at Britain's
> expense, the more 
> so because of Mugabe's stance AGAINST Britain. In
> fact MMY might want 
> to favour undemocratic anti-British and
> anti-American regimes 
> (especially as he can't well withdraw from America
> itself, there is 
> too much invested there already).
> > 
> > Maharishi University of Management, 
> > Holland Celebrates the 
> > Dawn of a New World Order of Peace 
> > -the Rise of Perfection in World Politics and
> Economy 
> > 
> > Four Nations Identified as Embodying the Cardinal
> Qualities of an 
> Ideal State 
> > 
> > An Historic Day of 
> > 
> > Great Celebration for the World 
> > 
> > Today, Maharishi University of Management
> celebrates the dawn of a 
> New World Order of Peace, as demonstrated by the
> invincibility of 
> President Fidel Castro of Cuba, the freedom of
> President Robert 
> Mugabe of Zimbabwe, the Divine Rulership of
> President Abdurrahman 
> Wahid of Indonesia, and the casting off of corrupt
> democracy by 
> President Robert Guei of the Ivory Coast. 
> > 
> > These four Heads-of-State are four great
> forerunners of a 
> forthcoming New World Order of Peace. 
> > 
> > The present strength of their leadership is the
> first visible 
> effect of improvement in the administration of
> nations. Their special 
> qualities of ideal leadership demonstrate a rise in
> the world of 
> Global Administration through Natural Law, and
> foreshadow a time soon 
> to come when every nation will be sovereign,
> self-sufficient and 
> invincible, yet will be united with all other
> nations in a world 
> family enjoying perpetual peace. 
> > 
> > During the past forty years, nine American
> Presidents have tried to 
> overthrow or kill Fidel Castro, and have failed-he
> has demonstrated 
> invincibility in the face of a giant nation of vast
> destructive 
> military power. 
> > 
> > President Robert Mugabe has stood firm against the
> hypocritical 
> threats of Zimbabwe's former colonial master, and
> reminded Britain 
> that Zimbabwe is not their colony anymore. He has
> demonstrated 
> freedom, and stood against the savage depredations
> of the colonial 
> past. 
> > 
> > President Wahid, the first President honored as a
> saint by his 
> people, has brought into the world of politics the
> qualities of 
> purity, tolerance, harmony, and devotion to God. He
> is the First 
> Divine Ruler of Indonesia. 
> > 
> > President Guei has thrown off the faulty and
> corrupt democratic 
> system imposed on so many nations by their former
> imperial overlords, 
> and which has led only to chaos and plundering of
> the nation by an 
> elite, while the poor remain pressed under the
> weight of their 
> misery. 
> > 
> > The world is awakening to the reality that the old
> order is 
> passing, and a New World Order of Peace is dawning.
> The new order 
> will be characterized by these very qualities of the
> four Presidents-
> invincibility, freedom, divine rule, and the
> transformation of 
> corrupt

Re: [FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread Llundrub 





It came out about two years ago. 


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  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:18 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] new world order 
  (was wealth and reincarnation)
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
  wrote:> Please make sure you read his whacked letter (below) to 
  dictators, >ah here it is for the newcommers to this group. I am not 
  making this >up.:An incredible letter, when was this sent out? 
  


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[FairfieldLife] new world order (was wealth and reincarnation)

2005-05-17 Thread claudiouk 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Please make sure you read his whacked letter (below) to dictators, 
>ah here it is for the newcommers to this group. I am not making this 
>up.:

An incredible letter, when was this sent out? It's no wonder MMY 
completely misread the significance of Blaire's re-election!! 
Elementary school children have more of a grasp of the political 
realities in the world than this letter demonstrates. What is the 
point of MMY bothering to bombard intelligent, educated people in 
positions of responsibility with this kind of nonsense - no wonder 
they can't take it seriously. And, obviously frustrated after 50 
fruitless years of such ineffective communication with his target 
audience, he's now created a fantasy world order of his own with toy 
money and playmates dressed up in robes and crowns..

Had MMY's Movement been active before WW2 no doubt he WOULD have been 
praising Hitler's "invincibility" in defying the hegemony of the 
British and their "divide and rule" democracies and supported his 
enlightened ideals of establishing a "pure" race according to Natural 
Law. He'd applaud the skillful use of propaganda - he's ended up 
copying chunks of it himself. Hitler too spent much of his time 
daydreaming about building his own version of Vedic City, with 
architectural plans and all... 

Regarding MMY's current project, given his fondness for dictators, it 
would not surprise me if Zimbabwe were one of the "three-four 
countries" selected for invincibility, at Britain's expense, the more 
so because of Mugabe's stance AGAINST Britain. In fact MMY might want 
to favour undemocratic anti-British and anti-American regimes 
(especially as he can't well withdraw from America itself, there is 
too much invested there already).
> 
> Maharishi University of Management, 
> Holland Celebrates the 
> Dawn of a New World Order of Peace 
> -the Rise of Perfection in World Politics and Economy 
> 
> Four Nations Identified as Embodying the Cardinal Qualities of an 
Ideal State 
> 
> An Historic Day of 
> 
> Great Celebration for the World 
> 
> Today, Maharishi University of Management celebrates the dawn of a 
New World Order of Peace, as demonstrated by the invincibility of 
President Fidel Castro of Cuba, the freedom of President Robert 
Mugabe of Zimbabwe, the Divine Rulership of President Abdurrahman 
Wahid of Indonesia, and the casting off of corrupt democracy by 
President Robert Guei of the Ivory Coast. 
> 
> These four Heads-of-State are four great forerunners of a 
forthcoming New World Order of Peace. 
> 
> The present strength of their leadership is the first visible 
effect of improvement in the administration of nations. Their special 
qualities of ideal leadership demonstrate a rise in the world of 
Global Administration through Natural Law, and foreshadow a time soon 
to come when every nation will be sovereign, self-sufficient and 
invincible, yet will be united with all other nations in a world 
family enjoying perpetual peace. 
> 
> During the past forty years, nine American Presidents have tried to 
overthrow or kill Fidel Castro, and have failed-he has demonstrated 
invincibility in the face of a giant nation of vast destructive 
military power. 
> 
> President Robert Mugabe has stood firm against the hypocritical 
threats of Zimbabwe's former colonial master, and reminded Britain 
that Zimbabwe is not their colony anymore. He has demonstrated 
freedom, and stood against the savage depredations of the colonial 
past. 
> 
> President Wahid, the first President honored as a saint by his 
people, has brought into the world of politics the qualities of 
purity, tolerance, harmony, and devotion to God. He is the First 
Divine Ruler of Indonesia. 
> 
> President Guei has thrown off the faulty and corrupt democratic 
system imposed on so many nations by their former imperial overlords, 
and which has led only to chaos and plundering of the nation by an 
elite, while the poor remain pressed under the weight of their 
misery. 
> 
> The world is awakening to the reality that the old order is 
passing, and a New World Order of Peace is dawning. The new order 
will be characterized by these very qualities of the four Presidents-
invincibility, freedom, divine rule, and the transformation of 
corrupt and failing democracies into governments that unify and 
nourish on the basis of the support of the evolutionary power of 
Natural Law. 
> 
> A Sovereign Government Accepts A New Principle for the Eradication 
of Poverty without Foreign Debt 
>
> There is a yet another cause for celebration today-the sovereign 
government of Zimbabwe has accepted a new principle to eradicate 
poverty without the need for ruinous foreign loans. 
> 
> A frank evaluation of the performance of the IMF and World Bank 
indicates that they have not eradicated poverty at all. But they have 
overshadowed the sovereignty of nations, placed upon them heavy 
burdens of deb