[FairfieldLife] Question for Cardemeister
What was that verse that Maharishi use to always quote, something like: Taking recourse to my Self, I create again and again. Sanskrit, English, and source please
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On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote: What was that verse that Maharishi use to always quote, something like: Taking recourse to my Self, I create again and again. Sanskrit, English, and source please It's from the Bhagavad-gita 9:8 prakritim svam avastabhya visrijami punah punah The full verse is: prakritim svam avastabhya visrijami punah punah bhuta-gramam imam krtsnam avasam prakriter vasat His typical translation of 'prakritim svam avastabhya visrijami punah punah' was: Curving back on my own nature I create, again and again. The full translation of the entire verse is: Curving back on my own nature I create, again and again, all this multitude of beings under the regime of Nature.
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Thanks guys. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:38 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Question for Cardemeister On Jul 9, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Rick Archer wrote: What was that verse that Maharishi use to always quote, something like: Taking recourse to my Self, I create again and again. Sanskrit, English, and source please It's from the Bhagavad-gita 9:8 prakritim svam avastabhya visrijami punah punah The full verse is: prakritim svam avastabhya visrijami punah punah bhuta-gramam imam krtsnam avasam prakriter vasat His typical translation of 'prakritim svam avastabhya visrijami punah punah' was: Curving back on my own nature I create, again and again. The full translation of the entire verse is: Curving back on my own nature I create, again and again, all this multitude of beings under the regime of Nature.
[FairfieldLife] Question for Cardemeister
A friend wants to know: Do you have a copy of the 10th Mandala? I'm looking for a hymn that describes creation there, how from nothing came something that one unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength or something like that. Is there anyway you could help me locate that hymn? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM
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On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote: A friend wants to know: Do you have a copy of the 10th Mandala? I'm looking for a hymn that describes creation there, how from nothing came something that one unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength or something like that. Is there anyway you could help me locate that hymn? I apologize for interjecting your direct question, but this is a favorite of mine. Years ago, I corresponded briefly with Jean Le Mee, then a prof. at Cooper Union in NYC. It's one of those verses, esp. in the original Sanskrit, that you could read every day, for a lifetime. Here's what he says--and what inspired me to call him in the first place, his translation of the Nasadiya Sukta, the Hymn of Creation, the connection between later advaita vedanta and an imagined Vedic pedigree (RV X.129): Perhaps no other Vedic hymn equals in depth and majesty this famous Hymn of Creation known to tradition as the Nasadiya Sukta, from its opening words. Its seer, Prajäpati Parameshthin, Supreme Lord of Creatures, chants in the triplepraise meter his knowledge and his wonder as he recalls his vision and in these seven immortal mantras seven like the days of creation plants the seeds of Vedic metaphysics and mathematics. For this hymn, besides being a cosmogony, is also a beautiful meditation on the properties of numbers from one to nine and zero. As the Vedanta philosophy was to develop it later in great detail, and as other traditions also record, the process of creation can be seen as ninefold, each step, each state of consciousness, being characterized by the properties of a particular number. Thus, creation begins in the Absolute, the one without a second, where neither nonbeing nor being was as yet. Then duality creeps in, darkness conceals darkness. And so it all begins. In the fifth stanza is a brilliant example of the mathematical and structural symbolism alluded to in the introduction. The vertical and crosswise directions indicated give in words the substance of a sutra yielding a general and elegant method of multiplication and division while keeping the orders separate the very mechanism of creation itself. It reveals the inner properties of five, the number for man, but also for the manifestation of creation in the major traditions. Was it not on the fifth day that, according to Genesis, God created great whales ... and blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply. . .? Pure coincidence? Hardly, when we know with what care the Vedic poets con structed their hymns. And then, what of this other coincidence that we find with Dante's Paradiso In virtually the same words as Prajapati Parameshthin, the Prince of Poets sings: Order was created and together with it Were woven the substances; Those formed the summit of the world In which pure act was produced. Pure potency held the lowest place, In the midst, potency twisted such a mighty bond With act, as shall never be severed. That line, that ray of glory that the wise stretched between the Will on high and the Potency beneath, that mighty bond, scales all the states of being, uniting in its reach the whole creation. Yet, from where does it all spring? Who truly knows? Jean Le Mée Hymns From the Rig-Veda. If you guys like I can post the translation. It's quite beautiful. The earlier work I understand, has been re-issued. -Vaj
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If you guys find this hymn, please let me know. It's my favorite, and the pages where it should be are missing from my copy of the tenth mandala. a Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Rick Archer wrote: A friend wants to know: Do you have a copy of the 10th Mandala? I'm looking for a hymn that describes creation there, how from nothing came something that one unbreathed upon breathed of his own strength or something like that. Is there anyway you could help me locate that hymn? I apologize for interjecting your direct question, but this is a favorite of mine. Years ago, I corresponded briefly with Jean Le Mee, then a prof. at Cooper Union in NYC. It's one of those verses, esp. in the original Sanskrit, that you could read every day, for a lifetime. Here's what he says--and what inspired me to call him in the first place, his translation of the Nasadiya Sukta, the Hymn of Creation, the connection between later advaita vedanta and an imagined Vedic pedigree (RV X.129): Perhaps no other Vedic hymn equals in depth and majesty this famous Hymn of Creation known to tradition as the Nasadiya Sukta, from its opening words. Its seer, Prajäpati Parameshthin, Supreme Lord of Creatures, chants in the triplepraise meter his knowledge and his wonder as he recalls his vision and in these seven immortal mantras seven like the days of creation plants the seeds of Vedic metaphysics and mathematics. For this hymn, besides being a cosmogony, is also a beautiful meditation on the properties of numbers from one to nine and zero. As the Vedanta philosophy was to develop it later in great detail, and as other traditions also record, the process of creation can be seen as ninefold, each step, each state of consciousness, being characterized by the properties of a particular number. Thus, creation begins in the Absolute, the one without a second, where neither nonbeing nor being was as yet. Then duality creeps in, darkness conceals darkness. And so it all begins. In the fifth stanza is a brilliant example of the mathematical and structural symbolism alluded to in the introduction. The vertical and crosswise directions indicated give in words the substance of a sutra yielding a general and elegant method of multiplication and division while keeping the orders separate the very mechanism of creation itself. It reveals the inner properties of five, the number for man, but also for the manifestation of creation in the major traditions. Was it not on the fifth day that, according to Genesis, God created great whales ... and blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply. . .? Pure coincidence? Hardly, when we know with what care the Vedic poets con structed their hymns. And then, what of this other coincidence that we find with Dante's Paradiso In virtually the same words as Prajapati Parameshthin, the Prince of Poets sings: Order was created and together with it Were woven the substances; Those formed the summit of the world In which pure act was produced. Pure potency held the lowest place, In the midst, potency twisted such a mighty bond With act, as shall never be severed. That line, that ray of glory that the wise stretched between the Will on high and the Potency beneath, that mighty bond, scales all the states of being, uniting in its reach the whole creation. Yet, from where does it all spring? Who truly knows? Jean Le Mée Hymns From the Rig-Veda. If you guys like I can post the translation. It's quite beautiful. The earlier work I understand, has been re-issued. -Vaj Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Question for Cardemeister
Angela writes: If you guys find this hymn, please let me know. It's my favorite, and the pages where it should be are missing from my copy of the tenth mandala. a TomT; Revelations has a ton of copies if you wish to update yours. Or on the other hadn stop in get a cup of coffee and read what you want when you want to at no additional cost.
