[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I admit that I am fascinated by Atlantis subject matter. I tend to gobble up books on the subject. And yes, pretty much the tales end up the same - evil overcoming good and the place gets destroyed. I, on the other hand, am fascinated mainly by the fascination with it. I have seen this fascination act itself out in several spiritual trips, and it's always the same. The myth, all springing from one tiny, never verified mention in Greek history, is *perfect* to project one's fantasies onto, because there is no detail and no facts (even claimed facts) to get in the way. It's a blank slate, onto which supposed seers and spiritual teachers have been projecting *their* fantasies for centuries. See the world in terms of duality, and a constant struggle between good and evil, and *of course* that's what Atlantis was all about. And even though there is no mention of *how* the mythical Atlantis sunk beneath the waves, or *why*, again *of course* it's because the people of Atlantis were being punished for somehow straying from the path of good and into the world of evil. What's most fascinating is to sit in a room full of people who are already committed to some spiritual teacher or guru or cult leader of some kind, and see that person spin made-up tales of Old Atlantis and watch the followers nod their heads and say, Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, right. They just want to believe that if these events took place, that *they* -- being so important and all -- were right there, right then, right in the center of the action. On the whole, I'm more comfortable with truly fictional fantasy like the Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones than the same thing pretending to be seeing. There is an honesty about real fiction that you just don't find in fiction being presented as if it were fact.
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Wow, Steve, I think Neo just sent 2 posts before I even hit Send button! More later. On Friday, December 6, 2013 6:47 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. And also, for me, likely a form of escape. I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization
[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. And also, for me, likely a form of escape. I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern recorded history. I feel about tales of Atlantis sorta the same way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're great tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were -- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda taints a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me. Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that they have seen or cognized using their super-secret paranormal powers is, Yeah, right, I tend to feel that way about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-) Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither.
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Well, now see heah, the real deal is that accordin' to all the new agey channels and what not, the Atlantean civilization was of such a much more high vibration, that it existed beyond the current visible physical vibration, so when it vanished, it literally vanished - convenient excuse that LOTS of folk swallow for why no physical evidence exists. On Fri, 12/6/13, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 2:08 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. And also, for me, likely a form of escape. I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern recorded history. I feel about tales of Atlantis sorta the same way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're great tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were -- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda taints a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me. Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that they have seen or cognized using their super-secret paranormal powers is, Yeah, right, I tend to feel that way about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-) Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither.
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I watched the BBC America version last night and it seemed to be targeted at teen audiences. It was a about a cut above some of the Asylum films that are on Syfy. On 12/06/2013 06:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. And also, for me, likely a form of escape. I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization /I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern recorded history. I feel about tales of Atlantis sorta the same way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're _great_ tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were -- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda taints a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me. Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that they have seen or cognized using their super-secret paranormal powers is, Yeah, right, I tend to feel that way about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-) Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither. /
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Any relation? LoL! An Iowa attorney, Robert Allan Wright, got one his clients, Linda Putz, to put up money in order to get another client some Nigerian inheritance money. It just doesn't get any funnier than this! Please, people, refrain from the Iowa jokes. Lawyers in Iowa aren't the only ones who fall for Nigerian email scams; it's more common than you might think among attorneys. Really? Really? Good grief. What a moron. Everyone knows Nigeria isn't ruled by a president; it has a prince! LoL! Read more: 'Lawyer Falls For Nigerian Inheritance Scam, Gets Suspended' http://abovethelaw.com/2013/12/lawyer-falls-for-nigerian-inheritance-scam-gets-suspended/ On 12/6/2013 8:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Right. Sometimes there's no explaining why a subject matter captures ones interest. And it could be the same reason that I found Star Wars, (especially the early installments), Avatar, and Lord of the Rings so enjoyable - that element of fantasy. And also, for me, likely a form of escape. I can't say that I would be singled out as a proponent of the existence of Atlantis. I just enjoy reading about it. But I must admit, I think it would have been neat to see James Cameron dedicate the funds he spent going to the bottom of the ocean (and not fining much) spent on some research to see if there was any evidence of the fabled civilization /I would tend to agree. I have no opinion one way or another on the existence of a large civilization now covered by ocean, but it does seem odd that no one has really found traces of one. Or at least not one that can be carbon-dated to have existed before the age of our modern recorded history. I feel about tales of Atlantis sorta the same way I feel about the tales told by Carlos Castaneda and T. Lobsong Rampa. They're _great_ tales, often told well. If they had been presented as what they were -- fiction -- no one would ever have had any problems with them. But they weren't; they were presented as if they were fact. So that kinda taints a good story and removes some of its interest, at least for me. Since my instantaneous reaction to almost *anyone* saying things that they have seen or cognized using their super-secret paranormal powers is, Yeah, right, I tend to feel that way about anyone talking about Atlantis as if what they said was in any way authoritative. :-) Still, if this latest BBC America offering had been entertaining and even halfway intelligent, I'd probably continue watching it, just to see what they came up with. Sadly, it was neither. /
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis
Steve, when I'm replying to your posts, a spinning thingie appears and my reply disappears! On Friday, December 6, 2013 11:10 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Share, Just checking in for a minute. But had to offer a second opinion abut Hunger Games II. Luckily we saw it at a matinee, when it was only $5.00. I found it boring, with uninspired acting. IMO, you won't be missing anything if you skip it. That goes for Gravity as well. Another boring ass movie IMHO. Yes, I always like some new insight into Atlantis. I don't know if it existed, but if I had to make a wager on it, I would say it did exist. Hockey is off to a great start, and we've able to go to many games. Theresa is such a conscientious student that she sometimes is not able to go.
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Steve, my sister was in a head on collision today and I've been focused on that. She's ok but it was scary. On Friday, December 6, 2013 11:10 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Share, Just checking in for a minute. But had to offer a second opinion abut Hunger Games II. Luckily we saw it at a matinee, when it was only $5.00. I found it boring, with uninspired acting. IMO, you won't be missing anything if you skip it. That goes for Gravity as well. Another boring ass movie IMHO. Yes, I always like some new insight into Atlantis. I don't know if it existed, but if I had to make a wager on it, I would say it did exist. Hockey is off to a great start, and we've able to go to many games. Theresa is such a conscientious student that she sometimes is not able to go.
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It's ok, Steve. it just means I have to type fast and keep the posts short. On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:14 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I wonder what that could be. I'll have to pay closer attention to what happens when I post.
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Steve, they've released her from the hospital so she must be ok. Left eye bruised shut with a cut above it. Her left hand needed stitches too. In a smaller car, she'd be lots worse off. On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:13 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh my, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope she recovers fully.
[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. I wouldn't go that far. I quite enjoyed two previous BBC America series, Ripper Street and Copper. That's why I gave this one a shot. But am very much enjoying this Spanish historical romp about Isabel 1st and Ferdinand 2nd: http://www.sky.com/tv/show/isabel It's a Spanish produced historical fiction television series filmed in Spain, directed by Jordi Frades and produced for national broadcaster Televisión Española. Can you get it? Argh. That's the sound of a foiled pirate. :-) I can find versions in Castaellano and Catalan, but not English yet. I'll keep searching. There is an amazing underground out there in the pirate 'verse that specializes in providing subtitles in various languages to good movies that are not yet available with them. Some of the translations are good, some are not, but they're *there*. And you really can't complain about the quality because the people who put them *there* did it for free, out of a love for movies, and a sense of community. I'm currently watching the second season of Bron-Broen (The Bridge), with pretty acceptable pirate subtitles, because the official English version isn't out yet. In our household we are 16th century all-things-Tudor fans (save The Tudors LOL). Henry VIII's wife Catherine of Aragon was Isabel 1's daughter, so it gives a different perspective (relative to our neck of the woods). It sounds great, and as you probably suspected, right up my alley. Thanks for mentioning it...I will definitely track it down. Can't wait. Perhaps we need her ilk to be reborn: She reorganized the governmental system, brought the crime rate to the lowest it had been in years, and unburdened the kingdom of the enormous debt her brother had left behind [Wiki} Indeed. Some of them old monarchs had them some style. Up next in my TV queue after Bron-Broen 2 is Orange Is The New Black. I've been hearing good things about it from people I trust. It's by the same people who created Weeds. (Delivered under NEO sufferance torture) My condolences, and appreciation for how readable it turned out. I've still been spared from the Neobeast, both in France and in the Netherlands. Go figure. Just good karma, I guess. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don't bother with BBC America's Atlantis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. It was like watching Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis. Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for So-crates to appear. :-)
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No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves! On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. It was like watching Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis. Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for So-crates to appear. :-)
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Our library has The Tudors and as much as I like Rhys Meyers, I kind of creeped out by Henry VIII. However have thoroughly enjoyed Phillippa Gregory's novels about the various wives. On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:57 PM, waspaligap no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. But am very much enjoying this Spanish historical romp about Isabel 1st and Ferdinand 2nd: http://www.sky.com/tv/show/isabel It's a Spanish produced historical fiction television series filmed in Spain, directed by Jordi Frades and produced for national broadcaster Televisión Española. Can you get it? In our household we are 16th century all-things-Tudor fans (save The Tudors LOL). Henry VIII's wife Catherine of Aragon was Isabel 1's daughter, so it gives a different perspective (relative to our neck of the woods). Perhaps we need her ilk to be reborn: She reorganized the governmental system, brought the crime rate to the lowest it had been in years, and unburdened the kingdom of the enormous debt her brother had left behind [Wiki} (Delivered under NEO sufferance torture)
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On 12/05/2013 11:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Up next in my TV queue after Bron-Broen 2 is Orange Is The New Black. I've been hearing good things about it from people I trust. It's by the same people who created Weeds. I watched maybe 6-8 episodes of Orange Is the New Black but that was back in the summer when I started having problems getting an HD stream out of Netflix which is no longer a problem now that I use Chromecast. I also thought Kenji was milking the storyline a bit much to deliver the number episodes Netflix wanted. I still like the 6-8 episode model that foreign networks use. Most US showrunners start creating filler episodes to get to 13. Netflix also release a trailer for the second season of Lilyhammer. Funny thing, after cutting the cable I have more to watch than I had before cutting it.
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The 1961 movie Atlantis, the Lost Continent was a warning about technology going out of control. I don't know if that is the tract this version will go down. On 12/05/2013 11:36 AM, Share Long wrote: No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves! On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. It was like watching Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis. Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for So-crates to appear. :-)
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It seems that all *great* civilizations are doomed to collapse. Maybe the Chinese will be the exception to that! On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:56 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The 1961 movie Atlantis, the Lost Continent was a warning about technology going out of control. I don't know if that is the tract this version will go down. On 12/05/2013 11:36 AM, Share Long wrote: No females?! Now wonder it sank beneath the waves! On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:34 PM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, waspaligap wrote: Spot on. Awful! I can hardly watch anything BBC these days. It was like watching Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure In Atlantis. Characters named Jason and Pythagorus and Hercules. I was waiting for So-crates to appear. :-)
