Re "An interesting speculative idea by MZ - that the Holy Spirit vacated the scene after the WWII Monte Cassino bombing."
I've heard that idea before - but can't recall who said it. So who is "MZ" and why do you expect us to recognise the initials? Surely the Holy Spirit doesn't split when the going gets tough? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, <yifuxero@...> wrote: An interesting speculative idea by MZ - that the Holy Spirit vacated the scene after the WWII Monte Casino bombing. MZ also questions, "Where is Jesus". .... After some brief research on Christian "Awakenings" in the UK and the US, some believe there's an approximate 50 yea pattern starting from Wales then spreading to the American colonies around 1750. Then add 50 years from that, getting to a major "Third Awakening" in the late 1840's with the initial expansion of Methodism. ... Fast forward to the early 20'th century then the era around 1950 (think Billy Graham). But then the question becomes: After that? and expecially - has the Holy Spirit taken a vacation, and where is Jesus? ... Actually, (the first question), there is currently a major "Awakening" of Latino Evangelicals in the Western Hemisphere, but they worship in private home churches. Also, a similar Awakening has taken place in China. ... Therefore, in regard to the Evangelicals, the (about) 50 year rule holds; but the more important questions remain: What about the future of Christianity as a whole? But most fascinating is the question of the impact between the Morphogenetic fields: Christianity vs (all together - New Age teachings, Buddhism, and what is called Hinduism. ... One solution to the apparent conflict between the two M-fields is that phonies like 'Deepak Chopra and Eckhart Tolle simply paint "true" Christianity as Gnostic, then go on to claim that the "Unified Field" unites the two camps. This is pure bullshit. ... Getting back to MZ, he then asked (assuming one accepts Roman Catholocism as one's religion), "What about the Impersonal Absolute". In other words, he's recognized that the Personal Deity of mainstream Christianity (and the Evangelicals); but not the Gnostic variants; offer irreconcialible differences to the "New Age" camp - which is basically "Presence" oriented rather than devoted to a Personal Deity. ... How these differences and possible conflicts get ironed out is a major source of conflicts for a long time to come - perhaps centuries. And, we see hints of the conflicts in this forum. Is that because the participants "make" the camps conflicted or are there are inherent differences built into the basic world views? I believe the latter, and the source of the conflicts involves real questions of "truth" in each; such that if one statement if true , then a false statement must apply to the other camp. ...Such irreconciliable differences begin with the major questions of Philosophy and the means to attain "ultimate" Happiness. Are such means through Jesus, the Personality?,....or through the Impersonal Absolute?
