[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
Hooray! Any day soon we get rid of those methane farting cows... http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2 http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
Carde, imho we'd all be farting methane if we had to eat what the poor cows eat! OTOH, allowing cows, etc. to graze naturally can actually help the environment by reversing desertification that is happening all over the world. http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:47 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: Hooray! Any day soon we get rid of those methane farting cows... http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: Good article, and about bloody time. Those of us who gave up vegetarianism years ago get subjected to proselytizing about how cool and wonderful and...well...more evolved vegetarian eating is almost every day on the Net and in the press. But no one speaks up for those of us who tried it, didn't like it much, and went back to being what nature intended us to be -- happy omnivores. In my case, my breakthrough moment after years of being strict veggie (although never anything weirder and more fundamentalist like Vegan or macrobiotic or gluten-free) was at an ATR course at Cobb Mountain. I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/01/vegetarians-return-to-meat.html http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/01/vegetarians-return-to-meat.html For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Carde, imho we'd all be farting methane if we had to eat what the poor cows eat! OTOH, allowing cows, etc. to graze naturally can actually help the environment by reversing desertification that is happening all over the world. http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: http://chemistry.about.com/od/medicalhealth/f/What-Is-The-Chemical-Composition-Of-Farts.htm http://chemistry.about.com/od/medicalhealth/f/What-Is-The-Chemical-Composition-Of-Farts.htm On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:47 AM, cardemaister@... cardemaister@... wrote: Hooray! Any day soon we get rid of those methane farting cows... http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2 http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
Just what I was thinking. There are so many reasons these days to reduce, if not eliminate, one's consumption of meat that don't have anything to do with how one feels physically (or, for that matter, because one thinks it's spiritual not to eat meat, ethical considerations aside). The happy omnivore excuse for eating meat is mostly an anachronism. It may have made sense waay back when before factory livestock operations, before feeding livestock required a disproportionate share of agricultural land and water. How many people can a hamburger feed, versus the 16 times as much grain it takes to make that hamburger? Not to mention what we know now about the unhealthiness of a high-meat diet. Back in the happy omnivore days, what nature intended was for meat to be an occasional, even rare, treat, not the mainstay of the diet. Granted--Bhairitu will confirm this--some people don't do that well on a strictly vegetarian diet, and they shouldn't be made to feel guilty for eating just enough meat to keep their physiology in good shape, especially if they can stick to chicken and fish. (A TM teacher of my acquaintance told me that Maharishi once said to someone who asked about eating meat: If you really have to, best to eat small animals.) And of course if you can afford it, buy free-range meat--it's better for you and, obviously, for the animals it comes from. But to puff oneself up and feel superior because one has rejected vegetarianism is the shallowest of egotistical nonsense. For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
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Richard, as far as I can tell, Funny Farm Loungers are interested in what happens at BOTH ends of the alimentary canal. Go figure for real! On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:58 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL!
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whoops! I amend that to say *some* Funny Farm Loungers... On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, as far as I can tell, Funny Farm Loungers are interested in what happens at BOTH ends of the alimentary canal. Go figure for real! On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:58 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Losing your Veginity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 1/14/2014 1:48 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. So, I guess we know now where a lot of the methane is coming from. LoL! LOL. I have no problem with that characterization. IMO, anyone who *does* have a problem with everything they write here being characterized as mind farts is deceiving themselves, and in serious danger of taking themselves FAR too seriously. :-)
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On 1/14/2014 10:20 AM, Share Long wrote: I amend that to say *some* Funny Farm Loungers... Some Funny Farmers are interested in what people eat and what people wear. Some Funny Farmers are interested in whether human excrement flows down stream or not. And, some Funny Farmers are just interested in what Richard and Share post every day. Go figure.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/14/2014 8:48 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: This is fascinating stuff and more can be found here: So, you ARE interested in what people eat. LoL! Is this the same as knowing the chemical composition of flatulance? You might find this link useful, Ricky. You are an old fart, right? http://myshreddies.com/ http://myshreddies.com/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Just what I was thinking. There are so many reasons these days to reduce, if not eliminate, one's consumption of meat that don't have anything to do with how one feels physically (or, for that matter, because one thinks it's spiritual not to eat meat, ethical considerations aside). The happy omnivore excuse for eating meat is mostly an anachronism. It may have made sense waay back when before factory livestock operations, before feeding livestock required a disproportionate share of agricultural land and water. How many people can a hamburger feed, versus the 16 times as much grain it takes to make that hamburger? Not to mention what we know now about the unhealthiness of a high-meat diet. Back in the happy omnivore days, what nature intended was for meat to be an occasional, even rare, treat, not the mainstay of the diet. Granted--Bhairitu will confirm this--some people don't do that well on a strictly vegetarian diet, and they shouldn't be made to feel guilty for eating just enough meat to keep their physiology in good shape, especially if they can stick to chicken and fish. (A TM teacher of my acquaintance told me that Maharishi once said to someone who asked about eating meat: If you really have to, best to eat small animals.) And of course if you can afford it, buy free-range meat--it's better for you and, obviously, for the animals it comes from. But to puff oneself up and feel superior because one has rejected vegetarianism is the shallowest of egotistical nonsense. Thanks for this incisive post. You have said a lot here and most of it encompasses my feelings about this subject. I do eat small creatures because I feel sometimes I need to eat meat - things like fish and birds. Fish I would have a hard time cutting out of my diet but for the rest of the meat, I could leave it alone. For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Losing your Veginity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: My first experience with the idea of biochemical individuality came in 1972 when a friend's wife who was attending naturopathic college recommended it get a physical there. The MD (who was getting his ND) asked if I was a vegetarian and I said no, but I've been trying it for a couple of weeks. He told me I was already showing signs of anemia and recommended eating some animal protein two or three times a week. That began my interests in using specific diets with first the macrobiotic diet after reading William Duffy's Sugar Blues. BTW, that isn't about just eating brown rice and the books on it had diets to balance yin and yang and would often recommend fish. Then there was then interest in ayurveda sparked by the AE courses. I got some books on that to read up on it. Another interest among TM'ers in the late 1970s was the Bieler diet. He was an endocrinologist who had specific diets for people with different endocrine makeups. The doctor TM'er saw for that was Abravenal out of Los Angeles. Finally a group of folks in Seattle got interested in the Kelley program which was a computerized diet system that evaluated whether you were a fast oxidizer, slow oxidizer or mixed oxidizer. There were diet programs for each and specific supplements. To this day I use these concepts along with Indian and Chinese medical concepts to keep my body out of trouble. Nutrition is not an ideology. You NEED to eat what your body needs. There is no way around this. I've watched people who shouldn't be vegans adopt that diet (which is primarily a cleansing diet) start living in their head. They seem to like the high but some of them are beginning to have the medical problems that an inappropriate diet can cause. I literally haven't given a thought to my diet since the day that chicken breast called my name, and don't feel any the worse for it. Fortunately, I tend towards natural foods, so that's what I eat if I cook for myself or with my extended family at home. If out for dinner at other people's homes or in restaurants, I eat what I'm served. So far, there have been zero adverse effects, and I avoid the TMer Syndrome of being overfocused on health and my health problems that is so tiring and *so* antithetical to their overall message of TM for perfect health. On 01/13/2014 11:48 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: */Good article, and about bloody time. Those of us who gave up vegetarianism years ago get subjected to proselytizing about how cool and wonderful and...well...more evolved vegetarian eating is almost every day on the Net and in the press. But no one speaks up for those of us who tried it, didn't like it much, and went back to being what nature intended us to be -- happy omnivores. In my case, my breakthrough moment after years of being strict veggie (although never anything weirder and more fundamentalist like Vegan or macrobiotic or gluten-free) was at an ATR course at Cobb Mountain. I was in line for dinner and a piece of chicken called my name and said Eat me. I did, felt better almost immediately, and have never looked back since. /* */http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/01/vegetarians-return-to-meat.html /*
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On 1/14/2014 11:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: */Fortunately, I tend towards natural foods/* So, you're on a natural foods diet.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
A char-broiled grass-fed beef burger is incomparable in taste and sustenance for me, when I want one, which is about once a month, maybe --- preferably grilled outdoors. If I want to reground my connection, and do some heavy lifting, its beef or carnitas all the way. Summer, I eat more fish. I am not a big meatie, though I really like it, when I like it. I also drink a lot of milk, and soy/whey protein drinks. Mo.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Just what I was thinking. There are so many reasons these days to reduce, if not eliminate, one's consumption of meat that don't have anything to do with how one feels physically (or, for that matter, because one thinks it's spiritual not to eat meat, ethical considerations aside). The happy omnivore excuse for eating meat is mostly an anachronism. It may have made sense waay back when before factory livestock operations, before feeding livestock required a disproportionate share of agricultural land and water. How many people can a hamburger feed, versus the 16 times as much grain it takes to make that hamburger? Not to mention what we know now about the unhealthiness of a high-meat diet. Back in the happy omnivore days, what nature intended was for meat to be an occasional, even rare, treat, not the mainstay of the diet. Granted--Bhairitu will confirm this--some people don't do that well on a strictly vegetarian diet, and they shouldn't be made to feel guilty for eating just enough meat to keep their physiology in good shape, especially if they can stick to chicken and fish. (A TM teacher of my acquaintance told me that Maharishi once said to someone who asked about eating meat: If you really have to, best to eat small animals.) And of course if you can afford it, buy free-range meat--it's better for you and, obviously, for the animals it comes from. But to puff oneself up and feel superior because one has rejected vegetarianism is the shallowest of egotistical nonsense. Thanks for this incisive post. You have said a lot here and most of it encompasses my feelings about this subject. I do eat small creatures because I feel sometimes I need to eat meat - things like fish and birds. Fish I would have a hard time cutting out of my diet but for the rest of the meat, I could leave it alone. For me it was not primarily about feeling better or not physically. Eating less meat was and is about contributing as little as possible to the meat industry and its inhumane practices and standards and to try, in some small way, to lessen the suffering of other living creatures by not causing them to be held captive and force fed all sorts of bad stuff in order for me to later ingest them. It is my very miniscule attempt to try and cause a little less suffering by my fellow, living creatures here on this planet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Losing your Veginity
On 1/14/2014 10:09 AM, Share Long wrote: ...as far as I can tell, Funny Farm Loungers are interested in what happens at BOTH ends of the alimentary canal. Go figure for real! And it looks like at least two the Funny Farm Loungers informants on FFL are VERY interested in the private sex lives of some Fairfield residents. So, now we know they're also interested in what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms. Go figure.
