[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Barry, apologies for lowering the tone of the conversation... Too late. Several people already did that by projecting their hot button pushed-ness onto satirical and funny artwork they didn't understand. :-) ...but you did make the acquaintance of Crumb and I was pruriently curious if his wife was also one of those dominatrix types with huge thighs and ass like his trademark fantasy artwork women. Had he found his ideal partner? And what was she like as a person? I know Aline quite well. She was, after all, my next-door neighbor for several years. Interestingly, she does not have the body type often celebrated in Crumb's work -- big legs, big butt, big boobs. She's trim, and in fact teaches exercise, yoga, and aerobics classes there in Sauve. She's also a graphic artist, although IMO not nearly as talented as Robert. She's also (and please no one get all offended at this because this is how she describes herself) yer classic Long Island Jew, so if any qualities or characteristics spring to yer mind when you hear that phrase, Aline embodies all of them, both positive and negative. She and Robert have an odd but incredibly long-lasting relationship. She wears the business pants of the family, and he likely would have starved to death long ago if it weren't for her. They have a somewhat open marriage, with both Aline and Robert having other long-term lovers whom they get together with from time to time, none of which seems to affect their bond with each other at all. I *understand* that his choice of subject matter and imagery is not everyone's cuppa tea, but he *has* been referred to by art historians as the closest thing our century has to Breughel and the great pen artists of the past. His command of detail is nothing less than astounding. One of my favorite pieces of his is one you'll never get to see, because it's too fragile to ever be transported. Someone once handed him an Etch-A-Sketch, and although he'd never played with one before, he managed to draw an almost perfect portrait of his daughter Sophie on it. It still is placed in a position of honor in the downstairs living room of his house.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Barry, apologies for lowering the tone of the conversation... Too late. Several people already did that by projecting their hot button pushed-ness onto satirical and funny artwork they didn't understand. :-) Of course they didn't understand it since they didn't like it. Anyone who would find something Bawwy likes unimportant or overestimated and whose claim to fame is that he passed the artist on the street once in a while would certainly find his hot button pushed when he found many others here dislike Crumb's work. Bawwy has many hot buttons including the ones that get depressed as soon as someone disagrees with him or isn't impressed by his passing acquaintance with someone he deems famous and important. ...but you did make the acquaintance of Crumb and I was pruriently curious if his wife was also one of those dominatrix types with huge thighs and ass like his trademark fantasy artwork women. Had he found his ideal partner? And what was she like as a person? I know Aline quite well. She was, after all, my next-door neighbor for several years. Interestingly, she does not have the body type often celebrated in Crumb's work -- big legs, big butt, big boobs. She's trim, and in fact teaches exercise, yoga, and aerobics classes there in Sauve. She's also a graphic artist, although IMO not nearly as talented as Robert. She's also (and please no one get all offended at this because this is how she describes herself) yer classic Long Island Jew, so if any qualities or characteristics spring to yer mind when you hear that phrase, Aline embodies all of them, both positive and negative. She and Robert have an odd but incredibly long-lasting relationship. She wears the business pants of the family, and he likely would have starved to death long ago if it weren't for her. They have a somewhat open marriage, with both Aline and Robert having other long-term lovers whom they get together with from time to time, none of which seems to affect their bond with each other at all. I *understand* that his choice of subject matter and imagery is not everyone's cuppa tea, but he *has* been referred to by art historians as the closest thing our century has to Breughel and the great pen artists of the past. His command of detail is nothing less than astounding. One of my favorite pieces of his is one you'll never get to see, because it's too fragile to ever be transported. Someone once handed him an Etch-A-Sketch, and although he'd never played with one before, he managed to draw an almost perfect portrait of his daughter Sophie on it. It still is placed in a position of honor in the downstairs living room of his house.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: It will probably give you all the willies to know that Crumb did an illuminated Holy Bible - not a send up , not a parody, but an illustrated Bible with his art work. Not the entire Bible...just the book of Genesis. It's been called a masterwork, and stands as the *only* version of Genesis that illustrated every verse of the text in history. On Sat, 2/1/14, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:46 AM  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@ wrote: I always found Crumb's comix disturbing, violent and misogynistic. I particularly hated the Fritz the Cat animated film.A vision of life so cynical has to be a complete dead end. His graphics are ugly, grotesque and leave me feeling rather bereft. I always wonder what is inside someone that allows for this strange hideousness to become manifest, and in comic book form no less. Nope, not where I like to put my attention. Maybe it's a guy thing - those nipples were always so plump and engorged looking.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
You are right, it was the book Genesis On Sat, 2/1/14, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 10:12 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: It will probably give you all the willies to know that Crumb did an illuminated Holy Bible - not a send up , not a parody, but an illustrated Bible with his art work. Not the entire Bible...just the book of Genesis. It's been called a masterwork, and stands as the *only* version of Genesis that illustrated every verse of the text in history. On Sat, 2/1/14, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:46 AM  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@ wrote: I always found Crumb's comix disturbing, violent and misogynistic. I particularly hated the Fritz the Cat animated film.A vision of life so cynical has to be a complete dead end. His graphics are ugly, grotesque and leave me feeling rather bereft. I always wonder what is inside someone that allows for this strange hideousness to become manifest, and in comic book form no less. Nope, not where I like to put my attention. Maybe it's a guy thing - those nipples were always so plump and engorged looking.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: It will probably give you all the willies to know that Crumb did an illuminated Holy Bible - not a send up , not a parody, but an illustrated Bible with his art work. Not the entire Bible...just the book of Genesis. It's been called a masterwork, and stands as the *only* version of Genesis that illustrated every verse of the text in history. And a mighty work it is: http://pointcounterpointblog.com/2012/08/genesis-crumb/ http://pointcounterpointblog.com/2012/08/genesis-crumb/ On Sat, 2/1/14, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:46 AM  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@ wrote: I always found Crumb's comix disturbing, violent and misogynistic. I particularly hated the Fritz the Cat animated film.A vision of life so cynical has to be a complete dead end. His graphics are ugly, grotesque and leave me feeling rather bereft. I always wonder what is inside someone that allows for this strange hideousness to become manifest, and in comic book form no less. Nope, not where I like to put my attention. Maybe it's a guy thing - those nipples were always so plump and engorged looking.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
Barry, apologies for lowering the tone of the conversation, but you did make the acquaintance of Crumb and I was pruriently curious if his wife was also one of those dominatrix types with huge thighs and ass like his trademark fantasy artwork women. Had he found his ideal partner? And what was she like as a person?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Do you know Crumb? I am a great admirer of that guy, although I was probably more affected by Gilbert Shelton and Steve Clay Wilson. I mean who wouldn't love to kick back after a few hits of hash and read the latest issue of Cap'n Pissgums and his Pervert Pirates? Robert was my friend, landlord, and next-door neighbor during the years I lived in Sauve, in the south of France. I consider him one of the most interesting people I've ever met on this planet. FYI, Robert is a total teetotaler and non-druggie, and has been since the 60s. He meditates every day, using his own method, and when it comes down to kicking back (without the hash) and discussing pretty much any aspect of spirituality -- Eastern or Western -- he can more than hold his own. On Fri, 1/31/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 31, 2014, 7:36 PM If you don't know his work, you should. As you read this article, be sure to click on the first link, which takes you to the graphic version of one of his spiritual visions created by my friend Robert Crumb. http://www.businessinsider.com/philip-k-dick-predictions-2014-1Â
[FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
I always found Crumb's comix disturbing, violent and misogynistic. I particularly hated the Fritz the Cat animated film. A vision of life so cynical has to be a complete dead end.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: I always found Crumb's comix disturbing, violent and misogynistic. I particularly hated the Fritz the Cat animated film. A vision of life so cynical has to be a complete dead end. His graphics are ugly, grotesque and leave me feeling rather bereft. I always wonder what is inside someone that allows for this strange hideousness to become manifest, and in comic book form no less. Nope, not where I like to put my attention. Maybe it's a guy thing - those nipples were always so plump and engorged looking.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier
It will probably give you all the willies to know that Crumb did an illuminated Holy Bible - not a send up , not a parody, but an illustrated Bible with his art work. On Sat, 2/1/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Philip K. Dick was smarter than you, and earlier To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:46 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: I always found Crumb's comix disturbing, violent and misogynistic. I particularly hated the Fritz the Cat animated film.A vision of life so cynical has to be a complete dead end. His graphics are ugly, grotesque and leave me feeling rather bereft. I always wonder what is inside someone that allows for this strange hideousness to become manifest, and in comic book form no less. Nope, not where I like to put my attention. Maybe it's a guy thing - those nipples were always so plump and engorged looking.
