Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-12-03 Thread Mike Dixon
Governments, at least capitailist governments, shouldn't be bailing anybody out, individuals or businesses. We have bankruptcy laws to allow such organizations to reorganize. If the government takes the risk out of the equation by offering a bailout, any fool could run a business and risk

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-12-02 Thread s3raphita
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXcLVDhS8fM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXcLVDhS8fM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Socialist programs such as bailing out the big banks: Bailing out failing businesses isn't capitalism red in tooth and claw! It was the

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-11-30 Thread authfriend
Sounds to me as if he's an expert in human nature. And I could cite a busload of Jesus' expressions of concern for the poor and oppressed. Plus one in particular about how hard it is for the rich person to get into Heaven. I don't think you've got a winner of an argument here, Seraphita.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-11-30 Thread authfriend
Well, but the principles don't change. A poor person is a poor person is a poor person no matter what century they live in or under what kind of economic system. Nobody's suggesting Jesus was preaching socialism qua socialism or against capitalism qua capitalism. That's a red herring. He was

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-11-30 Thread authfriend
Well, I'm thinking of the U.S., where capitalism is simply out of control. But I'm not sure what Singapore et al. have to do with the lack of evidence for trickle-down economics. And in any case the pope is talking about the current effects of current systems, not condemning as sympathizers of

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Jesuit Trained Pope Trashes Capitalism in Call for Worldwide Socialism

2013-11-30 Thread dmevans365
Here's an article on why Singapore would be a good model for the US. There would be some major hurdles to overcome here before more of a State capitalist approach would work. http://blogs.hbr.org/2009/08/singapore-a-model-of-judgment/