[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Yes, That is interesting. One time at Humbolt when Maharishi was lecturing Divindra came boiling out in to the crowd and chastised someone for reading the minds of others, “Don't do that, people's minds and their thoughts are their own!” . M was incredibly tight introducing and controlling message in meditation and spiritual revival. He was on a message the whole time and seldom distracted people with other stuff out of sequence. In the less than adept, dabbling as fascination in other people's energy system can be screwing-up for other people's energetic systems , like leaving smudge of finger prints. I bet M. just did not want to unleash a bunch of stupid people in a mass movement for meditation and spiritual revival doing stupid sideline things so rightfully did not point people in that direction. Then learning the formulation of doing sidhis though becomes an important step towards embodiment though, so it becomes a necessity to delve in to; hence the period of time with the TM-sidhis. But the lotus thing, M was getting to with people in the Ved and Physiology course format of revival. That will be the teaching of Nader Ram will get to in his time when he gets to come down off his throne and walk amongst the people. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Madhu seems to take as an example a suutra (III 35'ish), that's not included at least in my set. Here is the original suutra (hRdaye cittasaMvit) with a translation and Bhoja-deva's comment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ The original suutra doesn't have a word for lotus (e.g. puNDariika). Any ideas, why Maharishi left it out? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: I feel real sorry for quitters who did not stick around long enough to really know better. -Buck in the Dome Card, this is interesting. Maharishi employed this some more in some of the advanced technique. I find it really works and amp-ed up the progress of the embodiment of spirituality in the whole subtle energy system. -Buck mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
Card It's from Vyasa's commentary. III.34 hrdaye citta-samvit [From sanyama] on the heart [one gains] understanding (samvid) of chitta [personal consciousness] Vyasa sez: In this city of Brahman is the small lotus which is the palace; in it is the vijñâna (consciousness). From sanyama on it, understanding of chitta. Shankara comments: On the heart, understanding of the chitta. In this city of Brahman, the body, is the small little lotus, the lump of flesh in the form of a lotus with its head turned down, which is the palace, like a palace in that it is the many-channeled meeting-place of the various nadi-s. In it is the consciousness (vijñâna) the chitta. From sanyama it, on the lotus which is strung on the tube that hangs in the lake of the breast, and which is the meeting-place of the life currents (prâna), comes awareness of the mind the sattva ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: Madhu seems to take as an example a suutra (III 35'ish), that's not included at least in my set. Here is the original suutra (hRdaye cittasaMvit) with a translation and Bhoja-deva's comment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11006081703/ The original suutra doesn't have a word for lotus (e.g. puNDariika). Any ideas, why Maharishi left it out? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I feel real sorry for quitters who did not stick around long enough to really know better. -Buck in the Dome Card, this is interesting. Maharishi employed this some more in some of the advanced technique. I find it really works and amp-ed up the progress of the embodiment of spirituality in the whole subtle energy system. -Buck mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: OMG: madhusuudana#39;s definition of dhaaraNaa??
I feel real sorry for quitters who did not stick around long enough to really know better. -Buck in the Dome Card, this is interesting. Maharishi employed this some more in some of the advanced technique. I find it really works and amp-ed up the progress of the embodiment of spirituality in the whole subtle energy system. -Buck mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As most of us might well know, saMyama (sañyama) consists of dhaaraNaa, dhyaanam and samaadhi(H). This seems to be Madhusuudana's definition(?) of dhaaraNaa hRt-puNDariikaadau (hRt-puNDariika+aadau) manasash-cira-kaala-sthaapanaM dhaaraNaa. My attempt at translation: mind's long-time-staying-in the lotus of heart, etc, is dhaaraNaa. mind's (manasaH) long (cira)-time(kaala) -staying-in (sthaapanam) the lotus (puNDariika) of heart (hRt), etc (aadau), [is] dhaaraNaa. http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/7874205230/in/photostream/ At the moment, his definitions of dhyaanam and samaadhiH seem too tricky for this sucker...
