[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Salyavin wrote: But children aren't free to make decisions like that and have to rely on us to do the hard thinking for them, perhaps they might prefer going to school or maybe even not having their lives ruled by superstitious weirdo's? Again, in this particular case, the parents initially consented to the chemotherapy for their daughter, but it made her miserably sick, and she begged them to let her quit. It must have been an agonizing decision, and it doesn't seem to have had anything to do with being superstitious. I would just hope they made the likely consequences clear to her.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
Ah, you spotted that I hadn't read the story. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Actually, if you read the story, the chemo had made her horribly ill, and she begged her parents not to make her continue. Doesn't seem to have had anything to do with religious preference per se. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Amish Girl Refuses Chemotheraphy
The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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Share blurted: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! Wow!! That's amazing!! You mean this story that was on Good Morning America this morning? http://gma.yahoo.com/gap-chemo-makes-amish-girls-leukemia-more-difficult-232308511--abc-news-health.html http://gma.yahoo.com/gap-chemo-makes-amish-girls-leukemia-more-difficult-232308511--abc-news-health.html On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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I have used the Google. - former President G. W. Bush ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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feste, I was doing a moveable feast yesterday! Thanksgiving lunch with my Mom and sister and her family then dinner with my half sister, my Dad and step Mom and that family. Today I am recuperating (-: After dinner we played a fun board game called Mexican Train Wreck. It's kind of a complicated dominoes that can be played by up to 7 people. Hope you all had a great time. Was CO there and in fine fettle? On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:38 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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Yes, CO was there and was her usual self. That woman has more empathy, for a wider range of people, than anyone I have ever known. It's completely unforced, like breathing. Quite remarkable. I wish I had some of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: feste, I was doing a moveable feast yesterday! Thanksgiving lunch with my Mom and sister and her family then dinner with my half sister, my Dad and step Mom and that family. Today I am recuperating (-: After dinner we played a fun board game called Mexican Train Wreck. It's kind of a complicated dominoes that can be played by up to 7 people. Hope you all had a great time. Was CO there and in fine fettle? On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:38 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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I know what you mean. Me too. She's an amazing soul. And fun at the same time! On Friday, November 29, 2013 11:09 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, CO was there and was her usual self. That woman has more empathy, for a wider range of people, than anyone I have ever known. It's completely unforced, like breathing. Quite remarkable. I wish I had some of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: feste, I was doing a moveable feast yesterday! Thanksgiving lunch with my Mom and sister and her family then dinner with my half sister, my Dad and step Mom and that family. Today I am recuperating (-: After dinner we played a fun board game called Mexican Train Wreck. It's kind of a complicated dominoes that can be played by up to 7 people. Hope you all had a great time. Was CO there and in fine fettle? On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:38 AM, feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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This NOT a conference call, Mr. Obama - Angela Merkel On 11/29/2013 10:01 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I have used the Google. - former President G. W. Bush ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
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Apples and oranges, Dick. Can't really compare the loftly self ambition and arrogance that characterizes Obama, with the demonic idiocy of George Bush. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: This NOT a conference call, Mr. Obama - Angela Merkel On 11/29/2013 10:01 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: I have used the Google. - former President G. W. Bush ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, make Google your friend! Missed you at the Thanksgiving dinner yesterday. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote: This morning when I opened Yahoo there was a news story in the top five saying that the family was fleeing the country! Now when I went to find that story, it's gone! On Friday, November 29, 2013 6:24 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: The land of the free. Free to die because of religious beliefs? Fair enough. Plenty of belief systems refuse blood transfusions. I've known TMers who say they would refuse any sort of transplant because they don't want someone else's karma. In fact, I've known people who died because they chose alternative healthcare. Alternative to things that work it would seem. This is why I say natural selection works on the religious too. Not cruel at all, or at least no crueller than it is for you and me. Maybe if I'd read article That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's a very cruel comment. I'm on the side of the parents. Since when does the state have the right to inflict chemotherapy on people who don't want it? The family has every right to choose an alternative method of treatment. This is supposed to be the land of the free. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yup, natural selection works on the religious too. Maybe they'll see the irony in that and stop being so silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: But the State of Ohio wants her to continue the treatment. It appears to me that the girl and her family have the right to forego the treatment if that is their religious preference to do so. http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html http://news.yahoo.com/ohio-amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-161240343.html
