[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness
For the record, indiff, I didn't say you were So-and-so, I said you sounded like So-and-so. And then when you threatened to out emptybill, I mentioned that this guy So-and-so had been thrown off the forum for outing somebody. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Let me clarify this issue again since even Judy seems to have gotten confused here. I'm using an pseudonym for a reason, to clearly post anonymously. You may recognize my energy, my writing style but you are not supposed to reveal my first name or any other details. But this dumb retarded motherfucker emptybill seems to have lot of trouble understanding it. He spouts and spews scriptures but lacks the normal maturity and intelligence of an adult and I have always given him a free pass in the past since I understand his disability. He thinks he can indulge in dishonesty like referring me as a troll, telling me that one cannot discuss Amma here, that I have been kicked off other forums and some other retarded bullshit. So I warned him not to use my first name, that I would do the same if he were to continue doing that. But he clearly lacks the intelligence to understand this simple rule of anonymity here on FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Let me clarify this issue again since even Judy seems to have gotten confused here. I'm using an acronym for a reason, to clearly post anonymously. You may recognize my energy, my writing style but you are not supposed to reveal my first name or any other details. But this dumb retarded motherfucker emptybill seems to have lot of trouble understanding it. He spouts and spews scriptures but lacks the normal maturity and intelligence of an adult and I have always given him a free pass in the past since I understand his disability. He thinks he can indulge in dishonesty like referring me as a troll, telling me that one cannot discuss Amma here, that I have been kicked off other forums and some other retarded bullshit. So I warned him not to use my first name, that I would do the same if he were to continue doing that. But he clearly lacks the intelligence to understand this simple rule of anonymity here on FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: You dumb mother-fucker I have a right to post anonymously. Please stop referring to me as Ravi. May be you think you have a great thing by figuring out who I am - OMG hilarious. Do you get it - you fucking retard? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Ravi! So good to have your insulting presence back on the forum. BTW - Do as you wish. Most of my personal info has already been revealed here. So how is Devi getting along with you? Just be aware that Rick doesn't like your kind of threats and will probably take action excising you from the forum. I don't think he will consider any intercession on my part since he will probably see your antics as anti-forum. Maybe Judy can plead with him on your behalf. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Mr. Bill - let me know if you want to play this game, I have your full name, email, wife's name, when you married, where you live, your FB profile all ready. (In fact it's very easy to find out - but whatever) Bill - next time just stick to the minor league where you belong. It doesn't matter how many scriptures you spew, constantly frothing at your mouth, almost choking on your parroted vomit - you are too emotionally, psychologically retarded to progress to the next level. OK empty baby? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: And who knows Mr. Bill I may also know your first and last name and may decide to out it. So learn when to keep your big fucking mouth shut, if you want to act like a retarded child find someone else. Get it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Oh my god, someone please help me find a partner for Mr. Bill, someone he can converse with, someone who is at the same intellectual, emotional, psychological maturity level as Mr. Bill (read someone as intellectually, emotionally, psychologically retarded as Mr. Bill). Mr. Bill - please be aware of the rules for anonymity here. Don't know who Ravioli is but either way it's not cool. Stop acting a retarded,needy child. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: You appear to be unable to submit any message other than an insult. It does not demonstrate a rational mind, as you claim, but rather an adolescent fixation. Not wonder you were easily fooled. You must really be angry at your own naiveté. You must have been kicked off of a number of forums to end up here. Maybe you are really just Ravioli. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: That's it? I
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness
Oh well hello authfriend that was exactly what I was letting emptybill know but he couldn't stop acting like a retarded child. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Outing people is a no-no on FFL. Ravi got thrown out for doing it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: And who knows Mr. Bill I may also know your first and last name and may decide to out it. So learn when to keep your big fucking mouth shut, if you want to act like a retarded child find someone else. Get it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Oh my god, someone please help me find a partner for Mr. Bill, someone he can converse with, someone who is at the same intellectual, emotional, psychological maturity level as Mr. Bill (read someone as intellectually, emotionally, psychologically retarded as Mr. Bill). Mr. Bill - please be aware of the rules for anonymity here. Don't know who Ravioli is but either way it's not cool. Stop acting a retarded,needy child. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: You appear to be unable to submit any message other than an insult. It does not demonstrate a rational mind, as you claim, but rather an adolescent fixation. Not wonder you were easily fooled. You must really be angry at your own naiveté. You must have been kicked off of a number of forums to end up here. Maybe you are really just Ravioli. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than braggadocio. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness
Yes I may sound like Ravi and I may be Ravi but I have a right to post anonymously and not reveal who I am. So hopefully this is the last time someone tries to discuss out loud my identity since it's clearly against the rules of this list. OMG - where the fucks are the moderators? Please someone warn emptybill and authfriend. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I'm telling you--have told you several times now--that if you want to get folks here to be on your side against Amma, you'll be more successful if you refrain from insulting them. Boy, you're sounding more and more like Ravi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Will do authfriend - as the need and context arises. But no one is condemned of course, you see I had to take a strong stand against the ignorance and dishonesty of these three posters - Rick, Buck and Share. As I said Buck and Share seemed pretty inane and harmless, Rick OTOH not. And astonishingly none of them surely has read the book. Of course your suggestions are welcome, you are asking me to adopt a civil, balanced tone and I have nothing against it, unfortunately my samskaras are such that I react very strongly against ignorance and dishonesty. Rather than dispute and challenge of my assessments of these three posters you seem to be making gratuitous, presumptuous remarks about my motivations and intentions which I don't agree with. Perhaps you feel I'm a newcomer and thereby should be deferential in my conversation with old timers here and adopt a civil rather than inflammatory dialogue? Either way I don't agree with that - each poster whether new or old here has an equal right, freedom to conduct a dialogue on topics of their interest here while following the rules of this list. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Here's a suggestion: Why don't you talk about Amma and how awful she is rather than about individuals on FFL and how awful they are?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness
Wow, your indifference is overwhelming! On Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:39 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote: I think Rick, Share and Buck all live in Fairfield no? Very fascinating this, Old country, mid-western white people rooting for some fat, ugly, stupid, manipulative Indian bitch. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Well, if this is the case, than clearly Rick is *not* "impervious to self-delusion" as Share states. That's quite the pedestal she's got him on. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > >Right Rick's opinions are very objective. > > >FYI Regardless of the disinterested persona he projects and manages to sell to >people and his other work elsewhere, Rick and his wife are entrenched in this >cult, much valued members of this cult. >Your opinions are not surprising, Cult 101, cultists rely on each other to >perpetuate their delusional beliefs. > > > > > >---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: >> >> >>dear not really indifferent, much of my thinking about this topic is based on >>knowing Rick in person. I think he's quite intelligent and impervious to self >>delusion so I choose to trust his input. About Amma and Gail I will never >>know the *facts* via my own direct observations so I rely on the observations >>of others I have found trustworthy. All the while knowing that I might be >>wrong. >> >> >>That's the thing I think. At any moment we might be wrong. All we can do is >>our best in any moment. If we're wrong, life will straighten us out one way >>or the other. I can live with that. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: >>> >>> >>>This is an extremely cultish, delusional thinking. >>> >>> >>>Here's an interview of Gail Tredwell on this book - open in Google Chrome >>>for English translation >>> >>> >>>http://spuren.ch/content/magazin/single-ansicht-nachrichten/datumamma-die-kehrseite-einer-heiligen.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace when all is said and done. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda wrote: 'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the ashram-? Should be at 46m28s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCU&feature=youtu.be&t=46m28s The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through 3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA website: http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183R&by=2011-2012 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183R&by=2010-2011 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Share Long Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that! On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, "emilymaenot@..." wrote: I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel compelled to write up my story for a post in the process). I think Rick or Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any drama. It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect it and her fully. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wr
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness
"Holy Hell" is a totally valuable book, because how often do we get an insider view from someone who was actually the personal assistant of such a big-name guru, and for two long decades? So often these gurus are two-faced hypocrites, presenting a smiling, benevolent persona to the general public, then changing into their true colors in private behind closed doors. People like Sathya Sai Baba (much of my two decades inside Indian ashrams were spent at his ashram in Puttaparthi) and Mata Amritanandamayi no doubt inspire their devotees through their idealistic teachings, but part of that inspiration always lines the guru's pockets with more wealth. The fact is, as revealed in Gail's book and backed by a number of others who were close to the 'Hugging Amma', Amritanandamayi is violent with uncontrollable anger and harshly beats her attendants, she has sex with some of her top Swamis (who control the finances of the ashram empire - and who are also rapists), she orders murders of various people who come in her way - including her own brother (several police cases were halted by the powerful ashram authorities), she has made her family members multimillionaires (and then goes on record to say she gave them nothing and it is all due to the success of their local fishing business!). So many details backing Gail's experiences in her book, are available online - including financial reports that show less than 10% of donations help the poor. So many parallels between these reports and what I personally experienced in sai baba's ashram! They are greedy rotten apples, preying on our naive devotion. :-(
