[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
There are certain people here who understand that deception goes to the heart of existence. In Indian traditions, we have a couple of examples. The main one being: The world is illusion, only Brahman is real, the world is Brahman. That is, everything is a lie through and through, and at the same time, truth. And from the Mahabharata: After King Drupada and King Virata were slain by Drona, Bhima, and Dhristadyumna fought him on the fifteenth day. Because Drona was very powerful and inconquerable having the irresistible brahmadanda, Krishna hinted to Yudhisthira that Drona would give up his arms if his son Ashwathama was dead. Bhima proceeded to kill an elephant named Ashwathama, and loudly proclaimed that Ashwathama was dead. Drona approached Yudhisthira to seek the truth of his son's death. Yudhisthira proclaimed 'Ashwathama Hatahath, naro va Kunjaro va', implying Ashwathama had died but he was nor sure whether it was a Drona's son or an elephant, The latter part of his proclamation (Naro va Kunjaro va) were drowned out by sound of the conch blown by Krishna intentionally (a different version of the story is that Yudhisthira pronounced the last words so feebly that Drona could not hear the word elephant). Prior to this incident, the chariot of Yudhisthira, proclaimed as Dharma raja (King of righteousness), hovered a few inches off the ground. After the event, the chariot landed on the ground as he lied. Goody goody spiritual types or crusaders try to ignore this and claim that this deception somehow does not spring from the eternal, which creates a logically unbalanced and delusionary version of existence by denying parity among the pairs of opposites such as good and evil; truth and falsehood. The peace that passes understanding is not a matter of good and evil or truth and lies, it is experiencing how these divergent characteristics are related within the entire range of experience.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE
Aye Aye Matey! I enjoy the dynamics on here, and the vast variety of topics that come up - I'll pretty much go for whatever is interesting - FFL reminds me of the crew aboard a small ship, on a wide river, sailing inevitably downstream, towards an unknown destination. The way ahead is always clear, with a steady current, so that movement is inevitable, regardless of what we do. We all run around like crazy, hauling on lines, pacing the deck, climbing the rigging, peering from the crow's nest, raising and dropping anchor, shouting orders, and spinning the wheel, attempting to influence our direction, and turn the ship. None of it makes a damned bit of difference, though it is fun to play a sailor on the sea of consciousness, once in awhile. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Now that was pretty funny. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Some people on FFL forget it's just a chat group. That should be the mantra of Fairfield Life: IT'S JUST A CHAT GROUP The TM advanced technique version would be: GET OVER IT, NAMAH, NAMAH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg :-)
