[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation

2013-10-22 Thread authfriend 
Hilarious. Barry actually thinks he's getting me by citing Quackwatch contra 
TM and MA-V.
 

 How many more times is he going to fall painfully on his fat ass before he 
gets control of himself? This is the fifth time in the past couple of days, 
ever since he got caught making up stuff to get Buck.
 

 While we're at it, let's take a look at another such spectacular fall back in 
August of 2012. Barry wrote:
 

 For those who got the gist of the post I made the other day about the POM 
Wonderful lawsuit and what it implied about the state of science (most drug 
studies being paid for by the people who will profit from positive results 
being reported by the researchers), here are a few links to show that I was far 
from alone in being concerned.
 

 Just How Scientific is Science-Based Medicine Really?
 Nearly 90 Percent of Cancer Studies Cannot be Replicated
 
http://articles.MERCOLA.COM/sites/articles/archive/2012/07/12/drug-companies-on-scientific-fraud.aspx
 
 The mainly unreported large number of retractions in scientific studies
 

 #317075, posted August 15, 2012.
 

 Exactly one week later:
 

 ...The second example is the most egregious I have seen since I've been on 
this bad science reporting soapbox. It comes from the worst offender in the 
United States on this score, one Dr. Mercola. This guy is infamous for using 
scare tactics, bad science, and even worse tweaking of good science to 
promote his practice, his books, and his often-dangerous theories, but this one 
just takes the cake
 

 #317736, posted August 22, 2012.
 

 OOOpsie.


 

 Barry wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
 
 So it's all about Mercola? :-D :-D :-D
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijWGUKsK9pg 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijWGUKsK9pg 
 
 The folks from Quackwatch:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-L9GS6Z0k 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo-L9GS6Z0k 

 Now, now...don't knock Quackwatch. Here's what they
think of Maharishi Ayurveda:
 http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1query=Maharishi+Ayurveda 
http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1query=Maharishi+Ayurveda 

As for skepdic, here are what they think of TM:

http://www.google.com/custom?domains=skepdic.comq=Transcendental+Meditationsa=Searchsitesearch=skepdic.comclient=pub-3542920166946725forid=1ie=ISO-8859-1oe=ISO-8859-1cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3AFF%3BLC%3AFF%3BT%3A00%3BGFNT%3AFF%3BGIMP%3AFF%3BFORID%3A1%3Bhl=en
 
http://www.google.com/custom?domains=skepdic.comq=Transcendental+Meditationsa=Searchsitesearch=skepdic.comclient=pub-3542920166946725forid=1ie=ISO-8859-1oe=ISO-8859-1cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3AFF%3BLC%3AFF%3BT%3A00%3BGFNT%3AFF%3BGIMP%3AFF%3BFORID%3A1%3Bhl=en
 

and Maharishi Ayurveda:
 
http://www.google.com/custom?domains=skepdic.comq=Maharishi+Ayurvedasa=Searchsitesearch=skepdic.comclient=pub-3542920166946725forid=1ie=ISO-8859-1oe=ISO-8859-1cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3AFF%3BLC%3AFF%3BT%3A00%3BGFNT%3AFF%3BGIMP%3AFF%3BFORID%3A1%3Bhl=en
 
http://www.google.com/custom?domains=skepdic.comq=Maharishi+Ayurvedasa=Searchsitesearch=skepdic.comclient=pub-3542920166946725forid=1ie=ISO-8859-1oe=ISO-8859-1cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3AFF%3BLC%3AFF%3BT%3A00%3BGFNT%3AFF%3BGIMP%3AFF%3BFORID%3A1%3Bhl=en
 

Now that we've established their credibility, it puts their take
on Mercola into a better perspective, yes?  :-)  :-)  :-)


  On 10/22/2013 08:20 AM, authfriend@... wrote:
 
  More information on Mercola:
 
  http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html 
  http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html 
 
  http://www.skepdic.com/news/newsletter1106.html 
  http://www.skepdic.com/news/newsletter1106.html 
 
   http://tinyurl.com/msm2y9g http://tinyurl.com/msm2y9g 
 
 
 
  *Share wrote:*
 
  Dr. Mercola explains Vit D as the *universal flu vaccine* AND gives 
  useful info about the various flu vaccines currently available.
  http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/22/flu-vaccine-effectiveness.aspx?e_cid=20131022Z1_DNL_art_1utm_source=dnlutm_medium=emailutm_content=art1utm_campaign=20131022Z1
   
  http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/10/22/flu-vaccine-effectiveness.aspx?e_cid=20131022Z1_DNL_art_1utm_source=dnlutm_medium=emailutm_content=art1utm_campaign=20131022Z1

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation

2013-10-21 Thread authfriend 
Attagirl. FWIW, if you haven't had a shot in a while (years), my experience
 has been that they've gotten much better at it. Not necessarily every last
 shot-giver, but I'm frequently amazed at how almost imperceptible it is.
 Thinner needles these days, maybe. (I know it's at least partly the idea
 of the shot for many people; I'm fortunate that it doesn't happen to bother
 me unless it actually hurts.)
 

 emilymaenot wrote:
  Yes, I always forget that.  Maybe next year I'll be less self-centered and 
  will have gotten over my fear of
  needles. :)   

 
I wrote:
 But always remember that when you get a flu shot, it's not just
 to protect yourself, it's to protect others as well:
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

 
emilymaenot wrote:
Nothing.  Get one if you like, from an accredited place.  I worked for a 
company once that offered us all the flu shot (many years ago when it was 
*really in vogue* to get one), and I was one of the employees that took them up 
on it.  Came to find out,  that the guy was a huckster and that was his 
Christmas con.  He was featured in the paper and on the news and that is how us 
employees found out.  I never did find out what he shot us up with, but it must 
have been safe.  I haven't had a flu shot since :).  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  So, what is wrong with getting flu shots?
 -Buck

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Flu, shots, and the Dome Meditation

2013-10-21 Thread authfriend 
Buck wrote:
 
  Okay that is an excellent scientific reason [herd-immuniity] to help with 
  the Fairfield meditating
  community and the Dome numbers. But, is there really a significant good 
  scientific reason to not
  get flu shots? [Some people claim we are getting over-shot and it screws up 
  the immune system
  giving rise to so many modern hyper immune system malfunctions.]
 

 There's no good evidence for this or any other objection to getting a flu shot 
(unless you're allergic to eggs or there are other individual 
considerations--check with your doctor to make sure). There's a ridiculous 
amount of anti-vax hysteria going around among the credulous and ignorant. Most 
of it is pretty easily debunkable if you just check with reputable Web sites, 
like those for the CDC or NIH or Web MD.
 

  Give flu shots anyway to everyone going to the Domes to help keep the 
  aggregate Dome 
  meditation numbers high as they can Be?

 

 Well, to keep Fairfield residents generally as healthy as they can be, of 
course, since vaccinated Dome-goers will contribute to herd immunity in the 
larger community. But the Domes are probably excellent places to be exposed to 
the flu.
 

 Also crucially important, of course, is to wash the hands frequently.
 

 Might be a good idea to have folks standing at the doors to squirt folks' 
hands with one of the liquid hand sanitizers as they enter.
 

  Buck, stuck at home meditating.
 

 Ann was right, BTW, the flu shot wouldn't have done anything to keep you from 
getting the cold or bronchitis or pneumonia. You were right to stay home, 
though, once you'd caught the cold. Bronchitis and pneumonia both can be 
contagious as well.
 

 Older folk, BTW, should get the pneumonia vaccine. I think you only need it 
once rather than seasonally. That might have kept your bronchitis from 
progressing to pneumonia.