Judy, here is what I understand: you used the phrases enlightened days and
genuine enlightenment with regards to Robin. Then you said that Robin said that
enlightenment reached via Eastern systems is a delusion because ontological
union between God and human is not possible.
Are these
As I've already told you, Share, it really doesn't help just to repeat your
misunderstanding over and over. You have never bothered to engage with what Ann
and I have told you.
I'll try it one more time: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is,
according to Robin, the real, genuine
Judy, this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and
delusionary at the same time?
Judy wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin,
the real, genuine state of enlightenment.
...
It
imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of
As I said: Once you figure it out, get back to me. It shouldn't be that
difficult, even for you.
Judy, this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and
delusionary at the same time?
Judy wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin,
the
On 2/11/2014 9:19 AM, Share Long wrote:
this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and
delusionary at the same time?
According to Robin, most people are in a dream state and mistake it for
the real. What you have to do according to Robin is wake up from the
dream. The Adi
Thanks Richard, I understand this. Using dreams is a good way to explain it.
Dreams are real in their own context. But they are delusions in a larger
context.
Do you think that's what Robin meant about his enlightenment?
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:34 AM, Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 7:08 AM, Share Long wrote:
ontological union between God and human is not possible.
When Robin experienced enlightenment he said that he floated in a kind
of absolute bliss - he was able to witness his body move, as his
individuality carried out its natural actions, but the
On 2/11/2014 10:39 AM, Share Long wrote:
Dreams are real in their own context. But they are delusions in a
larger context.
Dreams are real while we are dreaming, but unreal in the absolute sense.
Dreams are not illusions in the sense of not being real because we do
have dreams. The magic
Xeno doesn't read the posts he counts here. If he did, he'd realize that most
of Barry's posts were thoroughly dishonest attacks on me or Robin; and that in
addition to refuting Barry's dishonesty, a substantial number of my posts were
dealing with a discussion our Stevie can't seem to let go
Judy, I did not denigrate Robin. I called your phrases enlightened days and
genuine enlightenment inaccurate because you said that Robin said that
enlightenment, including his, via Eastern systems is a delusion because
ontological union between God and human is not possible.
On Monday,
What, I, Xeno did here, using the old Yahoo Groups interface, was tally those
posts. They were not read, so Judy is correct about that point. I did not
mention or was interested in what the posts were. It was a mere collection of
statistical information. Original posts defined here as all posts
Of course you denigrated Robin. Robin claimed he had been enlightened, and
you're insisting he wasn't.
I've explained why your logic is, to say the least, faulty several times, as
has Ann. It really doesn't help your case that you keep repeating your
misunderstanding without ever addressing
If Xeno had read the posts, he'd know those two posts weren't original; I
simply changed the subject heading to a more appropriate one for what's been
going on here. I had thought Xeno was referring to the two that were
original--more or less; they were actually reposts with a bit of
Judy, later Robin said that his state of enlightenment was actually, to use
Ann's words, a state of delusion. I'm merely repeating what he himself has
said. Or what you and Ann have said that he said.
On Monday, February 10, 2014 5:45 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:
Of course you denigrated Robin. Robin claimed he had been enlightened, and
you're insisting he wasn't.
I've explained why your logic is, to say the least, faulty several times, as
has Ann. It really doesn't help your case that
You're repeating his (or my or Ann's) words out of context and without
understanding, Share. You're not really trying to understand; you just want to
find a way to bash him.
Judy, later Robin said that his state of enlightenment was actually, to use
Ann's words, a state of delusion. I'm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
anyone knows how many learned TM and how many actively practicing?
I also like a chart by Guru and number of followers if
such thing exists..
anyway, I think it's fair to say MMY has the most so far.
Who is second
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