Right on Buck & all
In a message dated 12/22/13 14:42:57 Eastern Standard Time, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com writes: Whoa, Spiritually 'We die as we live'. This is actually a good reason that we should not let people be unkind to each other here on FFL, “Woe is they”. You know, friends should not let friends be unkind. For good spiritual reasons we really should do more to keep people from being unkind here with one another. I am entirely in favor of enforcing strictly the yahoo-groups guidelines against unkindness on FFL. This certainly should be an example spiritual place for strict moderation and strict moderation should certainly be the norm here on FFL especially. -Buck Of our spiritual subtle system energetics, “Hopefully we haven't torn things up too much in our life-times and weighted down things with too many knots in the fabric of the subtle systems and we are settled and straightened out before leaving this life. A life well lived.” -Buck in the Dome Buck> wrote: “A life well lived.” Yep, and evidently as we leave.. “One dies as one lives”. It is interesting to see. The subtle-body energetics are so such like this old adage. If people would only take the time to explore and visit this particular spiritual area of subtle systems before they would leave planet earth it would be time well spent and they should really then come to a sober up in life before they leave while they got still a human form . Life spiritual certainly as a birthright is for the living while you have it. Make good use of it for good whiles you got it. Like, even if anyone would live in Fairfield, Iowa or in some place like Paris, France then take the time to come meditate in the Domes; The age old message, forewarned is to be well-armed. -Buck in the Dome By forgetting your nature, you get submerged in the sea of sorrow. "Just once take a look and ask "who am I?" What ever you have experienced in samsara (human life), all that is different from you. Body, mind, breath, and so on -all these things you see as your own. It is said, "my body, my mind, my intellect, my breath." Clearly, you are master of these things you consider as your self, but your existence is different from them, like your house, or your temple. The temple is yours; but you are not the temple. Similarly, body, mind, intellect, breath, and so on- all these things belong to you, but they are not you. You are different from them. You are Sat, Chit, Ananda -being, consciousness, bliss- a ray of Paramatma. But due to lack of discrimination, due to ignorance, you have built up such a strong association with the body-mind-intellect and so forth that you have started thinking these things to be your true form. -Swami Brahmananda Saraswati Share, you might like this: The Causal body - originally Karana-Sarira - is a Yogic and Vedantic concept that was adopted and modified by Theosophy and from the latter made its way into the general New Age movement and contemporary western esotericism. It generally refers to the highest or innermost subtle body that veils the true soul. -Wiki It is also where strong thought energetic forms can reside that may lift out and go forward embedded with the light body of the soul as like a bundle from this life carrying a mark in the works. I like Wgm's description here of interpenetrating energetic form to describe the flow of the energy bodies. That is useful and very good as a way of looking at it. Activated in the human form they drape as flowing fabric like fields. In life we use it all and might give dents to the fields that can interrupt things in life and beyond too. And then it is in the realm of spiritual practice as works in life here that pat things down and smooth out the frays. Hopefully we haven't torn things up too much in our life-times and weighted down things with too many knots in the fabric of the subtle systems and we are settled and straightened out before leaving this life. A life well lived. -Buck in the Dome sharelong60 wrote: One healer who visits FF twice a year says he's never seen so many top heavy causal bodies as he sees here. Lots of spiritual refinement, but ungrounded! On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:28 PM, wgm4u wrote: The subtler you get the more tenuous forms become until they become arupa, or formless consciousness and light. The cut off is the mid-causal above which all things are formless, expanded, consciousness and light. There is no need for forms at those higher levels. Most people's causal bodies are very undeveloped but are apparently a glorious thing to see in an enlightened soul. All the bodies interpenetrate from the physical within which we have the etheric or pranic body, within that is the astral and within that is the causal body, beyond these bodies, all 'bodies' are shared in common one is fast merging towards the Buddhic or unity of all things. However one can still incarnate at any of the lower planes at will, like Jesus Christ demonstrated. That's why MMY calls the Devas (shining ones) creative intelligences of nature. sharelong60@...> wrote: Thanks, wgm. How is the causal body different from the astral body? On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:28 AM, wgm4u wrote: Yes, absolutely, the astral aura and world is supposedly full of color, your aura can be a beautiful pink (love), yellow (intelligence) and even purple or violet (devotion), OR it can be a hideous mixture of browns (greed/lust), greys (depression) and black (hate, evil), depending. sharelong60@...> wrote: wgm, one site I visited equated Kama rupa with the astral body. Does that jive with what you know? On Monday, December 16, 2013 6:46 PM, wgm4u wrote: Kama=Desire, Rupa=form; i.e. the form of desire or the desire body! Usually referred to in the after death state where the unfulfilled desires are left in what the Catholics call 'purgatory'. This kama-rupa (as opposed to arupa or formless) is the suppository of all your worldly desires, if evil it takes on a hideous form and is attracted to hellish conditions, if good the outcome is happiness, even heaven or what the theosophists call Devachan. Noted often in Theosophy and Vedic literature. http://www.katinkahesselink.net/devachan.htm sharelong60@...> wrote: Richard, what do you mean by Kama-rupa? Richard J. Williams <punditster@...> wrote: Apparently all the TM mantras are feminine aspect mantras. There is no Shiva without Shakti. MMY fully supports the yantra as a golden dome, as pure vastu - an enclosure to realize pure consciousness; vastu is almost pure Shakti symbolism, and represents the universal womb. MMY is a proponent of yantra and Indian vastu and that's why the golden dome has an east-facing entrance with a nice fence around it - east is the traditional location of Kama-rupa. They don't call it "Mother" India for nothing. A 'yantra' can be any image, two-dimensional or three-dimensional. Yantras are tools for facilitating yogic enstasis, that is, a meditation that is transcendental. In tantric yoga, there are mental techniques and tools, such as mantra and yantra, asana, puja, etc., used as aids to meditation. A yantra is any design that symbolizes a void with the bindu at the center. Shakti is in fact, listed as a progenitor in the Guru Dev puja, right after Naryana. "Shaktism's focus on the Divine Feminine does not imply a rejection of Masculine or Neuter divinity. However, both are deemed to be inactive in the absence of Shakti. As set out in the first line of Adi Shankara's renowned Shakta hymn, Saundaryalahari (c. 800 CE)..." Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaktism On 12/15/2013 6:38 PM, yifuxero@... wrote: Interesting, but MMY discarded this aspect of Devi worship; thus not following in the footsteps of Guru Dev. I've not encountered any instances of MMY promoting Devi worship, Sri Yantra or Sri Chakra pujas, or for that matter, the knowledge of Tantric symbols, or any related practices, aside silent repetition of the mantras. No japa or worship of the Sri Yantra, or the Lalitasahasranama. . ... OTOH, Ramana Maharshi - even though regarded as a "pure Advaitin", had regular daily Sri Chakra pujas conducted at his Ashram. So go figure....MMY is a Sabateur.....effectively putting an end to Devi worship in that particular lineage. ... ... Om O
