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Xeno,
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anartaxius@... wrote:
The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe
came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic
Xeno,
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Xeno,
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The reason I posted
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Xeno,
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Xeno,
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It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them.
Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often
have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships. As I said
to Ann earlier, about you, no one really wants to be an asshole
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It would be much better if your words didn't have such a hollow ring to them.
Why so lonely and angry? FYI, those who have suffered emotional abuse often
have a difficult time sustaining personal and social relationships.
jr_esq,
The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe
came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic mind. I did not
mention cosmic mind. I took the position for the post that there is no such
thing. The question of how things came to be seems to
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Barry,
You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't
handle the infinite wonder of reality.
Your statement appears
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Barry,
You said: My version is: God
There is no such thing as 'cosmic mind', cause there is no
one to think of any thoughts.
If 'beingness' or consciousness is like electricity, then
'beings' or entities are like light bulbs. I think Ramana
gave that analogy.
The rules that govern the universe seems more like a
computer
Xeno,
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The reason I posted the link is that it took the position that the universe
came from nothing, is essentially nothing. No idea of cosmic mind. I did not
mention cosmic mind. I took the position for the post that there is
John, I really like the Thomas Merton quote. I think it's a tidy and yet almost
poetic way to get around the problem of anthropomorphism. Which btw, I think
the atheists have too (-:
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Xeno,
My reply is
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:
In the bottom up scenario, the universe somehow comes into being by the
unfolding of a few simple autonomous rules and axioms. Both scenarios have
problems. Science tends to use the second scenario, that somehow, some random
It's important to note, once again, that the anthropomorphic view through
time refers to the time before Aristotle. From then on the abstract views of
classical theism prevailed among theologians up until very recent times, when
some theologians have begun to propose more anthropomorphic
Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that was
unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and
therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct opposite (she
would lie to me about the results) -- for the first twenty years
Share,
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I really like the Thomas Merton quote. I think it's a tidy and yet almost
poetic way to get around the problem of anthropomorphism. Which btw, I think
the atheists have too (-:
It also keeps some human beings
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Thanks, Ann. Yes, my mother had an incredibly negative story about me, that
was unceasingly perpetuated, and spread, in the face of tests I took, and
therapists I saw, who were telling her, and reporting, the direct
Thanks, again, Ann - Agreed, life *can* be tough. ...and a picture is worth a
thousand words, so here is a recent selfie.
I hope, sincerely, that it reassures anyone reading my recent postings:
https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r
https://app.box.com/s/aycqjeqd7tl2mfj0l86r
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Also, does anyone have the 1-800 number, for the, 'Hair In A Can' folks,
please? I checked Amazon, but
all I could find was this crap:
https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5
https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5
and the other option I found, scrounging around, in the back of my
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Thanks, again, Ann - Agreed, life *can* be tough. ...and a picture is worth a
thousand words, so here is a recent selfie.
I hope, sincerely, that it reassures anyone reading my recent postings:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Also, does anyone have the 1-800 number, for the, 'Hair In A Can' folks,
please? I checked Amazon, but
all I could find was this crap:
https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5
https://app.box.com/s/d34i8hmhxpj5pg51kpr5
...damn...*such* a selection! YOU choose...though I *am* drawn to the Liz
number (or is that Katy?), much more than either, 'Raggedy Annie', or, 'The
Newt'...But, if I was still working in an office, it'd be, 'The Newt', fer sure
- though I might try for the wig, AND hair in a can, to achieve
--- John jr_esq@... wrote:
Bhairitu,
IMO, human beings already have the physiology to inherit the earth, if not
the universe. The key to this inheritance is the ability to gain samadhi
and to maintain it at the various lower states of consciousness. A sloka in
the Shiva
, 2014 11:16 AM
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Yes, I love the idea that we are insignificant specks that won't even be
noticed by of the rest of the universe. Life on Earth will be a light that
flared briefly before returning to darkness, the second law
Nature throws a wide range of mutations into the
environment. Many fail to make it, in the process, but some
always survive.
This gives evolution the versatility and the flexibility to
deal with the capricious and erratic, fluctuations in the
environment.
The tremendous wastage in the
Not classical theists.
The tremendous wastage in the evolutionary process should make the ID
theorists and Theists realise that their
beliefs are bullshit.
You are talking about the impersonalistic theists.
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Actually, classical theists (about the only theologians who were around of
old) would have been wowed by the latest cosmological knowledge, but they
wouldn't have felt their theism to be the least
I am talking about what are commonly known as classical theists, the mainstream
theologians from Aristotle to very recent times.
You are talking about the impersonalistic theists.
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Actually, classical theists (about the only theologians who were
Could you cite some examples?
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Not classical theists.
The tremendous wastage in the evolutionary process should make the ID
theorists and Theists realise that their
beliefs are bullshit.
Salyavin,
You are making arguments against a theory. We'll find the true answer when
the theory is proved correct or incorrect.
Could you elaborate on that please?
Classical theists say that God wills the good of
the creatures. Human beings, however, do not
always will their own good, or the good of other
people. In those cases, on the classical view, God
brings it about that people
Jedi,
How do you know that you're saying is correct and that MMY is wrong? Who is
the source of your information?
And, no, I'm not the old do.rflx.
What you quoted from MMY contradicts all that I read about
yoga and philosophy by other authors, some of them much
older than MMY. In samadhi, you trancend everything
including spatial dimensions.
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Jedi,
How do you know that you're saying is correct and
Dude, can you press the message history button at the bottom of the reply box
before you post or I won't know what post you are commenting on.
But whatever it was, making arguments against a theory is fine, especially if
you know something about it or know where someone else has gone wrong
One more time: Classical theists do not believe in God as a being, good or
bad. They believe in God as Beingness Itself.
Could you elaborate on that please?
Classical theists say that God wills the good of
the creatures. Human beings, however, do not
always will their
Jedi,
If you're a TMer you'll understand transcendental consciousness can be
achieved and experienced by anyone. And that one can experience TC along with
the waking, dreaming and sleeping consciousness.
If you read the Shiva Sutras, the slokas are also talking about the same
Bhairitu,
You said: But then their is Jr's interest in finding other humanoid species
to communicate with. What about learning to communicate with the other
intelligent species we have right here on earth? We know that dolphins and
whales are very intelligent and I don't think they are
Xeno,
You said: The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to
explain, or at least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a
god. I debate the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'.
It takes a mind to conceive of space and time. A 'knower'
Barry,
You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't handle the
infinite wonder of reality.
Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know
what is reality?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:
Barry,
You said: My version is: God is a crutch for those who can't handle the
infinite wonder of reality.
Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know
what is reality?
John, Barry loves to
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Barry,
You said: My version is: God
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