The issue stems from the recent decision of the Congress government to
declare a lockout on the Jyotirmath premises in an apparent bid to oust
Swami Vasudevanand, a move allegedly chalked out by Swami Swaroopanand.Soon
after the lockout on February 16 this year, Swami Vasudevanand got a
reprieve
So, let's review what we know about the Jyotirmath succession controversy:
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Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, of Jyotirmath
I've also pointed out previously that the mere possession of the Jyotirmath
property in the succession dispute has no great bearing on who the real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams wrote:
So, let's review what we know about the Jyotirmath succession
controversy:
[Inline image 2]
Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, of Jyotirmath
Let's not.
Instead, let's ask why a bunch of people who claim that the TM tradition
they're
On 1/14/2014 9:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
*/Instead, let's ask why a bunch of people who claim that the TM
tradition they're part of is not religious are so interesting in the
succession intrigues of a *purely* religious tradition in India. /*
It looks like you and Buck are the only bunch of
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams wrote:
So, let's review what we know about the Jyotirmath succession controversy:
Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati, of Jyotirmath
Let's not.
Instead, let's ask why a
Richard, did you see merudanda's chart?! He seems to know quite a lot about the
situation. Are you questioning the accuracy of the info in the chart?
On Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:42 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
wrote:
Let's put it this way: nobody here knows anything
Let's put it this way: nobody here knows anything about the
Shankaracharyas. The only member of this list that knows
anything about the Shankaracharyas is Vaj, and he's no longer
posting anything.
On 1/12/2014 6:29 AM, Share Long wrote:
...did you see merudanda's chart?! He
Ok, Richard, thanks for clarifying and Happy January 12 to you and Rita.
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:05 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
wrote:
Let's put it this way: nobody here knows anything about the
Shankaracharyas. The only member of this list that knows
*The Fighting Ascetics of India*
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View looking north to Barsana from Radiance - Friday Mt on right
Apparently, the Swami Prakashanand Saraswati gave Robert Kropinsky a
'letter of introduction' in order to get an audience with the Swami
Swaroopanand at Guru Dev's birthday
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Ok, Richard, thanks for clarifying and Happy January 12 to you and Rita.
What is January 12th?
On Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:05 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@...
wrote:
Let's put it this way: nobody here
In addition to being the 12th day of the 1st month, it is also MMY's birthday.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Ok, Richard, thanks for clarifying and Happy January 12 to you and Rita.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:
In addition to being the 12th day of the 1st month, it is also MMY's birthday.
Oh, okay, thanks. Then why is Share wishing everyone except MMY happy January
12? I thought you were supposed to wish the guy with the
Really, Maharishi's meditators should be at the next Shankaracharya
peace-conference between all these upstarts and contenders to bring some
bonafide spiritual coherence to things there. The whole thing is a joke if we
are not included.
-Buck of the Dome
---In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Really, Maharishi's meditators should be at the next Shankaracharya
peace-conference between all these upstarts and contenders to bring some
bonafide spiritual coherence to things there.
You mean like the bonafide spiritual coherence demonstrated by
So bring it up with Bevan and see how receptive his is on the idea.
On Sat, 1/11/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On 1/11/2014 6:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
So bring it up with Bevan and see how receptive
his is on the idea.
It looks like MJ didn't get the memo about including the quotes in his
reply. Go figure.
Yep, you know, send a team of TM meditators, a deputation who hold current Dome
Badges to represent Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati in the Shankaracharya
Peace- proceedings.
Really, Maharishi's meditators should be at the next Shankaracharya
peace-conference between all these
Om, does Nandkishore have any traction in the vacuum of Girish Varma being
jailed?
“Nandkishore Brahmachari, the yogi's closest assistant”
http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/news/weekly/rnandkishore.shtml
http://minet.org/www.trancenet.net/news/weekly/rnandkishore.shtml
Is it time to bring
He did, actually. Click on Show Message History and you'll see what he was
responding to.
You, on the other hand, didn't click on the three dots when you wrote your
post, so all of what Michael had quoted in his post is gone from this one.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Nandkishore, does he give satsanga? Girish Varma seems to have an ashram for
himself, that presumably our TM money built? Is Nandkishore teaching
otherwise?
Om, does Nandkishore have any traction in the vacuum of Girish Varma being
jailed?
“Nandkishore Brahmachari, the yogi's
, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 11, 2014, 3:27 PM
He did,
actually. Click
The Shankaracharyas are Hindu authorities - sort of like four (4) pontiffs
among the smarta-s. What is the position of the TMO towards the authority of
the Shankaracharyas since the TMO is technically not a Hindoo organization?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
On 1/11/2014 9:27 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
He did, actually. Click on Show Message History and
you'll see what he was responding to.
Apparently MJ didn't get my memo about including quotes with his
replies. Let's review the internet protocol:
1. Use right angle brackets to indicate
On 1/11/2014 10:45 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
I use the old version of yahoo, rather than the
newer version and I no longer visit the FFL yahoo
group page - all the posts come to me via the
yahoo mail, and the old version automatically
includes the message I am replying to.
See if you
On 1/11/2014 1:13 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
The Shankaracharyas are Hindu authorities - sort of
like four (4) pontiffs among the smarta-s. What is
the position of the TMO towards the authority of the
Shankaracharyas since the TMO is technically not a
Hindoo organization?
All the
On 1/11/2014 8:31 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
does Nandkishore have any traction in the vacuum
of Girish Varma being jailed?
According to my sources. Nandikishore fully supports the VHP and the
Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati.
In an interview with Robert Kropinsky the Swami
Apparently Thunderbird doesn't allow you to understand common
English. So I'll repeat my question ...
What is the position of the TMO towards the authority of the Shankaracharyas
since the TMO is technically not a Hindoo organization?
Does anyone on the list know the views of the
On 1/11/2014 7:52 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
...send a team of TM meditators, a deputation who hold current
Dome Badges to represent Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati in
the Shankaracharya Peace- proceedings.
Dear Empty and FFL Moderators, Empty; your thunderbird quip here is an
incredibly unkind slight of a fellow poster here likely in violence to the
Yahoo-groups guidelines about unkindness on Yahoo-groups. Who could possibly
want to reply to it?
However, evidently there is some enmeshment
Let's put it this way: nobody here knows anything about the
Shankaracharyas. The only member of this list that knows anything about the
Shankaracharyas is Vaj, and he's no longer posting anything. All you need
to know is that Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati is the successor to SBS at
Jyotirmath and
All of these standard of credentialing should come down to be of use in
selecting the next Shankaracharya and the next too. Everyone else should step
aside. We got to have standards and not just have any jack-ass sitting on that
seat. Like, what is the Holy Tradition coming to, Girish Varma?
I am concerned about Girish Varma, Will he not make it in person to the Jan
12th celebration?
merudanda wrote:
Girish Chandra Varma, has been shifted to jail hospital Phopal, India because
of diabetic (he is a diabetic and takes insulin) and high blood pressure (his
car will be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote:
Girish Chandra Varma, has been shifted to jail hospital Phopal, India
because of diabetic (he is a diabetic and takes insulin) and high blood
pressure (his car will be examined for rape evidence).
So, does our TM Shankaracharya of Jyotirmaṭha: Vāsudevānanda Sarasvatī have a
controlling hand or thumb over any of the Estate of our Maharishiji in India?
And, the character of this guy? Does he give darshan or just sit in the chair?
Is he scholarly and can give Satsanga? Can teach and advise
On 1/2/2014 11:05 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
TM is a joke compared to the centuries long tradition
and knowledge of the Shakaracharya tradition.
Actually when you think about it, MMY's TMO which gave rise to the
Deepakage and the Sri Sri, makes MMY style meditation worldwide look
like a towering
wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 10, 2014, 4:14 PM
On 1/2/2014 11:05 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
TM is a joke
On 1/10/2014 11:51 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Both Marshy and the current contenders for the
Shankaracharya throne fucked up what could have
been a good thing
The Jyotirmath seat was specified in a will left by SBS. The will of SBS
was not disputed. The VHP fully supported Guru Dev's
On 1/10/2014 10:02 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
So, does our TM Shankaracharya of Jyotirmatha: Vasudevananda
Sarasvati have a controlling hand or thumb over any of the
Estate of our Maharishiji in India?
According to what I've read, Swami Vasudevanand Sarswati fully supports
MMY's
] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 10, 2014, 10:35 PM
On 1/10/2014 11:51 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Both Marshy and the current contenders
On 1/10/2014 6:22 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
if the will wasn't contested, where the hell do you
think the other contenders came from?
The SBS will wasn't contested in a court of law. Swami Vasudevananda
Saraswati is currently the *sole representative Guru Dev's lineage*,
according to
Just checking on bullet feature function!
Interesting, isn't?
In the online view there are no bullet to see-makes the text confusing,
unclear. in the online-edit feature bullets are easy to see, text lucid,
clear, disposed let'see:
But humanly interesting, complex with its relation to
Do have to add this to Jack Kerouac's in vain list?
Bullet list in FFL
in vain
The stars in the sky
In vain
The tragedy of Hamlet
In vain
The key in the lock
In vain
The sleeping mother
In vain
The lamp in the corner
In vain
The lamp in the corner unlit
Gurus / ŚhaNkarācāryas appointments and list of will (the right to choose
his successor from among his disciples) Acknowledged(suggestion) by the
other ŚhaNkarācāryas Involvement of two bodies external to JyotirmaTha
proper:Kāśī Vidvat PariSad and the Akhila Bhāratīya
Bullets do not work that way
Bullet bouncing off the gun
and ruining the gunman's day.
Bullet,
You there, I here,
With just the door ajar
That oceans are,
And prayer,
And that pale sustenance,
Despair!
..
Someone lurking through the door ajar?
A little breathless frightened star?
My ears are
santa merudanda,
there are air molecules touching
my skin and they are touched by other air
molecules stretching out in
all directions molecules touching
molecules til your skin too is touched.
See, just a few million layers of air molecules
between here and there, but then whizzing through
The Competing Shankaracharyas . .
Aggregating what we know:
NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society,
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet --
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of
Om, the crucial meeting? To help with this they should receive a delegation of
TM'ers. A delegation of long-term spiritually experienced meditators of the
Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.
The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.
The
Evidently this should not be left to Indians alone to satisfy this large
spiritual work.
Om, the crucial meeting? To help with this they should receive a delegation of
TM'ers. A delegation of long-term spiritually experienced meditators of the
Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.
Yes absolutely, to add real spiritual coherence and depth to matters of
adjudicating this confliction they really ought to receive a delegation of the
long-term spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.
About the Fighting Ascetics of India
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 8:42 PM
Yes
absolutely, to add real spiritual coherence and depth to
matters of
adjudicating this confliction
My dear B.i.D. please allow me to smile a little and ask you do hold your
non-existing horses- missionary horses you do not have. Have you taken
Bhairitus warning into account, too?
BTW:What meeting are you talking about? From where and from whom you got that
information?
What you are
Correction even earlier:
What you are quoting is from Wednesday, October 7, 1998 to be precise!see:
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
It is time to modernize this Math fragmentation. The committee should chose
Shankaracharyas on the basis of modern standards of neurophysiology at the
least. Then also as there is a face value of enough cultivated shakti as like
saints of old as real luminaries were and then certainly too they
Om my ohm my good guy Buck -bug from you who knows all the healer and sadhus in
and out Fairfield -comes this desire to know...
To summarize, the three competing Jyotirmaṭha lineages in a chart:
1. Brahmānanda Sarasvatī (1941-1953; revived the maṭha after a vacancy of 165
years)
2.
Om my ohm my good guy Buck -bug from you who knows all the healer and sadhus,
ammas-and-mammas in and out Fairfield -comes this desire to know...
To summarize, the three competing Jyotirmaṭha lineages in a chart:
1. Brahmānanda Sarasvatī (1941-1953; revived the maṭha after a vacancy of 165
Dear Dear Merudanda, Thanks be to someone here who really Knows. I hardly never
been west of the Des Moines River. I just meditate and wait here for the saints
to come visit to Fairfield, Iowa.
So, does our TM Shankaracharya of Jyotirmaṭha: Vāsudevānanda Sarasvatī have a
controlling hand or a
What's this?! Santa granter of all wishes visits FFL AFTER Christmas! And calls
himself merundanda! How fortunate are we, no question mark at all intended.
Happiest of New Years dear merudanda santa granter of almost all wishes (-:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 5:37 AM, merudanda
On 1/7/2014 8:39 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Buck wrote:
Which ones are our guys?
Only Swami Vasudevananda Sarswati is in the direct line of succession to
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati.
The real question is why has the Swami Swaroopanand turned the
Jyotirmath tradition into a political
The history and presence (as well as it's future)of Jyotirmatha (including
involvement of the heads of the four and other monasteries of the Daśanāmī
orders to be known as Śaṅkarācāryas, in honor of its founder)was and is
extremely complicated .But humanly interesting, complex with its
The history and presence (as well as it's future)of Jyotirmatha (including
involvement of the heads of the four and other monasteries of the Daśanāmī
orders to be known as Śaṅkarācāryas, in honor of its founder)was and is
extremely complicated .But humanly interesting, complex with its
Ah ha, dear merudanda, even with Svami Satyananda were you santa grantor
bringing favorite flavors flavours of ice cream and undistrubed showers and
philosophically impossible naturalness and effortlessness. Naturalness is the
basis of effectiveness, explained MMY and there you are being so
NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu
society, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous
task yet -- that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of
Shankaracharyas. For the first time, the VHP has convened a meeting of the
KANCHEEPURAM - Judicial magistrate G Uttamraja on Friday sent Kanchi
Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswathi to a three-day police custody. Earlier
in the day, the Shankaracharya was brought to the magistrate’s court in a
police van the Vellore Central Jail at 10.30 am. The magistrate arrived at
11.25
Was this guy one of our TM Shanks? Did Maharishi back this guy? What is his
relationship to the branches of the story of the Shankarachary tree there. I
would really like a program guide that has a flow chart of who is who in the
modern Shankaracharya business. I can't keep their names
Nine years after being charged with criminal conspiracy in the murder of a
temple manager in November 2004, Kanchi sankaracharyas Jayendra Saraswathi,
78, and Vijayendra Saraswathi, 44, were acquitted by a Puducherry court on
Wednesday.
Twenty-one others who were accused along with the pontiffs
Illfully submit my composure and humbly beg your utmost pardon- wrong language
link
here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddPKMmOUJIY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddPKMmOUJIY
Published on Nov 26, 2013 report about the day of verdict and impact it has on
Indian society
(Who remembers
Kanchi Shakaracharya Jayendra Saraswati was on Thursday night arrested by
the Tamil Nadu Police in Mehboobnagar in Andhra Pradesh. Thiru (Sri
Jayendra Swamigal Saraswathi of Kanchipuram Sankara Matth) was arrested at
10 pm tonight at Mehboobnagar in Andhra Pradesh as one of the prime accused
in a
Kanchi Shankaracharya Jayendra Saraswati and his followers, all 23 accused in
the Shankararaman murder case have been acquitted by a court in Pondicherry.
The judge said that the complainant had failed to support the prosecution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAPI72os-uM
Wow! Where does this stand now? Does Maharishi's guy have an inside track
now? Is there now any defference or are they still fighting? Follow the money?
Nadir Ram apparently recently appealed to [a] the shankaracharya to rule on
his legitimacy as heir to TM around the recent revolt of
VARANASI - The Dwarikapeeth Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand today
asked the beleaguered Kanchi Kamakoti Peeth Shankaracharya Swami
Jayendra Saraswati to step down from his post until proved innocent by
the court of law in an alleged murder case. The seer must step down
from the post of
This is not a football game. TM is a joke compared to the centuries
long tradition and knowledge of the Shakaracharya tradition.
On 01/02/2014 03:19 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
Wow! Where does this stand now? Does Maharishi's guy have an inside
track now? Is there now any
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