[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Robin Carlsen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8Ss28zjcE&feature=related


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Robin,
> > Thanks for your reply.  Sort of an indulgence when other 
> > stuff is going on here, but a few comments.
> > As you know, many times I read posts rather quickly, and 
> > may miss some nuances.
> > But I don't generally try to argue with,  or analyze "funny".  
> > I like "funny" and usually I will take it a face value.  I 
> > found Barry's post to be funny.  And I thought it delivered 
> > some well deserved pay back to you and Judy.  Sorry about 
> > that, but that's what I felt.  
> 
> Steve, I honestly don't know why you and Curtis got
> sucked into this sucker's game. Robin has clearly
> lured you both into his same old same old routine
> of interacting with him endlessly, with him calling
> the shots and getting you to jump through hoops.
> 
> And ALL OVER SOME DRAMA QUEEN HYSTERICS
> THAT NO SANE PERSON WOULD EVER BOTHER WITH.
> 
> My "apologies" from Robin and Judy were not in any
> way supposed to be irony, or even funny. They were
> an attempt to convey -- in as few words as possible
> -- what they should really say in such an apology
> if they were in the least bit honest. With themselves,
> and with others here.
> 
> These are crazy people. They reduced Fairfield Life
> yesterday to their level, and sucked other people 
> into it. 
> 
> If you're got the time to waste on such bullshit,
> I leave you to it. I do not.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[authfriend]

Never mind, Susan. Just keep on truckin'.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I will admit that I was talking on the phone while reading
> > > > > FFL last night - a "dangerous" thing to do if you take this 
> > > > > seriously and want to be able to defend yourself here.
> > > > > Anyway, I gather I was responding to a single post of
> > > > > Emily's when apparently I had missed an earlier one.
> > > > 
> > > > Interesting, because last night you claimed to have read
> > > > Emily's earlier post too:
> > > > 
> > > > ==
> > > > I did read Emily's post.
> > > 
> > > Yes, I did write that I had read Emily's post, but I was
> > > referring to the one post of hers I had read, not the prior
> > > one that I was not aware of.
> > 
> > 
> > Oh, for chrissakes, Susan, get real! The post you
> > were responding to *called to your attention exactly
> > that prior post*. What did you think "Read Emily's
> > post which came before this one" meant? How is one
> > to interpret "I did read Emily's post" as referring
> > to anything other than that prior post you'd just
> > been told to read?
> > 
> > Look down here at what Robin had written that you
> > were responding to--that you quoted in your post--
> > the second sentence (I put it in capital letters
> > so you won't miss it):
> > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You have the strangest compulsions, Susan. READ EMILY'S
> > > > > POST WHICH CAME BEFORE THIS ONE. Answer that. You're a
> > > > > funny lady. But you're right: 90% does it. I feel this
> > > > > right in my bones. Casey hit a home run.
> > 
> > 
> > And you responded: "I read Emily's post."
> > 
> > Later, in response to me, you wrote, "I read the posts"
> > (plural).
> 
> Yes, the posts (plural) by other people that led up to Emily's single post to 
> which I responded  (and which she fully understood).  You see, I did read 
> other people's posts, and then 1 by Emily to which I responded.  Is that 
> clear now?  Can you see how that might happen?
> > 
> > Are you on the telephone now as you're reading and
> > responding? It seems like you must be, because you
> > sure aren't paying attention.
> 
> Wow, this should be the worst problem in my life, and yours too.  Seriously.  
> Judy, I don't care about this now. And since I was distracted on the phone 
> last night - and apparently missed a post, I don't care about that either, 
> nor do I feel guilty or as if I made a big mistake.   I made a brief post in 
> response to  few words in a post by Emily.  Emily was fine with it (as she 
> wrote), and so am I. 
> 
> > 
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K. 
> > > > > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > > > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > > > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > > > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > > > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319735
> > > > 
> > > > And then you denied you did any "selective reading":
> > > > 
> > > > =
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K.
> > > > > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > > > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > > > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > > > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > > > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise.
> > > > >
> > > > > JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in
> > > > > selective reading.
> > > > 
> > > > Nothing selective about my reading on this. I read the posts.
> > > > I just don't "side" with you, which is a very different thing
> > > > than selective reading.
> > > > ==

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[wayback71]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> 
> > > > I will admit that I was talking on the phone while reading
> > > > FFL last night - a "dangerous" thing to do if you take this 
> > > > seriously and want to be able to defend yourself here.
> > > > Anyway, I gather I was responding to a single post of
> > > > Emily's when apparently I had missed an earlier one.
> > > 
> > > Interesting, because last night you claimed to have read
> > > Emily's earlier post too:
> > > 
> > > ==
> > > I did read Emily's post.
> > 
> > Yes, I did write that I had read Emily's post, but I was
> > referring to the one post of hers I had read, not the prior
> > one that I was not aware of.
> 
> 
> Oh, for chrissakes, Susan, get real! The post you
> were responding to *called to your attention exactly
> that prior post*. What did you think "Read Emily's
> post which came before this one" meant? How is one
> to interpret "I did read Emily's post" as referring
> to anything other than that prior post you'd just
> been told to read?
> 
> Look down here at what Robin had written that you
> were responding to--that you quoted in your post--
> the second sentence (I put it in capital letters
> so you won't miss it):
> 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You have the strangest compulsions, Susan. READ EMILY'S
> > > > POST WHICH CAME BEFORE THIS ONE. Answer that. You're a
> > > > funny lady. But you're right: 90% does it. I feel this
> > > > right in my bones. Casey hit a home run.
> 
> 
> And you responded: "I read Emily's post."
> 
> Later, in response to me, you wrote, "I read the posts"
> (plural).

Yes, the posts (plural) by other people that led up to Emily's single post to 
which I responded  (and which she fully understood).  You see, I did read other 
people's posts, and then 1 by Emily to which I responded.  Is that clear now?  
Can you see how that might happen?
> 
> Are you on the telephone now as you're reading and
> responding? It seems like you must be, because you
> sure aren't paying attention.

Wow, this should be the worst problem in my life, and yours too.  Seriously.  
Judy, I don't care about this now. And since I was distracted on the phone last 
night - and apparently missed a post, I don't care about that either, nor do I 
feel guilty or as if I made a big mistake.   I made a brief post in response to 
 few words in a post by Emily.  Emily was fine with it (as she wrote), and so 
am I. 

> 
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K. 
> > > > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319735
> > > 
> > > And then you denied you did any "selective reading":
> > > 
> > > =
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K.
> > > > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise.
> > > >
> > > > JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in
> > > > selective reading.
> > > 
> > > Nothing selective about my reading on this. I read the posts.
> > > I just don't "side" with you, which is a very different thing
> > > than selective reading.
> > > ===
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319736
> > > 
> > > And of course my comment had zero to do with whether you
> > > were on *my* side. My point was that you read Emily's
> > > second post and assumed, incorrectly, that *she* was siding
> > > with Curtis. But you had just got 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:

> > > I will admit that I was talking on the phone while reading
> > > FFL last night - a "dangerous" thing to do if you take this 
> > > seriously and want to be able to defend yourself here.
> > > Anyway, I gather I was responding to a single post of
> > > Emily's when apparently I had missed an earlier one.
> > 
> > Interesting, because last night you claimed to have read
> > Emily's earlier post too:
> > 
> > ==
> > I did read Emily's post.
> 
> Yes, I did write that I had read Emily's post, but I was
> referring to the one post of hers I had read, not the prior
> one that I was not aware of.


Oh, for chrissakes, Susan, get real! The post you
were responding to *called to your attention exactly
that prior post*. What did you think "Read Emily's
post which came before this one" meant? How is one
to interpret "I did read Emily's post" as referring
to anything other than that prior post you'd just
been told to read?

Look down here at what Robin had written that you
were responding to--that you quoted in your post--
the second sentence (I put it in capital letters
so you won't miss it):

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> > >
> > > You have the strangest compulsions, Susan. READ EMILY'S
> > > POST WHICH CAME BEFORE THIS ONE. Answer that. You're a
> > > funny lady. But you're right: 90% does it. I feel this
> > > right in my bones. Casey hit a home run.


And you responded: "I read Emily's post."

Later, in response to me, you wrote, "I read the posts"
(plural).

Are you on the telephone now as you're reading and
responding? It seems like you must be, because you
sure aren't paying attention.


> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K. 
> > > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > > >
> > > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise. 
> > 
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319735
> > 
> > And then you denied you did any "selective reading":
> > 
> > =
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K.
> > > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > > >
> > > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise.
> > >
> > > JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in
> > > selective reading.
> > 
> > Nothing selective about my reading on this. I read the posts.
> > I just don't "side" with you, which is a very different thing
> > than selective reading.
> > ===
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319736
> > 
> > And of course my comment had zero to do with whether you
> > were on *my* side. My point was that you read Emily's
> > second post and assumed, incorrectly, that *she* was siding
> > with Curtis. But you had just got done telling Robin that
> > you'd read the earlier one as well, and here you appeared
> > to confirm this ("I read the posts").
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> 
> > No, I was not aware that Robin posted "on my account."  But
> > thanks for letting me know, Steve.
> 
> Of course, he didn't post on your account but under his
> own name and handle. Here's the post:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319794
> 
> > I will admit that I was talking on the phone while reading
> > FFL last night - a "dangerous" thing to do if you take this 
> > seriously and want to be able to defend yourself here.
> > Anyway, I gather I was responding to a single post of
> > Emily's when apparently I had missed an earlier one.
> 
> Interesting, because last night you claimed to have read
> Emily's earlier post too:
> 
> ==
> I did read Emily's post.

Yes, I did write that I had read Emily's post, but I was referring to the one 
post of hers I had read, not the prior one that I was not aware of. There was 
no deceit on my part, simply that I did not know there was an earlier post I 
had not read.  I was distracted by my phone call, so I must have missed it.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> >
> > You have the strangest compulsions, Susan. Read Emily's
> > post which came before this one. Answer that. You're a
> > funny lady. But you're right: 90% does it. I feel this
> > right in my bones. Casey hit a home run.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K. 
> > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > >
> > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise. 
> 
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319735
> 
> And then you denied you did any "selective reading":
> 
> =
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K.
> > > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> > >
> > > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > > are the ones making the fuss, the noise.
> >
> > JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in
> > selective reading.
> 
> Nothing selective about my reading on this. I read the posts.
> I just don't "side" with you, which is a very different thing
> than selective reading.
> ===
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319736
> 
> And of course my comment had zero to do with whether you
> were on *my* side. My point was that you read Emily's
> second post and assumed, incorrectly, that *she* was siding
> with Curtis. But you had just got done telling Robin that
> you'd read the earlier one as well, and here you appeared
> to confirm this ("I read the posts").
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:

> No, I was not aware that Robin posted "on my account."  But
> thanks for letting me know, Steve.

Of course, he didn't post on your account but under his
own name and handle. Here's the post:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319794

> I will admit that I was talking on the phone while reading
> FFL last night - a "dangerous" thing to do if you take this 
> seriously and want to be able to defend yourself here.
> Anyway, I gather I was responding to a single post of
> Emily's when apparently I had missed an earlier one.

Interesting, because last night you claimed to have read
Emily's earlier post too:

==
I did read Emily's post.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
>
> You have the strangest compulsions, Susan. Read Emily's
> post which came before this one. Answer that. You're a
> funny lady. But you're right: 90% does it. I feel this
> right in my bones. Casey hit a home run.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K. 
> > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> >
> > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > are the ones making the fuss, the noise. 


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319735

And then you denied you did any "selective reading":

=
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey now, I'm standing up for Curtis, aren't I :) It's O.K.
> > > Curtis...your reputation is safe. No worries.
> >
> > I'm with you, Emily, and Curtis, on this. Altho most people
> > won't bother to spend a minute reading this argumentative,
> > odd stuff (good for them!), my guess is that if they did,
> > about 99% would side with Curtis. Thing is, the other 1%
> > are the ones making the fuss, the noise.
>
> JESUS. Poor Susan! Maybe she should give a course in
> selective reading.

Nothing selective about my reading on this. I read the posts.
I just don't "side" with you, which is a very different thing
than selective reading.
===

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319736

And of course my comment had zero to do with whether you
were on *my* side. My point was that you read Emily's
second post and assumed, incorrectly, that *she* was siding
with Curtis. But you had just got done telling Robin that
you'd read the earlier one as well, and here you appeared
to confirm this ("I read the posts").

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Susan]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> 
> > Steve, I honestly don't know why you and Curtis got
> > sucked into this sucker's game. Robin has clearly
> > lured you both into his same old same old routine
> > of interacting with him endlessly, with him calling
> > the shots and getting you to jump through hoops.
> >
> > And ALL OVER SOME DRAMA QUEEN HYSTERICS
> > THAT NO SANE PERSON WOULD EVER BOTHER WITH.
> >
> > My "apologies" from Robin and Judy were not in any
> > way supposed to be irony, or even funny. They were
> > an attempt to convey -- in as few words as possible
> > -- what they should really say in such an apology
> > if they were in the least bit honest. With themselves,
> > and with others here.
> >
> > These are crazy people. They reduced Fairfield Life
> > yesterday to their level, and sucked other people
> > into it.
> >
> > If you're got the time to waste on such bullshit,
> > I leave you to it. I do not.
> >
> A couple things.  We hear from Judy that she feels she must always set
> the record straight.
> I guess I have some of that as well.  For the most part I am a lurker. 
> I am probably a 15 posts a week person.  But certain things bug me, and
> I am willing to make a stand on them.  I guess I am somewhat like Susan
> in that regard.
> And really, this whole issue concerns mostly Curtis.  I mean others were
> also subject to the hijacking of their POV, but so far Curtis is the
> only one who is pressing it.  I wonder if Susan is aware of the post
> that was made on her account by Robin.  Who knows.

No, I was not aware that Robin posted "on my account."  But thanks for letting 
me know, Steve.  I have so little time to read FFL that I am often way behind 
on things here.  In fact, I won't even be bothering to go back and see what 
Robin wrote on my account. I will admit that I was talking on the phone while 
reading FFL last night - a "dangerous" thing to do if you take this seriously 
and want to be able to defend yourself here.  Anyway, I gather I was responding 
to a single post of Emily's when apparently I had missed an earlier one.  Ah 
well, that is history now and not what I am going to spend my time on.  Because 
in 1 minute  I leave for the gym and then yoga. Both make me feel terrific 
after a day's work.  Til later.

> And I admit Barry, that I have been enjoying this exchange, but with the
> caveat, that it is not my POV that has been hijacked, or parodied, or
> whatever you want you want to call it.  And then this morning, I
> thought, for a moment, that it might actually be fun for someone to
> assume my POV in a post.  But then, thinking about further, I don't
> think there is anyone I trust enough to do that.  I mean if it were 
> temporary, that would be one thing.  But as has been pointed out, these
> are permanent postings.
> And I enjoyed your "apologies" in whatever spirit you posted them.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> to the two people causing most of it:
> 
> APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: 
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just 
> having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult 
> wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee 
> cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that 
> I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed 
> miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in 
> North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I 
> was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> up some shit about you. Sorry.
> - Robin W. Carlsen

Robin can speak for himself if he chooses to bother,
but I very much doubt he craves even a footnote in
the history of spirituality in North America.


> APOLOGY FROM JUDY:
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I'm a 
> bat shit crazy old woman with nothing going on in
> my life

Au contraire, Pierre, I have almost more going on in
my life (very good stuff) than I can deal with. A lot
more than Barry does, in fact, and he's a whole four
years younger than I am.

> and it really, really, really gets my panties
> in a twist to see anyone liking or supporting anyone
> I've spent years telling them that they shouldn't
> like. When that happens I see red and go a little
> crazier than usual, because it reminds me what an
> *ineffectual* crazy person I am. All these years,
> working with an audience not nearly as smart as I
> am, and I *still* couldn't make them hate the people
> I wanted them to hate.

It's always a crapshoot trying to determine whether
one of Barry's many self-contradictions is a function
of his failing memory about what he's said previously,
or his conviction that everyone *else's* memory is
deficient.

I suspect, though, that anyone who reads his posts
will remember quite well his urgent warnings--some
very recent--of my power to recruit others to my point
of view concerning those he refers to as my "enemies."

As Stupid Sal would say, it would be funny if it
weren't so sad. (Or, alternatively, it would be sad
if it weren't so funny.)

I snipped the post of mine Barry quoted, the one in
which I told maskedzebra to get lost. MZ, of course,
was one of my most successful and prominent converts.
He would never, *ever* have taken a dim view of Curtis
had it not been for my efforts.

But now that their enmity appears to be engraved in
stone, MZ seems to think he has some kind of "in" with
me. He requires reminding every now and then that he's
served his purpose and has no claim on my attention or
favor.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Emily Reyn]

Dear Emily (my mistress):

You have potential.

Love, Sandy (your dog)



 From: Robin Carlsen 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy
 

  
Dear Curtis.  Thank you for asking for a re-post of this.  I missed it as well. 
 Objectively, without parsing the details, this is a brilliant piece of work. 
Robin has managed, somehow, to capture almost perfectly his own MO from your 
perspective and others' actually, although perhaps not exclusively, as you 
note.  How many people are able to represent so accurately another's viewpoint 
of themselves - he must have tried on the Reality of it all, dontcha 
think...maybe just one shoe? You must admit you have made these key points on 
many occasions, albeit using different words:

Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you 
have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and 
not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, 
Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. 

You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by 
what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and 
offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But 
beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You 
have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and 
unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into 
your little dance of self-congratulations.

I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I 
write. You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what 
my motives are, my character. 

Robin, can't see how you are acting out a little ritual here which has become 
so familiar to most of us that at this point it just seems like a cheap Vegas 
act--where the audience dwindles every night. 

Now, this last oneyour analogies are more creative, but the spirit is 
captured.  Curtis, you have the skill set to reply in-kind, should you so 
choose. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time responding to Robin's request 
to "show" him what about his post *wasn't* an accurate reflection of your 
position. Sounds like you might be finished for the day though; it was a 
helluva show and thank you for your participation.  It might have been annoying 
as hell from your seat, but from mine, it was insanely funny.  But, just so you 
know, I am *not* laughing at your expense.  I thank you for letting Robin get 
under your skin a bit.  It was good for me Curtis, I hope it was good for you 
too. 

Emily

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> to the two people causing most of it:
> 
> APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: 
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just 
> having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult 
> wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee 
> cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that 
> I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed 
> miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in 
> North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I 
> was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> up some shit about you. Sorry.
> - Robin W. Carlsen
> 

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless.  Almost.  It is at this point
> > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the 
> > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down.  And succeeds in doing
> > > > so for a while.  I guess that's a difference between that book 
> > > > and FFL.  I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment.
> > > > 
> > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy.  That could happen 
> > > > you know.
> > > 
> > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings 
> > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your 
> > > warning to Authfrie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> Steve, I honestly don't know why you and Curtis got
> sucked into this sucker's game. Robin has clearly
> lured you both into his same old same old routine
> of interacting with him endlessly, with him calling
> the shots and getting you to jump through hoops.
>
> And ALL OVER SOME DRAMA QUEEN HYSTERICS
> THAT NO SANE PERSON WOULD EVER BOTHER WITH.
>
> My "apologies" from Robin and Judy were not in any
> way supposed to be irony, or even funny. They were
> an attempt to convey -- in as few words as possible
> -- what they should really say in such an apology
> if they were in the least bit honest. With themselves,
> and with others here.
>
> These are crazy people. They reduced Fairfield Life
> yesterday to their level, and sucked other people
> into it.
>
> If you're got the time to waste on such bullshit,
> I leave you to it. I do not.
>
A couple things.  We hear from Judy that she feels she must always set
the record straight.
I guess I have some of that as well.  For the most part I am a lurker. 
I am probably a 15 posts a week person.  But certain things bug me, and
I am willing to make a stand on them.  I guess I am somewhat like Susan
in that regard.
And really, this whole issue concerns mostly Curtis.  I mean others were
also subject to the hijacking of their POV, but so far Curtis is the
only one who is pressing it.  I wonder if Susan is aware of the post
that was made on her account by Robin.  Who knows.
And I admit Barry, that I have been enjoying this exchange, but with the
caveat, that it is not my POV that has been hijacked, or parodied, or
whatever you want you want to call it.  And then this morning, I
thought, for a moment, that it might actually be fun for someone to
assume my POV in a post.  But then, thinking about further, I don't
think there is anyone I trust enough to do that.  I mean if it were 
temporary, that would be one thing.  But as has been pointed out, these
are permanent postings.
And I enjoyed your "apologies" in whatever spirit you posted them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Richard J. Williams]

seventhray:
  > The Book of Mormon is playing just up the street from me
> at the Fox Theater. ..
>
Fox Theater?
http://youtu.be/fMhHfa8X4SA 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> Hey Robin,
> Thanks for your reply.  Sort of an indulgence when other 
> stuff is going on here, but a few comments.
> As you know, many times I read posts rather quickly, and 
> may miss some nuances.
> But I don't generally try to argue with,  or analyze "funny".  
> I like "funny" and usually I will take it a face value.  I 
> found Barry's post to be funny.  And I thought it delivered 
> some well deserved pay back to you and Judy.  Sorry about 
> that, but that's what I felt.  

Steve, I honestly don't know why you and Curtis got
sucked into this sucker's game. Robin has clearly
lured you both into his same old same old routine
of interacting with him endlessly, with him calling
the shots and getting you to jump through hoops.

And ALL OVER SOME DRAMA QUEEN HYSTERICS
THAT NO SANE PERSON WOULD EVER BOTHER WITH.

My "apologies" from Robin and Judy were not in any
way supposed to be irony, or even funny. They were
an attempt to convey -- in as few words as possible
-- what they should really say in such an apology
if they were in the least bit honest. With themselves,
and with others here.

These are crazy people. They reduced Fairfield Life
yesterday to their level, and sucked other people 
into it. 

If you're got the time to waste on such bullshit,
I leave you to it. I do not. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[seventhray1]

Hey Robin,
Thanks for your reply.  Sort of an indulgence when other stuff is going
on here, but a few comments.
As you know, many times I read posts rather quickly, and may miss some
nuances.
But I don't generally try to argue with,  or analyze "funny".  I like
"funny" and usually I will take it a face value.  I found Barry's post
to be funny.  And I thought it delivered some well deserved pay back to
you and Judy.  Sorry about that, but that's what I felt.  Let me look
down below and see what else there might be.  Hold on.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "maskedzebra" 
wrote:
>
> Dear Steve,
>
> Wait for your letter; but I couldn't help myself: This one word is the
best (and most ironic) response there could be to Barry's ID
impersonations. Therefore, you realize how far you are from
understanding irony when you see it [irony]. Had I thought of this one
word as a response to Barry's post *I would have eagerly seized upon
it*.
>
> That is, me, Robin, would have decided this was *better than anything
that I could come up with* to remain consistent and intelligent in all
that I believe about Barry.
>
> The problem here, Steve, is you did not understand my essay on irony.
If you had you would have realized that *it is incidental* if the irony
is in the service of one's own opinions, biases, predilections-or is
against them: for something to be ironic, it is only *up to reality
itself*. The moment you begin to obrain delight in something someone has
said about someone else, *there is no reality there, Stevie, boy*. For
irony impersonalizes everything; puts a person into a unknown experience
over which they have no control.
I am sure this is correct.  Barry's post, I am sure did not meet these
parameters.  But I wasn't evaluating it on that basis.
> Barry did not interface with reality; he only interfaced with himself.
Ergo, he voided the irony potential altogether. You can't do irony from
some conviction of feeling--you have to do irony from a strictly
disinterested and impartial standpoint in the universe: you have to let
reality *represent itself*. (Even if your starting motive is some strong
affect.)
Well, we will disqualify it as irony, and put it in the slam category.
> If you loved Barry's posts (re: me and the editor dame) then it
certainly was "perfection" for YOU. But it had nothing to do with irony,
for if Barry's post had been suitably and objectively ironic, *you would
have had an experience over which you had no control*.
>
> Irony only works on *its* terms; it has no favourites.
>
> The irony that Barry attempted failed. And why did it fail, Steve?
Because it just gave you a great experience of satisfaction that Barry
seemed to be getting back at Robin and the editor dame. But that is not
what irony is all about whatsoever; irony has to be so good that the
person who deploys it can laugh as hard at what he or she has said or
written--as if someone else has said or written it. And the victim, he
or she, too, has to fight not to laugh--*at himself or herself*.
W
> There can be no ambiguity when irony is going on, Steve: Barry's post
did not touch me--*even as I would have been instructed and edified if
it had*--and I would look forward to that experience.

> If you're going to write an anti-Book of Mormon you have to find the
same metaphysical formula that Stone and Parker found to write their
play. But at the same time you have to go one level higher. Barry's post
was like someone going hysterical about the possibly implied atheism of
Stone and Parker--and calling them names because of this.
I can work on that Robin, right after we pay off the mortgage and get
the kids through school, (oh, and clean the garage), but it should be on
my list at some point.
> What Barry had to do to make it here, Steve, was show that Mormonism
on its own could make more fun of Stone and Parker's *The Book of
Mormon* than the play had succeeded in ridiculing the LDS Church.
Hey, you know, The Book of Mormon is playing just up the street from me
at the Fox Theater.  Or maybe it just finished, or maybe it's still
coming.  From what I've read it sounds like a great play, but I probably
won't be able to see it.
> Irony is an entirely objective phenomenon. It is an equal opportunity
phenomenon. Which means that Barack Obama could make fun of Mitt Romney;
but if Mitt was going to have a comeback (if he was as upset as Barry
was on behalf of his friend), he would have to *take in the irony
potency and after-effect of the ironic remark of Obama*, and then go one
better--or at least hold his own.
>
> Your rejoicing at Barry's post just proved how irony-challenged you
are, Steve--not from some organic limitation--but from some flaw in your
approach to reality: you haven't figured out how to look for the complex
secret in every moment when there is a conflict like this.
Robin, I think you've hit on just one of my flaws.  But as someone used
the phrase here recently,  I've got bigger fish to fry.  But thanks for
letting me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Richard J. Williams]

So, it's all about Robin and Judy.

turquoiseb:
> Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> to the two people causing most of it:
> 
> APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: 
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just 
> having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult 
> wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee 
> cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that 
> I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed 
> miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in 
> North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I 
> was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> up some shit about you. Sorry.
> - Robin W. Carlsen
> 
> APOLOGY FROM JUDY:
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I'm a 
> bat shit crazy old woman with nothing going on in
> my life and it really, really, really gets my panties
> in a twist to see anyone liking or supporting anyone
> I've spent years telling them that they shouldn't
> like. When that happens I see red and go a little
> crazier than usual, because it reminds me what an
> *ineffectual* crazy person I am. All these years,
> working with an audience not nearly as smart as I
> am, and I *still* couldn't make them hate the people
> I wanted them to hate. Realizing all this just got
> me down, that's all, so I needed to go a little 
> more bat shit crazy than usual.
> - Judy Stein
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless.  Almost.  It is at this point
> > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the 
> > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down.  And succeeds in doing
> > > > so for a while.  I guess that's a difference between that book 
> > > > and FFL.  I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment.
> > > > 
> > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy.  That could happen 
> > > > you know.
> > > 
> > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings 
> > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your 
> > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I 
> > > understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I
> > > think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you 
> > > understand this, Authfriend?
> > 
> > F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and
> > your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way,
> > OK? I know you better than I need to.
> > 
> > > You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny
> > > thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you!
> > 
> > Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and
> > grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it
> > all the way around the block even once yet.
> > 
> > "Write into you," is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell
> > you where you can write into, mister.
> > 
> > > But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition,
> > > as surely you must know, Authfriend.
> > 
> > Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with
> > you there.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[maskedzebra]

Dear Steve,

Wait for your letter; but I couldn't help myself: This one word is the best 
(and most ironic) response there could be to Barry's ID impersonations. 
Therefore, you realize how far you are from understanding irony when you see it 
[irony]. Had I thought of this one word as a response to Barry's post *I would 
have eagerly seized upon it*.

That is, me, Robin, would have decided this was *better than anything that I 
could come up with* to remain consistent and intelligent in all that I believe 
about Barry.

The problem here, Steve, is you did not understand my essay on irony. If you 
had you would have realized that *it is incidental* if the irony is in the 
service of one's own opinions, biases, predilections-or is against them: for 
something to be ironic, it is only *up to reality itself*. The moment you begin 
to obrain delight in something someone has said about someone else, *there is 
no reality there, Stevie, boy*. For irony impersonalizes everything; puts a 
person into a unknown experience over which they have no control.

Barry did not interface with reality; he only interfaced with himself. Ergo, he 
voided the irony potential altogether. You can't do irony from some conviction 
of feeling--you have to do irony from a strictly disinterested and impartial 
standpoint in the universe: you have to let reality *represent itself*. (Even 
if your starting motive is some strong affect.)

If you loved Barry's posts (re: me and the editor dame) then it certainly was 
"perfection" for YOU. But it had nothing to do with irony, for if Barry's post 
had been suitably and objectively ironic, *you would have had an experience 
over which you had no control*.

Irony only works on *its* terms; it has no favourites.

The irony that Barry attempted failed. And why did it fail, Steve? Because it 
just gave you a great experience of satisfaction that Barry seemed to be 
getting back at Robin and the editor dame. But that is not what irony is all 
about whatsoever; irony has to be so good that the person who deploys it can 
laugh as hard at what he or she has said or written--as if someone else has 
said or written it. And the victim, he or she, too, has to fight not to 
laugh--*at himself or herself*.

There can be no ambiguity when irony is going on, Steve: Barry's post did not 
touch me--*even as I would have been instructed and edified if it had*--and I 
would look forward to that experience.

If you're going to write an anti-Book of Mormon you have to find the same 
metaphysical formula that Stone and Parker found to write their play. But at 
the same time you have to go one level higher. Barry's post was like someone 
going hysterical about the possibly implied atheism of Stone and Parker--and 
calling them names because of this.

What Barry had to do to make it here, Steve, was show that Mormonism on its own 
could make more fun of Stone and Parker's *The Book of Mormon* than the play 
had succeeded in ridiculing the LDS Church.

Irony is an entirely objective phenomenon. It is an equal opportunity 
phenomenon. Which means that Barack Obama could make fun of Mitt Romney; but if 
Mitt was going to have a comeback (if he was as upset as Barry was on behalf of 
his friend), he would have to *take in the irony potency and after-effect of 
the ironic remark of Obama*, and then go one better--or at least hold his own.

Your rejoicing at Barry's post just proved how irony-challenged you are, 
Steve--not from some organic limitation--but from some flaw in your approach to 
reality: you haven't figured out how to look for the complex secret in every 
moment when there is a conflict like this.

While walking this morning (not knowing about your post here) I had the 
thought: I should impersonate myself (as Barry or his friend); in other words 
*attempt exactly what Barry attempted* but show him how it was done. Mock 
myself, then, Steve! I think I could do a pretty good job of it.

And that is the trait one seeks above all in trying to master the art of irony: 
that one ruthlessly sees the contingent possibility of sending oneself up AT 
ANY AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY; therefore one is always in a potentially ironic 
relationship to oneself when one acts in the world--or posts at FFL.

You should consider this idea, Steve. It would save you from the unconscious 
Monty Python grotesquerie of this very post of yours. But that said, I wish I 
had said this very thing.

Much love to you Steve,

Robin

  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> Perfection!
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> > goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> > bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> > to the two people causing most of it:
> >
> > APOLOGY FROM ROBIN:
> > Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just
> > having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> > myself, that I am nothing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[seventhray1]

Hey, you know.  I kinda changing my tune.   Robin, will you do me. 
Pretty please.

Well, maybe not.  As Curtis says, this stuff is forever.

It's just not kosher.  But at least we now have the ground rules.  The
parodied person can ask not to have it done, but they must,  if asked,
describe what part of the parody they find objectionable.  And of
course, then that would be open to debate.

Does this sound kind of crazy?

Sort of like was this a "legitimate" rape, or a forceable rape?




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" 
wrote:
>
> Dear Curtis. Thank you for asking for a re-post of this. I missed it
as well. Objectively, without parsing the details, this is a brilliant
piece of work. Robin has managed, somehow, to capture almost perfectly
his own MO from your perspective and others' actually, although perhaps
not exclusively, as you note. How many people are able to represent so
accurately another's viewpoint of themselves - he must have tried on the
Reality of it all, dontcha think...maybe just one shoe? You must admit
you have made these key points on many occasions, albeit using different
words:
>
> Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that;
but you have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other
persons, and not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually
quite embarrassing, Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of
the person altogether.
>
> You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what
someone says by what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not
only inappropriate and offensive--it is the most unreliable form of
truth there could ever be. But beyond this, Robin, it is violation of
the code of human relationships. You have just gone one step too far
here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and unconvincing analysis of irony.
And I don't appreciate your bringing me into your little dance of
self-congratulations.
>
> I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis
of what I write. You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the
knower of what my motives are, my character.
>
> Robin, can't see how you are acting out a little ritual here which has
become so familiar to most of us that at this point it just seems like a
cheap Vegas act--where the audience dwindles every night.
>
> Now, this last oneyour analogies are more creative, but the spirit
is captured. Curtis, you have the skill set to reply in-kind, should you
so choose. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time responding to Robin's
request to "show" him what about his post *wasn't* an accurate
reflection of your position. Sounds like you might be finished for the
day though; it was a helluva show and thank you for your participation.
It might have been annoying as hell from your seat, but from mine, it
was insanely funny. But, just so you know, I am *not* laughing at your
expense. I thank you for letting Robin get under your skin a bit. It was
good for me Curtis, I hope it was good for you too.
>
> Emily
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> > goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> > bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> > to the two people causing most of it:
> >
> > APOLOGY FROM ROBIN:
> > Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just
> > having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> > myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult
> > wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee
> > cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> > so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that
> > I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed
> > miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> > now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in
> > North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I
> > was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> > all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> > up some shit about you. Sorry.
> > - Robin W. Carlsen
> >
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"
 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point
> > > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the
> > > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing
> > > > > so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book
> > > > > and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a
moment.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen
> > > > > you know.
> > > >
> > > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings
> > > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your
> > > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" 
wrote:
>
> Dear Barry,
>
> I rescind my judgment here, as I realized you eschewed any irony. My
Curtis posts were charged with irony. You have obviously mortified that
temptation--and I feel certain Susan will sense the virtue of this.
>
> Why not try irony next time, though? I am sure it would be salutary
for me.
>
> Robin
>
> P.S. At least Steve won't be offended by this.

Nay, This was Barry at his best.


>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "maskedzebra" maskedzebra@
wrote:
> >
> > Do I really have to ask you not to do this very douchey thing,
Barry, really?
> >
> > OK then I'll ask. Please don't sign my full name at the bottom of
straw men versions
> > of my POV out of respect for the fact that most of us just skim
posts within our
> > otherwise busy days and it is hard enough to keep track without this
in the mix.
> > There were many statements in what you write here, Barry, that I
wouldn't want anyone to
> > think I had generated. If you want to play fast and lose with
accuracy and just
> > assume other people will keep up, please do it at your expense in
the future,not
> > mine. This shit we put up on the Internet is FOREVER. It carries
some
> > responsibilities.
>
> Robin W. Carlsen
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> > > goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> > > bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> > > to the two people causing most of it:
> > >
> > > APOLOGY FROM ROBIN:
> > > Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just
> > > having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> > > myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult
> > > wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee
> > > cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> > > so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that
> > > I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed
> > > miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> > > now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in
> > > North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I
> > > was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> > > all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> > > up some shit about you. Sorry.
> > > - Robin W. Carlsen
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"
 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
 wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this
point
> > > > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when
the
> > > > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in
doing
> > > > > > so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that
book
> > > > > > and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a
moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could
happen
> > > > > > you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's
proceedings
> > > > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your
> > > > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > > > ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I
> > > > > understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes
I
> > > > > think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do
you
> > > > > understand this, Authfriend?
> > > >
> > > > F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and
> > > > your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way,
> > > > OK? I know you better than I need to.
> > > >
> > > > > You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny
> > > > > thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you!
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and
> > > > grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it
> > > > all the way around the block even once yet.
> > > >
> > > > "Write into you," is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell
> > > > you where you can write into, mister.
> > > >
> > > > > But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition,
> > > > > as surely you must know, Authfriend.
> > > >
> > > > Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with
> > > > you there.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[seventhray1]

Perfection!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> to the two people causing most of it:
>
> APOLOGY FROM ROBIN:
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just
> having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult
> wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee
> cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that
> I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed
> miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in
> North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I
> was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> up some shit about you. Sorry.
> - Robin W. Carlsen
>
> APOLOGY FROM JUDY:
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I'm a
> bat shit crazy old woman with nothing going on in
> my life and it really, really, really gets my panties
> in a twist to see anyone liking or supporting anyone
> I've spent years telling them that they shouldn't
> like. When that happens I see red and go a little
> crazier than usual, because it reminds me what an
> *ineffectual* crazy person I am. All these years,
> working with an audience not nearly as smart as I
> am, and I *still* couldn't make them hate the people
> I wanted them to hate. Realizing all this just got
> me down, that's all, so I needed to go a little
> more bat shit crazy than usual.
> - Judy Stein
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"
 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless. Almost. It is at this point
> > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the
> > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down. And succeeds in doing
> > > > so for a while. I guess that's a difference between that book
> > > > and FFL. I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment.
> > > >
> > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy. That could happen
> > > > you know.
> > >
> > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings
> > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your
> > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I
> > > understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I
> > > think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you
> > > understand this, Authfriend?
> >
> > F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and
> > your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way,
> > OK? I know you better than I need to.
> >
> > > You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny
> > > thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you!
> >
> > Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and
> > grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it
> > all the way around the block even once yet.
> >
> > "Write into you," is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell
> > you where you can write into, mister.
> >
> > > But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition,
> > > as surely you must know, Authfriend.
> >
> > Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with
> > you there.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Robin Carlsen]

http://tinyurl.com/9vxpwtr 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> to the two people causing most of it:
> 
> APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: 
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just 
> having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult 
> wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee 
> cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that 
> I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed 
> miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in 
> North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I 
> was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> up some shit about you. Sorry.
> - Robin W. Carlsen
> 
> APOLOGY FROM JUDY:
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I'm a 
> bat shit crazy old woman with nothing going on in
> my life and it really, really, really gets my panties
> in a twist to see anyone liking or supporting anyone
> I've spent years telling them that they shouldn't
> like. When that happens I see red and go a little
> crazier than usual, because it reminds me what an
> *ineffectual* crazy person I am. All these years,
> working with an audience not nearly as smart as I
> am, and I *still* couldn't make them hate the people
> I wanted them to hate. Realizing all this just got
> me down, that's all, so I needed to go a little 
> more bat shit crazy than usual.
> - Judy Stein
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless.  Almost.  It is at this point
> > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the 
> > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down.  And succeeds in doing
> > > > so for a while.  I guess that's a difference between that book 
> > > > and FFL.  I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment.
> > > > 
> > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy.  That could happen 
> > > > you know.
> > > 
> > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings 
> > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your 
> > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I 
> > > understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I
> > > think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you 
> > > understand this, Authfriend?
> > 
> > F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and
> > your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way,
> > OK? I know you better than I need to.
> > 
> > > You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny
> > > thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you!
> > 
> > Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and
> > grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it
> > all the way around the block even once yet.
> > 
> > "Write into you," is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell
> > you where you can write into, mister.
> > 
> > > But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition,
> > > as surely you must know, Authfriend.
> > 
> > Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with
> > you there.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Robin Carlsen]

Dear Curtis.  Thank you for asking for a re-post of this.  I missed it as well. 
 Objectively, without parsing the details, this is a brilliant piece of work. 
Robin has managed, somehow, to capture almost perfectly his own MO from your 
perspective and others' actually, although perhaps not exclusively, as you 
note.  How many people are able to represent so accurately another's viewpoint 
of themselves - he must have tried on the Reality of it all, dontcha 
think...maybe just one shoe? You must admit you have made these key points on 
many occasions, albeit using different words:

Look, Robin, I think you are a good guy, very sincere and all that; but you 
have one fatal flaw: you seek to judge the motivations of other persons, and 
not only do you fumble and stumble around (it is actually quite embarrassing, 
Robin), but you actually miss hitting the truth of the person altogether. 

You can intuit all you like, Robin, but the act of judging what someone says by 
what you believe to be their inner faults, this is not only inappropriate and 
offensive--it is the most unreliable form of truth there could ever be. But 
beyond this, Robin, it is violation of the code of human relationships. You 
have just gone one step too far here, Robin, in your rather pathetic and 
unconvincing analysis of irony. And I don't appreciate your bringing me into 
your little dance of self-congratulations.

I would just ask you one more time, Robin: Deal with me on the basis of what I 
write. You see, Robin, you can't act as if you are the knower of what 
my motives are, my character. 
 
Robin, can't see how you are acting out a little ritual here which has become 
so familiar to most of us that at this point it just seems like a cheap Vegas 
act--where the audience dwindles every night. 

Now, this last oneyour analogies are more creative, but the spirit is 
captured.  Curtis, you have the skill set to reply in-kind, should you so 
choose. If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time responding to Robin's request 
to "show" him what about his post *wasn't* an accurate reflection of your 
position. Sounds like you might be finished for the day though; it was a 
helluva show and thank you for your participation.  It might have been annoying 
as hell from your seat, but from mine, it was insanely funny.  But, just so you 
know, I am *not* laughing at your expense.  I thank you for letting Robin get 
under your skin a bit.  It was good for me Curtis, I hope it was good for you 
too. 

 Emily


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> to the two people causing most of it:
> 
> APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: 
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just 
> having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult 
> wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee 
> cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that 
> I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed 
> miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in 
> North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I 
> was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> up some shit about you. Sorry.
> - Robin W. Carlsen
> 

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless.  Almost.  It is at this point
> > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the 
> > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down.  And succeeds in doing
> > > > so for a while.  I guess that's a difference between that book 
> > > > and FFL.  I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment.
> > > > 
> > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy.  That could happen 
> > > > you know.
> > > 
> > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings 
> > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your 
> > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I 
> > > understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I
> > > think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you 
> > > understand this, Authfriend?
> > 
> > F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and
> > your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way,
> > OK? I know you better than I need to.
> > 
> > > You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny
> > > thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you!
> > 
> > Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[Robin Carlsen]

Dear Barry,

I rescind my judgment here, as I realized you eschewed any irony. My Curtis 
posts were charged with irony. You have obviously mortified that 
temptation--and I feel certain Susan will sense the virtue of this.

Why not try irony next time, though? I am sure it would be salutary for me.

Robin

P.S. At least Steve won't be offended by this.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "maskedzebra"  wrote:
>
> Do I really have to ask you not to do this very douchey thing, Barry, really?
> 
> OK then I'll ask. Please don't sign my full name at the bottom of straw men 
> versions
> of my POV out of respect for the fact that most of us just skim posts within 
> our
> otherwise busy days and it is hard enough to keep track without this in the 
> mix.
> There were many statements in what you write here, Barry, that I wouldn't 
> want anyone to
> think I had generated. If you want to play fast and lose with accuracy and 
> just
> assume other people will keep up, please do it at your expense in the 
> future,not
> mine. This shit we put up on the Internet is FOREVER. It carries some
> responsibilities.
 
Robin W. Carlsen 
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> > goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> > bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> > to the two people causing most of it:
> > 
> > APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: 
> > Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just 
> > having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> > myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult 
> > wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee 
> > cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> > so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that 
> > I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed 
> > miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> > now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in 
> > North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I 
> > was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> > all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> > up some shit about you. Sorry.
> > - Robin W. Carlsen
> 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless.  Almost.  It is at this point
> > > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the 
> > > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down.  And succeeds in doing
> > > > > so for a while.  I guess that's a difference between that book 
> > > > > and FFL.  I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy.  That could happen 
> > > > > you know.
> > > > 
> > > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings 
> > > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your 
> > > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > > ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I 
> > > > understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I
> > > > think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you 
> > > > understand this, Authfriend?
> > > 
> > > F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and
> > > your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way,
> > > OK? I know you better than I need to.
> > > 
> > > > You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny
> > > > thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you!
> > > 
> > > Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and
> > > grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it
> > > all the way around the block even once yet.
> > > 
> > > "Write into you," is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell
> > > you where you can write into, mister.
> > > 
> > > > But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition,
> > > > as surely you must know, Authfriend.
> > > 
> > > Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with
> > > you there.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apologies from Robin and Judy

[maskedzebra]

Do I really have to ask you not to do this very douchey thing, Barry, really?

OK then I'll ask. Please don't sign my full name at the bottom of straw men 
versions
of my POV out of respect for the fact that most of us just skim posts within our
otherwise busy days and it is hard enough to keep track without this in the mix.
There were many statements in what you write here, Barry, that I wouldn't want 
anyone to
think I had generated. If you want to play fast and lose with accuracy and just
assume other people will keep up, please do it at your expense in the future,not
mine. This shit we put up on the Internet is FOREVER. It carries some
responsibilities.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Wow. Take a night off from Fairfield Life and it
> goes officially Bat Shit Crazy. I think that the
> bottom line on all this insanity should be given
> to the two people causing most of it:
> 
> APOLOGY FROM ROBIN: 
> Please forgive me, Curtis, and everyone. I was just 
> having a bad night, after realizing the truth about
> myself, that I am nothing more than a minor cult 
> wannabee who spent a few years in a minor wannabee 
> cult. And that I finally became so narcissistic and
> so deluded in that cult that I began to imagine that 
> I had the moxie to start my own cult. I failed 
> miserably at that, and was laughed out of town, and
> now I'm nothing. In the history of spirituality in 
> North America, I don't even deserve a footnote; I 
> was that minor and that passing a fad. Realizing
> all this just got me down, that's all, so I made
> up some shit about you. Sorry.
> - Robin W. Carlsen

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Judy, you do leave me speechless.  Almost.  It is at this point
> > > > I reflect on the last Narnia book, "The Last Battle", when the 
> > > > ape "Shift" turns the truth upside down.  And succeeds in doing
> > > > so for a while.  I guess that's a difference between that book 
> > > > and FFL.  I don't think anyone is fooled here, even for a moment.
> > > > 
> > > > I hope Robin doesn't turn on you here Judy.  That could happen 
> > > > you know.
> > > 
> > > ROBIN: Actually, this is the only moment in today's proceedings 
> > > where I feel you have hit a nerve, Steve. And I believe your 
> > > warning to Authfriend both timely and even portentous. I would
> > > ask you, Authfriend, to be careful at this point. Curtis and I 
> > > understand each other. I don't know you at all. And sometimes I
> > > think you act as if you know me much better than you do. Do you 
> > > understand this, Authfriend?
> > 
> > F*ck off, Zebra Baby. I don't give a crap about you and
> > your Issues; I'm after Curtis here. Don't get in the way,
> > OK? I know you better than I need to.
> > 
> > > You will thank Steve someday for his rebuke here. But funny
> > > thing is: the more I write into you, the more I like you!
> > 
> > Yeah, yeah, very funny. Take your levers and hooks and
> > grappling irons and go after somebody who hasn't made it
> > all the way around the block even once yet.
> > 
> > "Write into you," is that Canada-speak? Hey, I'll tell
> > you where you can write into, mister.
> > 
> > > But that doesn't change the wisdom of Steve's admonition,
> > > as surely you must know, Authfriend.
> > 
> > Nothing can ever change Steve's wisdom, I agree with
> > you there.
> >
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