IN some ways,MEG is teh klukiest looking of them all. It's super-conducting
magnets next the scalp (like EEG but with magnets instead of electrodes).
The crazy looking thing on top is the liquid-nitrogen refrigerator that keeps
the magnets cold. Machines like that are super expensive, but
Lawson, given the cost to buy and maintain, I don't see an MEG in MUM's future
any time soon. Anyway, if we wait, I bet the military will come up with
something better!
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:31 AM, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net
wrote:
IN some ways,MEG is teh klukiest looking
Ny money is on sophisticated analysis of high resolution EEG and MEG. fMRI is
pretty low-resolution, time-wise, and the interesting stuff can happen in way
under a second, which is the ilmitation of all the popular direct brain imaging
stuff.
Lawson
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
thanks for the info, Lawson. I've never heard of MEG before. And I admit, all
these machines seem kind of clunky but if they help us see the brain better,
great.
How best can the knower know itself?
On Monday, April 14, 2014 4:13 AM, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net
wrote:
Ny money
On 4/11/2014 10:55 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*As we know, Barry wasn't kicked out of either group. He left of his
own accord.*
So, how do we know either way? Maybe Barry never left the Rama group.
It's all about Barry.
Maybe it's time to review all the evidence. What if Barry was
On 4/12/2014 3:22 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:
They might be called to be based on placebo, because, IMU, faith
(shraddhaa) is theconditio
sine qua non of samaadhi.
Placebos aren't used in the treatment of disease and illness by
physicians. It would be difficult to make up a placebo
Thanks, Lawson. I think it'll be so much fun when we can see all these abstract
states, such as absolute faith, right there in the fMRI.
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 4:07 PM, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net
wrote:
IF you have absolute faith in samadhi, that is, if your samadhi is
On 4/12/2014 5:12 AM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
If you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could move mountains.
There is an element of faith in the enlightenment tradition - we have to
have faith that the goal of enlightenment is attainable.
This is because the notion of enlightenment is
On 4/12/2014 5:12 AM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
If you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could move mountains.
Yoga is a mechanical processes. There is no religious prayer in the
practice, it's not based on faith or a particular belief. Religions are
based on faith and surrender, not on
They might be called to be based on placebo, because, IMU, faith (shraddhaa) is
the conditio
sine qua non of samaadhi.
As an analogy, I'll try to explain in English, how I seem to recall to have
learned to bike (at about 7 years of age).
It might have been the very first time I ever tried
If you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could move mountains.
shraddhaa is translated as Faith which can mean trust, or belief without
proof. The Hebrew word translated as faith means something along the lines of
strong [in God] and the Greed word means something like intuitive knowledge.
We have only the Turq's word for that and they are of course very balanced and
trustworthy. Kicked out or barred as Williams points out amounts to the same
thing.
Then we had the fellow posting here who claimed the Turq was kept outside and
a good distance from Maharishi's door whenever he
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We have only the Turq's word for that and they are of course very balanced and
trustworthy. Kicked out or barred as Williams points out amounts to the same
thing.
Then we had
. :-) :-) :-)
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
We have only the Turq's word for that and they are of course very balanced
Oh please tell, tell 'em - I ain't never heard those stories!
On Sat, 4/12/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife
Thanks, Carde for both the good bike riding analogy and the brain info wrt
placebos. Not to mention both the Latin and the Sanskrit. My brain hummeth (-;
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:22 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com
cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:
They might be called to be based on placebo,
Lawson, thanks for the additional definitions of shraddha. Could you say more
about your last two sentences? I'm missing your main point somehow.
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:12 AM, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net
wrote:
If you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could move
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Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
We have only the Turq's word for that and they are of course very balanced and
trustworthy. Kicked out or barred
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
We have only the Turq's word for that and they are of course very balanced and
trustworthy. Kicked out or barred as Williams points out amounts to the same
thing.
Then we had the fellow posting here who claimed the Turq was kept outside
was that when the big reesh was giving lectures on what a great guy Adolph was?
On Sat, 4/12/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
To: FairfieldLife
When and where did he give these alleged lectures, Michael? How many were
there? What's your source?
was that when the big reesh was giving lectures on what a great guy Adolph
was?
IF you have absolute faith in samadhi, that is, if your samadhi is unshakable,
regardless of circumstances, then the ability to float might manifest.
And placebo might be related to that in some way as there are overlaps in
which brain circuits are activated during placebo effects and
Probably the Rama-fellow was high on drugs and forgot to snap his fingers
saying wake up after one of his mass-hypnosis :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
My gosh, are you saying that Barry has been hypnotized by Rama and doesn't
even know that he's been programmed
Is it true that the Governors got the siddhi-suutras in Sanskrit?
I mean, the YF suutra in Sanskrit I saw years ago (on minet.org, or somesuch)
is really strange, because, as I recall it, it seems to be based on Vyaasa's
and/or Bhoja's commentary
rather than the original suutras...
From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 9:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
Is it true that the Governors got the siddhi-suutras in Sanskrit?
No.
I mean, the YF
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Probably the Rama-fellow was high on drugs and forgot to snap his fingers
saying wake up after one of his mass-hypnosis :-)
That's actually funny, Nabby. Thanks for that little quip.
---In
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
its a joke, Ann - besides, Marshy would have had apoplexy had anyone suggested
taking a third of his money
According to various people here that is exactly what some governors did. And
at that point I don't think they would've
I doubt that even MUM has any courses in Sanskrit. At least I never
heard anyone who attended there say it was taught. You forget that some
of the governors including myself did the TM-Sidhi's course with the
Citizen's courses. They were said to be the same thing anyway. Doing
it that way
noozguru, when I was taking the MA in SCI 1991-92, we had a month of Sanskrit
with Tom Egenes who has a Ph D in it from Univ of Virginia. He still teaches
there but now the program is called MS in Vedic Science. People who go on for
the Ph D get to the point where they can read the Vedic
That's good because you need Sanskrit to really understand these ancient
texts. But I had never even heard from Vedic Science graduates if it
was taught. It was definitely an advantage for me when learning tantra.
On 04/11/2014 09:39 AM, Share Long wrote:
noozguru, when I was taking the MA
According to the guy who has the new MUMOSA site, they are teaching sanskrit now
On Fri, 4/11/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Reading the Vedic literature in the original and writing a dissertation about
one's experiences doing so is one Ph D track. Tom told us that Sanskrit doesn't
leave any impression in the chit. But I still remember some of the aphorisms.
And I love saying them. Maybe more placebo...(-:
Yeah, I
Nabs,
That's an excellent observation!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Probably the Rama-fellow was high on drugs and forgot to snap his fingers
saying wake up after one of his mass-hypnosis :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote
it back.
On Fri, 4/11/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 11, 2014, 1:48 PM
At least it would explain some, but alas not all, of the weird theories of the
Turq. Dr.D used to call him baby-barry but we know he simply never woke up from
hypnosis because his Buddhist guru forgot to call them back to reality. Would
explain why the Turq sees Dragons and other weird stuff
It would explain why the Turq sees Dragons and other weird stuff too :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Nabs,
That's an excellent observation!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Probably the Rama-fellow was high on drugs
It would explain why the Turq sees Dragons and other weird stuff too :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Nabs,
That's an excellent observation!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Probably the Rama-fellow was high on drugs
On 4/10/2014 11:21 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
if anyone ever does manage to float around the room due to Yogic
Flying practice, will it matter whether it is due to a placebo effect
or due to a non-placebo effect?
The Turq placebo effect theory is impossible because of the
impracticality
On 4/10/2014 11:38 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*As you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the
TMO or Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.*
Let me rephrase my statement so you can understand what it means to be
kicked out of a cult. Barry has already
As you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the TMO or
Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.
As you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the TMO or
Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.
Let me rephrase my statement so
On 4/11/2014 5:13 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*As you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the
TMO or Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.*
As you know,Judy, I am not disputing that Barry left the TMO or Lenz's
group of his own accord. But that's
Right. He left of his own accord rather than being kicked out. End of story. As
you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the TMO or
Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.
As you know,Judy, I am not disputing that Barry left the TMO or Lenz's group
of his own
On 4/11/2014 7:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Right. He left of his own accord rather than being kicked out. End of
story.
There is no evidence that Barry worked for the TMO or ever was a member
of the Rama group. But, IF the Turq HAD worked for the TMO or the Rama
group, he would have
As we know, Barry wasn't kicked out of either group. He left of his own accord.
Right. He left of his own accord rather than being kicked out. End of story.
There is no evidence that Barry worked for the TMO or ever was a member
of the Rama group. But, IF the Turq HAD worked for the TMO
Actually, what you paid for was pretty elaborate instruction in how to use
those English phrases (six weekends in my case for the CIC course, plus two
weeks, including room and board, at MUM for the flying block).
And in fact, nobody gets uptight (let alone really, really uptight) when
Barry
From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 3:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Are the TM-Sidhis nothing but Placebo Effect?
Actually, what you paid for was pretty elaborate instruction in how to use
those English
Reporters, note please that I was explicit that I was talking about my course
(see the parenthetical Barry carefully ignores) and that I was responding to
his claim about what you paid for (see below, in red)--not what I paid for.
It may have been what Barry paid for, but it wasn't what I paid
It could be that the TM siddhis are a form of auto-hypnotic suggestions. Or,
that human consciousness is the higher dimension in the universe above the
basic spacetime. As such, this is the reason why some highly evolved
individuals can see the past, present, and the future. This could be
CAN levitate?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
It could be that the TM siddhis are a form of auto-hypnotic suggestions. Or,
that human consciousness is the higher dimension in the universe above the
basic spacetime. As such, this is the reason why some highly
On 4/10/2014 2:48 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
CAN levitate?
Could levitate.
According to Barry, Rama could levitate at will and float over thousands
of people in a golden light.
The levitation I and thousands of other people witnessed *was* real.
We saw it. We felt it. - TurquoiseB
On 4/10/2014 2:43 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
It could be that the TM siddhis are a form of auto-hypnotic suggestions.
That's what I'm saying. In a case like the Rama levitation event, Lenz
could have taught his inner circle TB followers how to self-hypnotize
themselves, or to later become
My gosh, are you saying that Barry has been hypnotized by Rama and doesn't even
know that he's been programmed to post anti-TM propaganda all of these years?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 4/10/2014 2:43 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote:
It could be
On 4/10/2014 6:09 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
My gosh, are you saying that Barry has been hypnotized by Rama and
doesn't even know that he's been programmed to post anti-TM propaganda
all of these years?
That's what Barry said happens to cultists, so ergo, I guess that's what
happened to
As you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the TMO or
Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.
That's what Barry said happens to cultists, so ergo, I guess that's what
happened to him. I see no reason why he should have escaped the same
conditions.
On 4/10/2014 10:17 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*As you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the
TMO or Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.*
Everyone knows that when someone on international staff goes over to
another cult leader and gives him money
I was taught that the TM-SIdhis were meant to help further growth towards
higher states of consciousness. From that perspective, they seem to work
And... if anyone ever does manage to float around the room due to Yogic Flying
practice, will it matter whether it is due to a placebo effect or
As you know, Richard, there's no evidence Barry got kicked out of the TMO or
Lenz's group rather than leaving of his own accord.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
On 4/10/2014 10:17 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
As you know, Richard, there's no
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