[FairfieldLife] Re: Ashtavakra Gita -fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realizaion

2007-09-26 Thread cardemaister 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 again. 1.18
 Just as a mirror exists everywhere both within and apart from its 
reflected images, so the 
 Supreme Lord exists everywhere within and apart from this body. 1.19
 Just as one and the same all-pervading space exists within and 
without a jar,

That's obviously archaic use of without (outside?)...


 so the 
 eternal, everlasting God exists in the totality of things. 1.20

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ashtavakra Gita -fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realizaion

2007-09-26 Thread cardemaister 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When there is no me, that is liberation, and when there is me 
there is bondage. 

yadaa naahaM tadaa moksho yadaahaM bandhanaM tadaa .

yadaa (when) na (not) aham (I) tadaa (then) mokSaH (liberation)
yadaa (when) aham (I) bandhanam (bondage) tadaa (then)

 Consider this carefully, and neither hold on to anything nor 
reject anything. 8.4

matveti [matvaa + iti] helayaa ki.nchinmaa gR^ihaaNa vimu.ncha 
maa .. 8\-4..

Considering (matvaa) thus (iti) carefully (helayaa: easily,
sportively - M-W.) kiñcit (anything) maa (do not) gRhaaNa (hold)
vimuñca (reject) maa (do not).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ashtavakra Gita -fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realizaion

2007-09-26 Thread cardemaister 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote:
 
  When there is no me, that is liberation, and when there 
is me 
 there is bondage. 
 
 yadaa naahaM tadaa moksho yadaahaM bandhanaM tadaa .
 
 yadaa (when) na (not) aham (I) tadaa (then) mokSaH (liberation)
 yadaa (when) aham (I) bandhanam (bondage) tadaa (then)
 
  Consider this carefully, and neither hold on to anything nor 
 reject anything. 8.4
 
 matveti [matvaa + iti] helayaa ki.nchinmaa gR^ihaaNa vimu.ncha 
 maa .. 8\-4..
 
 Considering (matvaa) thus (iti) carefully (helayaa: easily,
 sportively - M-W.) kiñcit (anything) maa (do not) gRhaaNa (hold)
 vimuñca (reject) maa (do not).


Oops!  ;)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ashtavakra Gita -fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realizaion

2007-09-26 Thread george_deforest 
 cardemaister wrote:
  again. 1.18
  Just as a mirror exists everywhere both within and apart from its 
 reflected images, so the 
  Supreme Lord exists everywhere within and apart from this body. 1.19
  Just as one and the same all-pervading space exists within and 
  without a jar,
 
 That's obviously archaic use of without (outside?)...
 

yes; and the Beatles played with the 2 usages in this lyric:

And the time will come when you see we're all one, 
and life flows on within you and without you.

gotta love it