--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am solely addressing the issue recent posts raised in my mind of > > > "how widespread is the term and concept 'brain-wave coherence' (BWC) > > > used by scientists not associated with the TMO". My preferred method, > > > was to start with a search 'brain-wave coherence' to see who the > > > leading users are. > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=brain-wave > > > +coherence&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en- US:official > > > > > > produced 18 separate sites on the first two pages of links. 12 of the > > > first 13 were TM related, as were 13 of these 18 -- The five > > > non-TMo-related sites were > > > > > > One site was a discussion group blurb: > > > ">>I have some acquaintance with EEG signal processing, brainwave > > > coherence > > > >>analysis, and attempts to correlate these to anything like cognitive > > > states or > > > >>mental command. I believe it's possible in theory, and maybe in > > > commercial > > > >>practice, but I'm unaware of ANY (non-classified anyway) success > > > stories. > > > One to two dimensions of control can relatively easily be obtained > > > from EEG." > > > > > > 2 vendors of home bio-feedback equipment > > > > > > 1 music product > > > > > > 1 Bio-feedback doctor > > > > > > These last four, I classify as new-age sites. > > > > > > None were reflecting mainstream scientists doing research, publishing > > > papers, speaking at conferences,etc. or other things reflecting that > > > the term BWC was a prominent or even existing theme or concept > > > outside the TMO or related endeavors. > > > > > > My preliminary conclusion from this search is that in popular > > > mainstream areas (not scientific papers) BWC has been primarily > > > championed by the TMO. > > > > > > So I tried a search of scientific journals. > > > > > > My preliminary sense in reviewing these articles s that BWC in the > > > scientific commnuty may have several quantitiative meanings, e.g. > > > "multidimensional directed coherence" (see below) which, it is > > > unknown (by me) at this point if these methodologies of measurement / > > > definitional concepts etc of BWC are the same,similar or distinct > > > different from those employed by the TMO 30 years ago. > > > > > > Second, some articles appear to point to cohenrence be mundane and > > > normal -- even in monkeys, not a "big deal" in itself. > > > > > > Third, there are only several, but not a majority of articles, on how > > > great BWC is, and how it improves human performance or is beneficial > > > in some way. (Counter to what I would have expected if the scientific > > > community viewed BWC with the same grandeur as the TMO.) > > > > > > > > > Doesn't anyone ever read what I write. > > Um, all 67,984 posts per week? Um, not always. > > >I mentioned the article in Scientific American a week > > or two ago > > You are so worthy for doing so.
Yes I am. > > >that says explicitly that EEG coherence is correlated with > >evolutionary scale: the > > higher a creature is, the more likely it is to show "intelligent > behavior" or somesuch. > > And this is based on a series of studies on primates? or some unnamed > guy a SA's speculation? If the former, what are the article cites. > Based on the work of the late Theodore Bullock, http://myprofile.cos.com/bullockt82s > > Humans show the highest levels of EEG coherence, primates and > dolphins (I assume) show > > thenext highest. > > Studies? or speculation. Basically part of the work of the last 10 years of his life judging by his publications. > > What form of BWC? Multi-dimensiona, etc? Was the same form used for > all primates in all these alleged studies. > > > And why did you go with google scholar? > > Um because I was on the google site at the time. Is there something > inherently inferior with GS? > > > > If you want refereed scientific journal references, use pubmed: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed > > > > search term: eeg coherence > > > > 1081 references starting in 1968 and moving forward. > > I found 83 for BWC. Showing BWC in sleep. And something related to > smoking crack cocaine. Hoepfully it doesn't indicate crack increases BWC. > > Obviously "brainwave coherence" isn't the common scientific term. EEG coherence, on the other hand, is... hint hint... > > > > BTW, EEG coherence can imply pathological conditions, depending. > Epilepsy involves EEG > > coherence, for instance. However, that doesn't mean that all TMers > are epileptic since the > > kind of coherence and its location is radically different than what > is found in TM. > > And TMs location is a priori good? or, has research shown that the TM > areas are "special" and a BFD? > The EEG locations are correlated with reports of pure consciousness. Is that good or not? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
