[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brahmanada wouldn't even be accessible to us if not for Maharishi, so its impossible to separate the two-- they are continuously working in tandem; one heart and one goal. This notion that Guru Dev has somehow spurned Maharishi or that Maharishi is lost in the sauce is a silly one from my point of view. I respect others' points of view on this though-- seriously. They share the same breath as I see it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, what's the american word for my reaction to this put down from you Jim ? Oh yes; rats... :-) I wasn't putting you down-- more replying in kind to John's sarcasm. I answered your post directly as you can see. It was a joke :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Now, what's the american word for my reaction to this put down from you Jim ? Oh yes; rats... :-) I wasn't putting you down-- more replying in kind to John's sarcasm. I answered your post directly as you can see. It was a joke :-) rats!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Brahmanada wouldn't even be accessible to us if not for Maharishi, so its impossible to separate the two-- they are continuously working in tandem; one heart and one goal. This notion that Guru Dev has somehow spurned Maharishi or that Maharishi is lost in the sauce is a silly one from my point of view. I respect others' points of view on this though-- seriously. They share the same breath as I see it. Thanks for that insight-- makes sense intuitively.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev My experience is that Maharishi is nothing like Guru Dev *at all* . At one time he may have been. But no longer. It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Maharishi's phony bullshit 'rajas' trip with king Tony and all the trappings and clap-trap is a ghastly travesty in my eyes. The closest Guru Dev came to such nonsense was the traditional pomp and ceremony of the common people who loved him; the religion and tradition being participated in by the people *themselves*, the people Guru Dev served: ~~~Acharya Shri [Guru Dev] was as much at home with men of reason as he was with men of blind faith, who deified him. He participated whole-heartedly in the pageantry loved by the common people. Invariably he would be taken out in a procession passing through the main thoroughfares of the city. Arches would be constructed. The route would be decorated with flags and flowers. Almost everyone would turn out to have his darshan. Many devotees with big bowls containing sandalwood paste wqould move along applying it on the river of reverent foreheads on either side. He would inch along sitting in a decorated chariot that stopped every few yards. People would come forward and garland him and worship him in the traditional style. There would be a continuous shower of petals from the precariously packed roofs. and balconies of houses lining the route. What did he think of all of this 'tamasha'? He made it clear many a time, as he did with the citizens of Kanpur, there was no need really to give me the sort of lavish welcome that you have just done. Yet Indian culture requires that the Guru should be given the highest respect and welcome, and therefore I do not object to all this fanfare and accept it. But there is yet a bigger welcome that all of you can give me. I have stepped down from the Himalayas and therefore deserve perhaps a Himalayan welcome. That welcome you can give me by giving me your most valuable possession. What is your most valuable possession? Welcome me with that. My experience is that human beings value their vices above everything else. They are not prepared to part with them at any cost. Expense one does not consider. One is even prepared to suffer insult and injury for the satisfaction of one's most prized vice. So make offerings of those vices to me.. That is my service. That is my worship. That offering I willingly accept. In Kanpur there is a custom to make offerings in bags.. But I am not one to be satisfied with offerings of rupees and paisas, which are like dist and pebbles to me. Offer to me bagfuls of your vices.~~~ ~~ From a biography of Guru Dev, 'Strange Facts About A Great Saint', by Dr. Raj R. P. Vama (pages 67-68)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev My experience is that Maharishi is nothing like Guru Dev *at all* . At one time he may have been. But no longer. It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev My experience is that Maharishi is nothing like Guru Dev *at all* . At one time he may have been. But no longer. It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. I see you ignored the points made and what Guru Dev actually *did* say. I write to another religious forum where 'true believers' perform your similar kind of tap dance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. We are all ears if you want to share something ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from Guru Dev.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from Guru Dev. OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always available anyway...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from Guru Dev. OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always available anyway... And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's bullshit trip.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always available anyway... And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's trip. That's you fantasy brother ! Is that supposed to be a coherent response?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from Guru Dev. OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always available anyway... And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's bullshit trip. Well when you put it that way, yes, I agree.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always available anyway... And as far as I can tell, he isn't supporting Maharishi's trip. That's you fantasy brother !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi [snip] Maharishi got completely absorbed in Guru Dev's Being and became That. Maharishi is not only the disciple who is just like the Master. He is the Master. He is Guru Dev and therefore I have to sit at his feet.' Jai Guru Dev It appears to me that, as Charlie Lutes said many years ago, Maharishi has taken a left turn away from God. Guru Dev has a lot more to say about it today-- keep listening. We are all ears if you want to share something ;-) Yeah, Jim. Spill forth any 'new' explanation you have received from Guru Dev. OK, let's all join hands in a circle and concentrate on The Master...Ommmwhat, are you nuts? This is for you to listen to Him, not for me to entertain you with something...He IS always available anyway... Now, what's the american word for my reaction to this put down from you Jim ? Oh yes; rats... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beautiful stories about Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone sent me these: Stories about Maharishi The Shankaracharya's Welcome to Maharishi Jyotir Math, India, 1975 From the tradition of Shri Shankaracharya He is the disciple just like the Master: Destroyer of tamas of the inner Self, King of Rishis, And from the darkness of the people He is the bestower of light. Greatest of the great, greater than greatness, He is indeed the reason for the welfare of the tradition. Bestower of the calmness in the three layers of existence, Incarnation of Yoga, indeed of Shankara, Whose speech is true speech, Whose demeanor is precise, Whose actions are compassionate, Whose fame is compelling, In the world of all men He is the inner Self. The course of His speech is the incarnate form of Indra. the Creator. O Mahesh Yogi, let Your benevolence be extended unto me, Great Rishi, King of Rishis, Rishi of Gods. From the light of the Himalayas to the level of the plains He resides in the midst of Shankaracharya Nagar. Sri Ananda Mayi Ma In 1981 during the Vedic Science course in Delhi, Maharishi sent a large group to the Taj Mahal for a visit. While in Agra, the group heard that the great saint Sri Ananda Mayee Ma was at her place in Vrindavan, which was on the route back to Delhi from Agra. Maharishi enthusiastically said the group should visit her and to take shawls, saris, fruits, garlands, sweets masses of them as our gift. The group arrived at twilight and meditated in a group outside her house while waiting for their chance to go up to the roof of the house where she gave darshan. While the group was waiting two giant white birds flew low over her house the celestial quality of the sight made everyone gasp. Dr. Bevan Morris asked the receptionist to inform Sri Ananda Mayee Ma that we were from Maharishi. But the group had to go up in sections of ten as the space was limited. Dr. Morris went up in the last group, and found that Sri Ananda Mayee Ma was sitting deeply withdrawn not paying attention to the people coming and going, and the pile of cloth, flowers, fruit etc. that had been placed in front of her. At that stage she was very elderly, and near the end of her Earth days. It was immediately obvious to Dr. Morris that she had not been told that this was Maharishi's group. He asked the administrator again to please tell Sri Ananda Mayee Ma that these people were sent by Maharishi to see her. The administrator began to speak to her in Bengali and at the point where he said Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Sri Ananda Mayee Ma suddenly sat bolt upright and folded her palms together, and then started grabbing fruits and flowers and wrapping them up in packages, and giving them to us to deliver to Maharishi. Then she gave a sublime message of devoted greeting and love to convey to Maharishi. The group upon reaching Delhi delivered this message to Maharishi's great joy. * * * On another occasion Maharishi was doing Puja with Sri Ananda Mayee Ma at her place in Haridwar, but finally Maharishi had to go. He told Sri Ananda Mayee Ma, Ma you stay here and continue, and I will go. She seemed to agree and let him go, but after a few moments got up and followed Maharishi out to the car, walking a little behind him with the sweetness of a small child. There was a mala wala a garland salesman with a basket full to the brim with marigold garlands on the street there, and Sri Ananda Mayee Ma pointed to him so that her assistant purchased the whole basket. Then Sri Ananda Mayee Ma took the whole basket to where Maharishi was now sitting in the car, and she tipped the whole basket of garlands through the window into his lap. Ananda Mayee Ma is considered the greatest lady saint of modern India, enlightened from a young girl, an expression of Mother Divine. She left the world in 1982. It was her custom to send westerners who visited to Maharishi to learn Transcendental Meditation for example, Peter Wallace, the brother of Keith. Her devotion to Maharishi shows again that we have grasped very little of the grandeur of Maharishi's personality and status, and his role in the universe. Tat Wala Baba During the Teacher Training Course with Maharishi in the Academy of Meditation Shankaracharya Nagar in Rishikesh at the end of 1969, a course that included many of the greatest luminaries of the Movement, the course participants asked Maharishi if the famous recluse saint Tat Wala Baba could come to visit the course, as had happened in previous courses. Tat Wala Baba was living in a cave about three miles up in the hills behind our Academy. It was his custom to only come out once a day for one hour to let visitors enjoy his darshan. There was a lean-to just below his cave for this purpose. He was a very powerful man, very muscular like a wrestler,
