[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: As to whether the benefit of the P group is for all, I am skeptical. It begs the question, 'what *isn't* for the benefit of all?'. Can't think of anything... Second-hand cigarette

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the whole concept of people living in supposedly rarified spiritual environments supported by others turns out to be quite a lie, in the case of the 'P' or 'MD' groups, for example. I like what Rick said

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- jim_flanegin wrote: It is a dreamy and sugary thought to associate some sort of gentle pious life with liberation, but in fact there is no connection at all. None. Gentle, pious living has helped me enormously in the past, so I don't discount its value. But I can't say as it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I still believe that long periods of time spent meditating are wonderful.Everyone should have that chance for a few months in a lifetime. Yes, absolutely! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin wrote: It is a dreamy and sugary thought to associate some sort of gentle pious life with liberation, but in fact there is no connection at all. None. Gentle, pious living has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still believe that long periods of time spent meditating are wonderful.Everyone should have that chance for a few months in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread Peter
--- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still believe that long periods of time spent meditating are wonderful.Everyone should have that chance for a few months in a lifetime. I treasure the time I spent on long TM courses like teacher training or ATR's or courses. I think the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- jim_flanegin wrote: As to whether the benefit of the P group is for all, I am skeptical. It begs the question, 'what *isn't* for the benefit of all?'. Can't think of anything... Second-hand cigarette smoke? Regardless, you have a fortunate point of view! I don't discount the Purusha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-25 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still believe that long periods of time spent meditating are wonderful.Everyone should have that chance for a few months in a lifetime. I treasure the time I spent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing that's fascinating to me is the trickle- down craziness involved with this. It's not just a case of some lazy fucks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread wayback71
There is another thing to remember about asking for ongoing support, especially with Purusha and MD. Part of this process for them involves writing letters and emails to their donors - giving inside and on the spot info about what is going on in the TMO. It is sweet and really involves

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
This assumes, wrongly IMO, that the people doing the giving want phony, glowing reports--in effect, mood-making over anything of substance. When I was a donor I would have given anything for a little honesty. It was the feeling of donating to a seriously flawed cause and to people who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread wayback71
We are on the same page, Sal. I too stopped giving ( and i never gave all that much), and one reason was the lack of honesty, the sense that everyone was pretending to one degree or another. The other reason I stopped is because I felt the entire TMO was off-track regarding money on every

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 24, 2006, at 4:13 PM, wayback71 wrote: We are on the same page, Sal.  I too stopped giving ( and i never gave all that much), and one reason was the lack of honesty, the sense that everyone was pretending to one degree or another. The other reason I stopped is because I felt the entire

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/24/06 3:49 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is another thing to remember about asking for ongoing support, especially with Purusha and MD. Part of this process for them involves writing letters and emails to their donors - giving inside and on the spot info about what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing that's fascinating to me is the trickle- down craziness involved with this. It's not just a case of some lazy fucks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/24/06 3:49 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is another thing to remember about asking for ongoing support, especially with Purusha and MD. Part of this process for them involves writing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 4:13 PM, wayback71 wrote: We are on the same page, Sal.  I too stopped giving ( and i never gave all that much), and one reason was the lack of honesty, the sense that everyone was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Begging money and charity

2006-01-24 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/24/06 3:49 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is another thing to remember about asking for ongoing support, especially with Purusha and MD. Part of this process for them involves writing