Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Tax Panel Recommendations

2005-10-12 Thread Bhairitu
anonymousff wrote:

Tax breaks for homeownership particularly help the wealthy while
lower-income people don't get enough benefits, said panelists such as
Liz Ann Sonders, the chief investment officer at San Francisco-based
Charles Schwab Corp. The current incentives, including the fact that
most home sales are tax-free, are driving up home prices, making them
unaffordable or pushing lower-income borrowers to take out risky
mortgages.

``We are starting to see some significant pain here,'' Sonders said.

The panel agreed to a proposal by former IRS Commissioner Charles
Rossotti to make it easier for lower income Americans to get a tax
break for donating money to charity.



This is just more pure b.s by the PResident and his cronies who are
easily the biggest crooks and liars and distorters of reality than
have ever run this country. Reading their b.s is like being on a bad
acid trip which I have had.

One of the benefits of owning a home for the lower income people is
the tax benefit. How many impoverised people are likely to increase
the money they donate?! 

What a bunch of amazingly crooked s**t.
  

I agree, you have to watch this bunch like a hawk before they pick your 
pockets.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Tax Panel Recommendations

2005-10-11 Thread m2smart4u2000
It seems that getting health insurance is just a losing game. 
S Corps cannot deduct, as an expense, health insurance paid for 
employees, C corps can deduct it. If you pay for your own health 
insurance and are self employeed, you can deduct it. Now they want to 
tax the health insurance benefit? This is weird. I read that the 
interest deduction would be limited to primary residence. 
Seems to me, that this change hurts the middle class, which is quickly 
dwindling.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Tax Panel Recommendations

2005-10-11 Thread anonymousff

 
 Tax breaks for homeownership particularly help the wealthy while
 lower-income people don't get enough benefits, said panelists such as
 Liz Ann Sonders, the chief investment officer at San Francisco-based
 Charles Schwab Corp. The current incentives, including the fact that
 most home sales are tax-free, are driving up home prices, making them
 unaffordable or pushing lower-income borrowers to take out risky
 mortgages.
 
 ``We are starting to see some significant pain here,'' Sonders said.
 
 The panel agreed to a proposal by former IRS Commissioner Charles
 Rossotti to make it easier for lower income Americans to get a tax
 break for donating money to charity.

This is just more pure b.s by the PResident and his cronies who are
easily the biggest crooks and liars and distorters of reality than
have ever run this country. Reading their b.s is like being on a bad
acid trip which I have had.

One of the benefits of owning a home for the lower income people is
the tax benefit. How many impoverised people are likely to increase
the money they donate?! 

What a bunch of amazingly crooked s**t.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Tax Panel Recommendations

2005-10-11 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems that getting health insurance is just a losing game. 
 S Corps cannot deduct, as an expense, health insurance paid for 
 employees, C corps can deduct it. If you pay for your own health 
 insurance and are self employeed, you can deduct it.
 Now they want to 
 tax the health insurance benefit? This is weird. 


There should be equal deductions across teh board for all types of
employees and business owners. The propose deduction cap is $11,000 /
year which covers most employees. It would simply cap some high cost
executive policies.



 I read that the 
 interest deduction would be limited to primary residence. 
 Seems to me, that this change hurts the middle class, which is 
 quickly   dwindling.

Tax incentives are intended to have a purpose -- not just a giveaway
to a large block of voters -- which mortgage deductibility has become.

The original and only sound economically justifiable intent is to
encourage INCREASED home ownership. That is, to subsidize the marginal
buyer, lower income, first time buyers -- entry level buyers. A
$350,000 mortgage deductibility cap does that in almost all markets. I
think its overkill, and should be limited to 100k. 

The deduction is a drag on the economy. It induces higher investments
in housing at the expense of capital investments which improve
[productivity -- which is the main driver of wage rates. Wages and
salaries, as well as the rate of technological innovation, are lower
than they could / should be, year after year, due to the high mortgage
deductibity limits which benefit the wealthy far more than the middle
class. As if we need an incentive for people to upgrade from a 4,000
sf house to a 6,000 sf house!









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Tax Panel Recommendations

2005-10-11 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
  Tax breaks for homeownership particularly help the wealthy while
  lower-income people don't get enough benefits, said panelists such as
  Liz Ann Sonders, 

[she is a total babe, btw]

the chief investment officer at San Francisco-based  Charles Schwab
Corp. The current incentives, including the fact that most home sales
are tax-free, are driving up home prices, making them  unaffordable or
pushing lower-income borrowers to take out risky
mortgages.

  ``We are starting to see some significant pain here,'' Sonders said.

  The panel agreed to a proposal by former IRS Commissioner Charles
  Rossotti to make it easier for lower income Americans to get a tax
  break for donating money to charity.

 
 This is just more pure b.s by the PResident and his cronies who are
 easily the biggest crooks and liars and distorters of reality than
 have ever run this country. Reading their b.s is like being on a bad
 acid trip which I have had.

And what specific tax policy recomendations do you disagree with. For
the most part, they look courageous and represent changes that are
long overdue.
 
 One of the benefits of owning a home for the lower income people is
 the tax benefit. 

And what is the economic benefic / justification for that? Without  
deductions above 350,000, house prices will fall, allowing greater
affordability. And the economy will be stronger, wages and salaries
will increase. Technology innovation will increase. Mortgage
deductions, except perhaps at the very lowest end, are quite unsound
from an economic policy perspective.

And a $350,000 cap will not affect the average US bmost buyers -- the
average and median priced home is still below $350,000


 
 What a bunch of amazingly crooked s**t.

I understand you are angry at Bush. Going beyond that, and focusing on
the the tax proposals,what specific tax policy recomendations do you
disagree with? 






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