[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Hitler had ruined this symbol The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? Who? ...probably the likely billions of religious people who have lived over the ages who have considered it a sacred religious symbol long before the Nazis ever existed ...and those who still do consider it so within the original religious contexts. The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Paula Gloria or her real last name Tsconas has no business displaying such types of religious symbols that holds immense power and when abused you can see what happened, unleashed destructive forces. She has no idea what she is doing. According to whom? The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? Who? ...probably the likely billions of religious people who have lived over the ages who have considered it a sacred religious symbol long before the Nazis ever existed ...and those who still do consider it so within the original religious contexts. The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: Swastika was a nice touch, only a tiny bit distracting and creepy You mean like the one in this picture to the left of Guru Dev? [Portrait of Guru Dev] Picture of Guru Dev: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/photos/puja.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Paula Gloria, a former TMer, comments on the Mahabharata. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVADjFUnrdofeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Swastika was a nice touch, only a tiny bit distracting and creepy You mean like the one in this picture to the left of Guru Dev? [Portrait of Guru Dev] Picture of Guru Dev: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/photos/puja.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Paula Gloria, a former TMer, comments on the Mahabharata. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVADjFUnrdofeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. The swastika is considered extremely holy and auspicious by all Hindus, and is regularly used to decorate items related to Hindu culture. It is used in Hindu yantras and religious designs. Throughout the subcontinent of India, it can be seen on the sides of temples, religious scriptures, gift items, and letterheads. The Hindu deity Ganesh is often shown sitting on a lotus flower on a bed of swastikas. ~ The swastika (from Sanskrit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit svastika) is an equilateral http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equilateral cross http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross with its arms bent at right angles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle#Types_of_angles , in either right-facing (å) form or its mirrored left-facing (å) form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic period. It occurs today in the modern day culture of India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India , sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol; it remains widely used in Eastern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_religions and Dharmic religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharmic_religions such as Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism , Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism and Jainism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism . Historically, the swastika became a sacred symbol in Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism , Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism , Jainism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism , Mithraism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism Shamanism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism ; religions with a total of more than a billion adherents worldwide, making the swastika ubiquitous in both historical and contemporary society. The symbol was introduced to Southeast Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia by Hindu kings and remains an integral part of Balinese Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Indonesia to this day, and it is a common sight in Indonesia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia . and The symbol rose to importance in Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism during the Mauryan Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauryan_Empire and in Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism with the decline of Buddhism in India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Buddhism_in_India during the Gupta Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupta_Empire . With the spread of Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_transmission_of_Buddhism , the Buddhist swastika reached Tibet and China. The use of the swastika by the indigenous Bön http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B6n faith of Tibet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet , as well as syncretic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncretism religions, such as Cao Dai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Dai of Vietnam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam and Falun Gong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong of China, is thought to be borrowed from Buddhism as well. The symbol can also be found on many Buddhist temples throughout Korea. Hinduism [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Swastika_doors\ tep_crop.jpg/220px-Swastika_doorstep_crop.jpg] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Swastika_doorstep_crop.jpg Swastika on the doorstep of an apartment in Maharashtra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharashtra , India http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India In Hinduism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism , the two symbols represent the two forms of the creator god Brahma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma : facing right it represents the evolution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_%28philosophy%29 of the universe (Devanagari: Pravritti), facing left it represents the involution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involution_%28esoterism%29 of the universe (Devanagari: Nivritti). It is also seen as pointing in all four directions (north, east, south and west) and thus signifies grounded stability. Its use as a Sun symbol can first be seen in its representation of the god Surya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya (Devanagari: Sun). The swastika is considered extremely holy and auspicious by all Hindus, and is regularly used to decorate items related to Hindu culture. It is used in all Hindu yantras http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yantra and religious designs. Throughout the subcontinent of India, it can be seen on the sides of temples,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? Who? ...probably the likely billions of religious people who have lived over the ages who have considered it a sacred religious symbol long before the Nazis ever existed ...and those who still do consider it so within the original religious contexts. The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Yep just like the picture --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: Swastika was a nice touch, only a tiny bit distracting and creepy You mean like the one in this picture to the left of Guru Dev? [Portrait of Guru Dev] Picture of Guru Dev: http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/photos/puja.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Paula Gloria, a former TMer, comments on the Mahabharata. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVADjFUnrdofeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Hitler had ruined this symbol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? Who? ...probably the likely billions of religious people who have lived over the ages who have considered it a sacred religious symbol long before the Nazis ever existed ...and those who still do consider it so within the original religious contexts. The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Paula Gloria or her real last name Tsconas has no business displaying such types of religious symbols that holds immense power and when abused you can see what happened, unleashed destructive forces. She has no idea what she is doing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 11, 2010, at 1:55 PM, do.rflex wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Traditionally, the swastika is a sign of good luck among the Hindus. Somehow, Hitler picked up on this sign for his Third Reich movement since he thought it came from the Aryans who invaded India. There's also a Tai Chi movement in China which uses the swastika for its insignia. Needless to say, this movement is not doing very well in the USA. The swastika is much more than a good luck sign to the religions of the East. Who gives a crap about any of that? Who? ...probably the likely billions of religious people who have lived over the ages who have considered it a sacred religious symbol long before the Nazis ever existed ...and those who still do consider it so within the original religious contexts. The fact that the Nazis in the last century dramatically distorted and twisted and horrifically shamed the accepted historic meanings of the swastika for a short time, doesn't erase or eliminate its centuries' long held significance and meaning to multiple cultures and religious traditions. It has since been co-opted by the Nazis (who knew what they were doing in terms of white superiority, etc) and has since become the most hated symbol in the world. Any attempt to paint rosier pictures is just plain creepy. End of story. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Divine Weapons, part 1
Swastika was a nice touch, only a tiny bit distracting and creepy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: Paula Gloria, a former TMer, comments on the Mahabharata. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVADjFUnrdofeature=related
