[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: Marek,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-07 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Reportedly heavy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-07 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-07 Thread Peter
--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 no_reply@ wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK provide me with a dub of his interview with Swaroopanand, I would not hesitate in sharing its contents with a wider audience. I doubt the reason that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK provide me with a dub of his interview with Swaroopanand, I would not hesitate in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, when MMY was asked for a reaction to the Linda Pierce accusation that they had sex together, he is said to have advised psychiatric treatment for her (in spite of his long-held reservations about psychiatry). When I read your accusations, I am tempted to a similar response. ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
Allegedly, when MMY was asked for a reaction to the Linda Pearce accusation that they had sex together, he is said to have advised psychiatric treatment for her (in spite of his long-held reservations about psychiatry). When I read your accusations, I am tempted to make a similar response. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Vaj
I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses.On Aug 5, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Paul Mason wrote:I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the  biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK  provide me with a dub of his interview with

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/5/06 6:58 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allegedly, when MMY was asked for a reaction to the Linda Pierce accusation that they had sex together, he is said to have advised

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Mason
It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression he was so set against its application generally. So for him to make this exception underscored the weight of the reaction. But, whether the journalist got the remark

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression he was so set against its application generally. So for him to make this exception

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/5/06 10:53 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/5/06 11:36 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything negative towards Guru Dev? What would be the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses. On Aug 5, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Paul Mason wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK provide me with a dub of his interview with Swaroopanand, I would not hesitate in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression he was so set against its application generally. So for him to make this exception

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything negative towards Guru Dev? What would be the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses. On Aug 5, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Paul Mason wrote: I have already included

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/5/06 11:36 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: It was so long ago, but I remember

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I can only assume that there were dozens of devotees who loved and cared for Guru Dev and that they all, including MMY, had his best interests at heart. And the decision how to treat him must have been taken

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses. On

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Marek Reavis
Fine post. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at babajii_99@ wrote: And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] I can only assume that there were dozens of devotees who loved and cared for Guru Dev and that they all, including MMY, had his best

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread gerbal88
Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, or JFK. There are some loose ends, or the appearance of loose ends and,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Diana, Princess of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are right, that Guru Dev's demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a rumour start if this was, indeed, the case. It is very much like the death of Diana, Princess of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick, I am not familiar with Fairfield life, but wouldn't you rather be with Maharishi than some Indian lady, even if she is doing some good? How can the little good she is doing compare with total

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: Hi Rick, I am not familiar with Fairfield life, but wouldn't you rather be with Maharishi than some Indian lady, even if she is doing some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
I agree with you, bit I do wonder how people will feel when the books about inappropriate sexual conduct come out? There will be lots of denial, but I also wonder if eventually people will be angry that secrets were kept for so many years. Some people have NO idea about this stuff and it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 5:35 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really nice, thoughtful reply, Rick. Re the part about not wanting to disillusion people unless they want to be disillusioned - I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should that be a problem with anyone ? If it is true. Maharishi is a master, but I have no problem whatsover with the idea that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should that be a problem with anyone ? If it is true. Maharishi is a Master, but I have no problem whatsover with the idea that he might have been active in that area. The only people I think could get angry is the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote:Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers  to adopt that lifestyle? Has Maharishi rescently claimed to be a life celibate? What's your  source for this claim ?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
Yes. I personally heard him say all those things, and still, nobody cared. :) I don't think the reason you and others are upset has anything whatsoever to do with what country you come from. I think it has to do with the last part of your sentence--you feel betrayed. MMY not only turned out

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
KING: You're a bachelor. MAHARISHI: ...monks. CNN - LARRY KING WEEKEND Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Aired 12 May 2002 - 9-10 p.m. ET Fine, he says he is a monk. Does not mean he has been that for ever in the past. I could say the say thing actually - for the last year or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 10:05 AM, nablus108 wrote:I don't care if these rumours are true or not. They surfaced after  Muktananda and Krishnamurthi left the body also, and I don't think it  really made any difference for their disciples. I think you need to look at the ex-SYDA pages. Some pretty

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 5:35 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really nice, thoughtful reply, Rick. Re the part about not wanting to disillusion people unless they want to be disillusioned - I agree with you, bit I do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should that be a problem with anyone ? If it is true. Maharishi is a master, but I have no problem whatsover with the idea that he might have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers to adopt that lifestyle? Has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KING: You're a bachelor. MAHARISHI: ...monks. CNN - LARRY KING WEEKEND Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Aired 12 May 2002 - 9-10 p.m. ET Fine, he says he is a monk. Does not mean he has been that for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers to adopt that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 9:17 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case, I heard rumors in the 70's and dismissed them. But a few years later began to wonder as more information appeared. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 9:52 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all sure where you get the idea that his reputation was based on large part on a claim to be a life celibate. In what way

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 10:00 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall hearing on a course back in the early 70s' that his name did not include BAL - it was just Bramachari Mahesh. We

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
Gradually, everyone here seems to be remoulding their view of MMY to conform with the whispered rumours, but personally I still doubt the rumours that MMY ever got laid. I suspect that had he got into sex he would likely have worked it into his teachings, as he has done with everything else he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
Good points, some comments interwoven. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my own case, I didn¹t for a moment take the rumors seriously, but then I never had the amount and detail of information now available. And if books come out, there will be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 10:09 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gradually, everyone here seems to be remoulding their view of MMY to conform with the whispered rumours, but personally I still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: KING: You're a bachelor. MAHARISHI: ...monks. CNN - LARRY KING WEEKEND Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Aired 12 May 2002 -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 9:17 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case, I heard rumors in the 70's and dismissed them. But a few years later began to wonder as more information appeared. I pretty much decided to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 9:52 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all sure where you get the idea that his reputation was based on large part on a claim to be a life celibate. In what way was it based on this

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:19 AM, new.morning wrote:Good points, some comments interwoven. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my own case, I didn¹t for a moment take the rumors seriously, but then I never had the amount and detail of information now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread nablus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Why should that be a problem with anyone ? If it is true. Maharishi is a master, but I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 9:17 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case, I heard rumors in the 70's and dismissed them. But a few years later began to wonder as more information appeared. I pretty much decided to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 5:35 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really nice, thoughtful reply, Rick. Re the part about not wanting to disillusion people unless they want to be disillusioned - I agree with you, bit I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should that be a problem with anyone ? If it is true. Maharishi is a master, but I have no problem whatsover with the idea that he might have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers to adopt that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] And I admire him. I don't admire his callous womanizing, his drunk driving conviction, etc., but he has a great intellect, and basically a very good heart. He's a sincere seeker, but he seems to have his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers to adopt that lifestyle? Has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Why should that be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KING: You're a bachelor. MAHARISHI: ...monks. CNN - LARRY KING WEEKEND Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Aired 12 May 2002 - 9-10 p.m. ET Fine, he says he is a monk. Does not mean he has been that for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that

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2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 11:25 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] And

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:25 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: [snip] And I admire him. I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Early in the 70ths we used to call MMY when we participated at SCI- courses and weekend-courses - and the question about sex did come up from time to time. MMY always handled the questions - that he was not able to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KING: You're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Political schmoozing, no doubt. 2 drinks will put you over the legal limit. Was John a regular drinker at any point in his life? He

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:26 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 9:52 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not at all sure where you get the idea that his reputation was based on large part on a claim to be a life celibate. In what way was it based on this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Political schmoozing, no doubt. 2 drinks will put you over the legal limit. Studies have shown that it would take an average 170-pound male five drinks within a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: Political schmoozing, no doubt. 2 drinks will put you over the legal limit. Studies have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Why should that be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: KING: You're a bachelor.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:26 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'. I think the reason people believe these tales is because they want to! Possibly because they want to experience all the emotions connected to the idea, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Did Mitterrand

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'. I think the reason people believe these tales is because they want to! Possibly

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2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'.I’ve spoken with two. At length. They weren’t making it up.I

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2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the women. While I have not spoken to any of the women first hand, I did talk at length with this gentleman just after he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
If none of the women who allege shenanigans with MMY wish to talk openly, then I believe he deserves better than for people to be gossiping about his alleged sex life, especially those who pay lip service to the benefits of his teachings. I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called

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2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie   article who interviewed one of the women. While I have not spoken to any of the women first hand, I did talk at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If none of the women who allege shenanigans with MMY wish to talk openly, then I believe he deserves better than for people to be gossiping about his alleged sex life, especially those who pay lip service to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Paul Mason wrote:I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of being a  spokesmen or agent for these women making allegations against the most  famous 'saint' of our age. Oh puhleeze. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Paul Mason wrote: I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of being a spokesmen or agent for these women making allegations against the most famous 'saint' of our age. Oh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs stories sell well, but in reality there are more serious temptations for a spiritual leader and in order to determine whether or not such people exploit their positions,

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2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 3:06 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
I have questioned MMY's behaviour, good sense, and motives on numerous occasions, I have also attempted to blow away the fog that surrounds a lot of his best kept secrets. But I do think he deserves to be treated unfairly when it comes to scandal mongering. Please. --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 3:33 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do think he deserves to be treated unfairly when it comes to scandal mongering. OK. If you insist, well treat him unfairly,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: KING: You're a bachelor.

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