[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the ongoing discussions in this forum elicit a possible interface with the Turing test (below, entry copied from Wikipedia). Briefly, the person being tested sits behind a screen in which answers to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves the door open for an ironic paradox: we can act AS IF our will is free, even if it isn't, and not be the worse for wear. We can't even tell if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: snip The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves the door open for an ironic paradox: we can act AS IF our will is free,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread TurquoiseB
The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves the door open for an ironic paradox: we can act AS IF our will is free, even if it isn't, and not be the worse for wear. We can't even tell if our actions are really free will or not. This begs the question: Say 't Hooft's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: snip The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that we can't tell if our will is free or not; leaves the door open for an ironic paradox: we can act AS IF our will is free, even if it isn't, and not be the worse for wear. We can't even tell if our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
My approach to the determinist or non-existence of free will argument is similar to Charlton Heston's quote about guns: They can have my free will when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. :-) Excellent! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will, descriptions of Brahman, and the Turing test. (no way to tell!!)

2006-06-20 Thread new_morning_blank_slate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: This is why I don't understand why some folks are so thrown by the idea of determinism. If determinism were true, it would make absolutely no