[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Up TM

2019-12-02 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FF Coffee Haus conversation reports, 
 TM Atheism & Nihilism:

 Excerpt, ..her daily work consults all day long with people from all over 
about their spiritual states. https://sites.google.com/site/ 
jenniferhamiltonsunpoint/home 
https://sites.google.com/site/jenniferhamiltonsunpoint/home
 
 
 She works with some TM’ers and with other folks who call on her. With old 
TM’ers it can be ‘checking’ their experience related to meditating. It can be 
everything. For some while now, also a lot of 
 younger ™.org http://tm.org/ teachers and DLF teachers who have also found her 
over the years by word of mouth as someone they can talk to for perspective on 
what they are experiencing as dissonance. 
 More recently she was talking about this from her experience in talking with 
these kids of the movement about the evident integrity problem the movement is 
in.
 What she finds in her experience… 
 

 paraphrasing,  
 Voice to text.. 
 

 
 “The Gen-X and Millennials of TM assert that many people in their group cohort 
who they do know are atheist, that they are atheist to an extreme. There are 
two groups. One group in the Gen-X and Millennials of TM is atheist that are 
the most spiritual people you ever met.  And, another group that is atheist in 
a place of utter rejection of anything: that there is no truth, there is 
nothing to reality other than a biological event, life. This second group sits 
with: ..that consciousness has no other place other than in the brain and that 
when one is born one becomes conscious and then one dies and consciousness goes 
away. For that group there is no what we might call continuum of experience or 
continuum of life.  There is that group. 

 However, there is a group in what they are going through and what is happening 
to them that on the level of consciousness is absolutely sublime. Is this going 
to fit in to ™-Ville and a vision of seven states of consciousness? Probably 
not. Some of the cohort have personal and direct intimate relationship with 
their experience (evolution). The description is gorgeous. It happens when they 
meditate invited to sit in the lap of it and they are held to be in quiet in a 
capacity built to not get just strung out on their thinking, but just to be in 
that silence present. God intoxicated and in life. Gorgeous and in detail in 
Nature. It is gorgeous.
 
 Add to this we have the walking wounded of the TM children because of how they 
were or were not handled in the school and by the teaching. What they saw very 
early on was the utter hypocrisy of the whole deal while their parents, 
tru-believers, were ‘drinking the kool-aid’. These kids were going like, “What 
is going on here?” 
 

 
 This is not just news to them. It was a revelation that occurred early in 
their life. So they have this wound, this impression. Of course they run the 
gamut, of course they are not all going to be the same, but how many of them 
consider themselves to be atheist, atheism of the nihilist type. 

 Then you have those 
 that are atheist but they are atheist of the most refined spirituality. They 
are so non-dual that the idea of god as other, that kind of state they are 
Stabilizing unity consciousness is in that God absorbed ecstatic kind of union. 
Stabilizing a unity consciousness they talk about this as their expression. 
This is before Veda. It is before Maharishi, or Ammas or a David Spero last 
week or Janet Sussman this week. It is not about it being male or female, it is 
about it being both of masculine and feminine in balance. Infinite dynamism and 
infinite silence at the same time and the form of it in expression, in form 
that the mind can understand. Right now some are in this 
 ‘shiva-shakti’ merging in their experience of state shaped by the direct 
guru-hood of the experience. It is fascinating. 

 These are very spiritual kids, they are not looking for ‘church’. They are not 
looking for someone to tell them what to do. They get guidance. They are in to 
jyotish, they are about insight and perspective. But as far as this whole thing 
of trying to perpetuate a teaching, that even though the movement say and want 
to assert that it does not, it most certainly does seek to perpetuate duality 
because the guru in their minds is, “always perfect”, “beyond reproach”, “not 
questioned”, everything is deferred to whatever he said, the guru guidelines, 
it is all of that. All about structuring everything around that; and that you 
cannot trust your own experience.
 
 
 If your experience deviates from the seven states, in the sense of the tidy 
super mental linear thing they have, that he barely touched on at the least, 
that it was something you had to get through in order to have unity. 
Fascinating, depending on how one defines unity. Unity to what, not a who but a 
what. Their talk is about the difference in reality not of what who they are 
but what they are, what is. Not the who. The who impli

[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Up TM

2018-06-02 Thread srijau
there is lots of movement kids with deep appreciation and enthusiasm for the 
knowledge but thats not considered newsworthy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Up TM

2018-06-02 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Willy Blackmore writes:
 
 "I learned how to fly when I was 17.
 I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. “Yogic flying,” 
which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of 
human levitation — although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not 
rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. Needless to say, most kids who grow up 
in the small-town Midwest do not learn how to fly. But in my hometown of 
Fairfield, Iowa, much of the community is devoted to creating heaven on Earth 
through group meditation. In Fairfield, teenagers fly.
 My parents, and my friends’ parents, were all caught up in the Transcendental 
Meditation movement — ex-hippies looking to settle down into a less 
drugged-out, more socially conservative, post-commune utopia. They came from 
the coasts, from Canada, from (in the case of my parents) Arizona, to start a 
university dedicated to consciousness-based education at the former site of 
Parsons College. The tract of mobile homes that eventually cropped up on the 
northwestern corner of the campus was named Utopia Park.
 Growing up in a utopian community in Iowa means you don’t always come off like 
an Iowan. After spending my high school and college years dying to get away, 
and finally escaping to California, I’ve finally embraced my Midwestern 
identity: I’m uncomfortable on the phone, hate being late, loathe being an 
imposition, and get positively giddy when a rare clap of thunder sounds during 
an L.A. rainstorm. But on my first trip back in 5 years, I found myself 
grasping at belonging.
 It showed. “Where are you all from anyways?” a woman asked me in a restaurant, 
as she and her friends zipped coats and pulled on gloves. “Because you clearly 
aren’t from around here.”
 My then-girlfriend (now fiancée), our 9-month old daughter, my sister, three 
childhood friends and I were packed in around a four-top at Butch’s River Rock 
Café. (We’re here to feed ya, not fatt’n ya up, says a cartoon catfish on the 
sign outside.) The table was scattered with scraps of pork tenderloin sandwich, 
baskets of sliced fried meat and steak fries smothered in cheese, and just the 
sugar-glaze residue of a burger served on a donut bun. We were visiting our 
hometown for the holidays, and had driven on snow-blown roads to Oakland Mills, 
Iowa, to start 2014 with a resolution-shattering New Year’s Day breakfast. If 
it weren’t for the steady fall of small, dry snowflakes, the trip would have 
taken 20 minutes. We may have been wearing the wool coats and scarves of our 
adopted homes in Chicago, Brooklyn, London, and Los Angeles, rather than the 
duck canvas and tree-patterned hunting camo favored by the other diners, but we 
were in our own backyard. Except for my girlfriend and daughter, we had all 
spent the formative years of our lives a short drive down Highway 34.
 I explained that we were all visiting for the holidays, “but we’re originally 
from Fairfield.”
 “Oh,” she responded as her friends walked outside. She paused for a beat 
before adding, “I guess you guys just didn’t give off that Fairfield vibe.”
 This felt like both a failure and a triumph. It had taken me years to shed 
“that Fairfield vibe” — but without it, where was I from? I’d never really fit 
in as an Iowan, only as someone who meditated. No wonder that 20 minutes from 
my hometown, I was being treated like an outsider.
 The Fairfield vibe is nothing like the Iowa vibe. You could tell from the 
sandwich I’d been eating.
 Butch’s is home to what the Iowa Pork Producers Association named the best 
breaded-pork tenderloin in the state. A stark reminder of our German immigrant 
roots, this impossible sandwich, which is served on a hamburger bun, features a 
schnitzel-like expanse of fried meat that reaches beyond the circumference of 
the bread by a substantial distance. It is quintessentially Iowan — like cheese 
curds in Wisconsin or queso in Texas. At Butch’s, the meat was cantilevered out 
a good three inches on either side, which makes eating the sandwich something 
of a tactical challenge.
 That morning, at 29 years old, I had eaten my first pork tenderloin sandwich. 
As a native Iowan, I should consider this sandwich something of a birthright, 
but in all my childhood and adolescence I’d never even tried one. If Iowa is a 
pork tenderloin sandwich, Fairfield is Boca burgers. If Iowa is corn and 
soybeans, hog confinements, and sandwiches at Butch’s, Fairfield is farmers 
markets, new age-y vegetarianism, and maybe some wild-caught salmon.

 Transcendental Meditation is still around — you’ve seen bits and pieces of it 
before. David Lynch is a well-known practitioner, and often describes in 
interviews how he meditates for 20 minutes a day. Oprah, Jim Carrey, Russell 
Simmons, Deepak Chopra, Doug Henning — they’ve all learned Transcendental 
Meditation at one point or another. Jon Densmore and Robby Kreiger first met 
Ray Manzarek at a lecture on TM at UCLA in 1965. Lena

[FairfieldLife] Re: Growing Up TM

2014-11-01 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"I learned how to fly when I was 17.
 I’m not talking about a plane, and this isn’t some euphemism. “Yogic flying,” 
which is basically meditation at the black-belt level, offers the potential of 
human levitation — although in actuality it looks more like energetic, if not 
rather effortless, cross-legged hopping. Needless to say, most kids who grow up 
in the small-town Midwest do not learn how to fly. But in my hometown of 
Fairfield, Iowa, much of the community is devoted to creating heaven on Earth 
through group meditation. In Fairfield, teenagers fly.
 My parents, and my friends’ parents, were all caught up in the Transcendental 
Meditation movement — ex-hippies looking to settle down into a less 
drugged-out, more socially conservative, post-commune utopia. They came from 
the coasts, from Canada, from (in the case of my parents) Arizona, to start a 
university dedicated to consciousness-based education at the former site of 
Parsons College. The tract of mobile homes that eventually cropped up on the 
northwestern corner of the campus was named Utopia Park.
 Growing up in a utopian community in Iowa means you don’t always come off like 
an Iowan. After spending my high school and college years dying to get away, 
and finally escaping to California, I’ve finally embraced my Midwestern 
identity: I’m uncomfortable on the phone, hate being late, loathe being an 
imposition, and get positively giddy when a rare clap of thunder sounds during 
an L.A. rainstorm. But on my first trip back in 5 years, I found myself 
grasping at belonging.
 It showed. “Where are you all from anyways?” a woman asked me in a restaurant, 
as she and her friends zipped coats and pulled on gloves. “Because you clearly 
aren’t from around here.”
 My then-girlfriend (now fiancée), our 9-month old daughter, my sister, three 
childhood friends and I were packed in around a four-top at Butch’s River Rock 
Café. (We’re here to feed ya, not fatt’n ya up, says a cartoon catfish on the 
sign outside.) The table was scattered with scraps of pork tenderloin sandwich, 
baskets of sliced fried meat and steak fries smothered in cheese, and just the 
sugar-glaze residue of a burger served on a donut bun. We were visiting our 
hometown for the holidays, and had driven on snow-blown roads to Oakland Mills, 
Iowa, to start 2014 with a resolution-shattering New Year’s Day breakfast. If 
it weren’t for the steady fall of small, dry snowflakes, the trip would have 
taken 20 minutes. We may have been wearing the wool coats and scarves of our 
adopted homes in Chicago, Brooklyn, London, and Los Angeles, rather than the 
duck canvas and tree-patterned hunting camo favored by the other diners, but we 
were in our own backyard. Except for my girlfriend and daughter, we had all 
spent the formative years of our lives a short drive down Highway 34.
 I explained that we were all visiting for the holidays, “but we’re originally 
from Fairfield.”
 “Oh,” she responded as her friends walked outside. She paused for a beat 
before adding, “I guess you guys just didn’t give off that Fairfield vibe.”
 This felt like both a failure and a triumph. It had taken me years to shed 
“that Fairfield vibe” — but without it, where was I from? I’d never really fit 
in as an Iowan, only as someone who meditated. No wonder that 20 minutes from 
my hometown, I was being treated like an outsider.
 The Fairfield vibe is nothing like the Iowa vibe. You could tell from the 
sandwich I’d been eating.
 Butch’s is home to what the Iowa Pork Producers Association named the best 
breaded-pork tenderloin in the state. A stark reminder of our German immigrant 
roots, this impossible sandwich, which is served on a hamburger bun, features a 
schnitzel-like expanse of fried meat that reaches beyond the circumference of 
the bread by a substantial distance. It is quintessentially Iowan — like cheese 
curds in Wisconsin or queso in Texas. At Butch’s, the meat was cantilevered out 
a good three inches on either side, which makes eating the sandwich something 
of a tactical challenge.
 That morning, at 29 years old, I had eaten my first pork tenderloin sandwich. 
As a native Iowan, I should consider this sandwich something of a birthright, 
but in all my childhood and adolescence I’d never even tried one. If Iowa is a 
pork tenderloin sandwich, Fairfield is Boca burgers. If Iowa is corn and 
soybeans, hog confinements, and sandwiches at Butch’s, Fairfield is farmers 
markets, new age-y vegetarianism, and maybe some wild-caught salmon.

 Transcendental Meditation is still around — you’ve seen bits and pieces of it 
before. David Lynch is a well-known practitioner, and often describes in 
interviews how he meditates for 20 minutes a day. Oprah, Jim Carrey, Russell 
Simmons, Deepak Chopra, Doug Henning — they’ve all learned Transcendental 
Meditation at one point or another. Jon Densmore and Robby Kreiger first met 
Ray Manzarek at a lecture on TM at UCLA in 1965. Lena Dunham learned how to 
medit