[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Siddhi
A guru is a teacher on any subject. A realised being is very hard to define.I would go with some definitions from the Bhagavad Gita, one is 'Shtita prajna': one whose intellect is stable or established beyond duality. The other is: 'seeing the Self in al beings and all beings in the Self'. When a realised being teaches this atma vidya by means of methods coming from a genuine lineage, he is called a satguru. However, the job of a satguru is to open the awareness of the disciple to the inner teacher or the Divine within. In my tradition (Swami Rama -Swami Veda) guru is more a function than a distinct person. Every true guru 'channels' as it were the guru principle, the 'Teaching Spirit of the Universe, variously called Narayana or -in the Yoga Sutras Hiranyagarbha, the 'Golden Womb'. This is my understanding but there are many other approaches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just understood that this is the difference between a Realized Being and a guru. What do people know about this? Vaj? ___ _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Siddhi
I like the understanding that guru is more a function than a person. There are many Realized people, but very few guru's. The two people that I have encountered that have functioned as satgurus are Maharishi and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Both radiate (or in one case radiated!) a palpable Divine transcendent quality/energy. Sometimes it is very, very strong and at other times it is less, but always there. Several Realized people I have met don't radiate like this. You can experience it inside them through their eyes, but they don't enliven that divine in others. That's why it seems that guru is a siddhi or a particular shakti of the absolute. --- gyselsvishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A guru is a teacher on any subject. A realised being is very hard to define.I would go with some definitions from the Bhagavad Gita, one is 'Shtita prajna': one whose intellect is stable or established beyond duality. The other is: 'seeing the Self in al beings and all beings in the Self'. When a realised being teaches this atma vidya by means of methods coming from a genuine lineage, he is called a satguru. However, the job of a satguru is to open the awareness of the disciple to the inner teacher or the Divine within. In my tradition (Swami Rama -Swami Veda) guru is more a function than a distinct person. Every true guru 'channels' as it were the guru principle, the 'Teaching Spirit of the Universe, variously called Narayana or -in the Yoga Sutras Hiranyagarbha, the 'Golden Womb'. This is my understanding but there are many other approaches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just understood that this is the difference between a Realized Being and a guru. What do people know about this? Vaj? ___ _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Siddhi
A 'true' guru has indeed a radiating quality. I also experienced it with Maharishi while posing a question to him in Holland. When he was looking at me, it was like a vast ocean of tranquility rolling over me. Some time ago I had a personal chat with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in the Euro parliament in my hometown Brussels. He was reaching out to me verbally by saying 'and you, how are you?' but, more importantly, he radiated a blissful energy into my heart chakra. So, whatever the 'shadow'issues and powertrips around masters, they are in some respects no ordinary human beings... They indeed possess larger amounts of shakti. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the understanding that guru is more a function than a person. There are many Realized people, but very few guru's. The two people that I have encountered that have functioned as satgurus are Maharishi and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Both radiate (or in one case radiated!) a palpable Divine transcendent quality/energy. Sometimes it is very, very strong and at other times it is less, but always there. Several Realized people I have met don't radiate like this. You can experience it inside them through their eyes, but they don't enliven that divine in others. That's why it seems that guru is a siddhi or a particular shakti of the absolute. --- gyselsvishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A guru is a teacher on any subject. A realised being is very hard to define.I would go with some definitions from the Bhagavad Gita, one is 'Shtita prajna': one whose intellect is stable or established beyond duality. The other is: 'seeing the Self in al beings and all beings in the Self'. When a realised being teaches this atma vidya by means of methods coming from a genuine lineage, he is called a satguru. However, the job of a satguru is to open the awareness of the disciple to the inner teacher or the Divine within. In my tradition (Swami Rama -Swami Veda) guru is more a function than a distinct person. Every true guru 'channels' as it were the guru principle, the 'Teaching Spirit of the Universe, variously called Narayana or -in the Yoga Sutras Hiranyagarbha, the 'Golden Womb'. This is my understanding but there are many other approaches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I just understood that this is the difference between a Realized Being and a guru. What do people know about this? Vaj? _ __ _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Siddhi
--- gyselsvishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 'true' guru has indeed a radiating quality. I also experienced it with Maharishi while posing a question to him in Holland. When he was looking at me, it was like a vast ocean of tranquility rolling over me. Great description of Maharishi's darshan. The first time I met him in 1972 he locked onto my eyes and blew me away into Infinity. Some time ago I had a personal chat with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in the Euro parliament in my hometown Brussels. He was reaching out to me verbally by saying 'and you, how are you?' but, more importantly, he radiated a blissful energy into my heart chakra. With Sri Sri it took about 2 years before I felt anything. I wanted to feel something but besides him being a nice guy, nothing too much. Then he was down here in Florida and I walked into a room where he sitting and POW! Pure Infinity radiating from him. Ever since then I swoon in that Ocean of Infinity when he's around. So, whatever the 'shadow'issues and powertrips around masters, they are in some respects no ordinary human beings... They indeed possess larger amounts of shakti. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the understanding that guru is more a function than a person. There are many Realized people, but very few guru's. The two people that I have encountered that have functioned as satgurus are Maharishi and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar. Both radiate (or in one case radiated!) a palpable Divine transcendent quality/energy. Sometimes it is very, very strong and at other times it is less, but always there. Several Realized people I have met don't radiate like this. You can experience it inside them through their eyes, but they don't enliven that divine in others. That's why it seems that guru is a siddhi or a particular shakti of the absolute. --- gyselsvishnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A guru is a teacher on any subject. A realised being is very hard to define.I would go with some definitions from the Bhagavad Gita, one is 'Shtita prajna': one whose intellect is stable or established beyond duality. The other is: 'seeing the Self in al beings and all beings in the Self'. When a realised being teaches this atma vidya by means of methods coming from a genuine lineage, he is called a satguru. However, the job of a satguru is to open the awareness of the disciple to the inner teacher or the Divine within. In my tradition (Swami Rama -Swami Veda) guru is more a function than a distinct person. Every true guru 'channels' as it were the guru principle, the 'Teaching Spirit of the Universe, variously called Narayana or -in the Yoga Sutras Hiranyagarbha, the 'Golden Womb'. This is my understanding but there are many other approaches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I just understood that this is the difference between a Realized Being and a guru. What do people know about this? Vaj? _ __ _ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
