[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Hi Sera, most points agreed. I just got carried away a bit, because I found, whatever little bits we saw in Russels piece from Fauxnews so outrageous, that I couldn't believe there is a serious audience for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out?: No. I'm avoiding that cliche. But to avoid being taken in by bias it is an excellent prophylactic to read a variety of sources with opposed takes on life. There are certain takes that doubtless aren't worth wasting time on - Holocaust deniers, flat-earthers and creationists, say - but most journalists preach to the converted, those who share similar worldviews to themselves. There are precious few writers with integrity. George Orwell is the gold standard. Everybody respects Orwell regardless of whether they are on the left or the right. The key was his commitment to truth and basic decency. If you ditch truth and regard persuasion as your priority, or if you ditch decency and regard power as your goal, you'll end up penning intellectual poison. The antidote is then to read a biased writer on the opposite end of the spectrum. I just wish there were more Orwells around! There's always a place for out-and-out polemicists with a satirical streak (maybe Ann Coulter versus Michael Moore? I haven't got much time for either of them to be honest). But you know where you are with them and can simply enjoy the ride. I'm at a disadvantage here as I've never had the pleasure of watching Fox News. From what I've heard it doesn't sound like I'm going to become a fan. I'll take a look later at the documentary posted by Bhairitu, OutFoxed! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out? No, you don't, do you? I can't imagine any other convoluted sh*t of propaganda piece as this one, and you don't want to even compare it to upright journalism, which does exist. Russel is completely right to get outraged at this. The guy who committed this mass murder 'extended' suicide, actually had his house only about 30 kms from my place, I could have passed him by with the car easily. And he was seriously sick, pipolar as it seems. This happens. He went to see many doctors and wasn't poor by any means. He simply was mentally sick, not religious, not islamic. He had issues with his girl friend and issues with his career. We have non-stop TV coverage here, but I have never seen such a piece of sh*t as this one from Fox News, that there are even half way sane people who see this is unimaginable. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
There is an audience for it because he is saying what is popular now, what lots
of people want to hear - that life is crazy, big banks are bad, rich people are
screwing everyone else.They don't take the time to see what kind of person he
really is. I won't take the time to type a description of him - Sal has done an
excellent job of that in the past.
From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 4:48 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into
a mountain?
Hi Sera,
most points agreed. I just got carried away a bit, because I found, whatever
little bits we saw in Russels piece from Fauxnews so outrageous, that I
couldn't believe there is a serious audience for it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Re Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out?:
No. I'm avoiding that cliche. But to avoid being taken in by bias it is an
excellent prophylactic to read a variety of sources with opposed takes on life.
There are certain takes that doubtless aren't worth wasting time on - Holocaust
deniers, flat-earthers and creationists, say - but most journalists preach to
the converted, those who share similar worldviews to themselves. There are
precious few writers with integrity. George Orwell is the gold standard.
Everybody respects Orwell regardless of whether they are on the left or the
right. The key was his commitment to truth and basic decency. If you ditch
truth and regard persuasion as your priority, or if you ditch decency and
regard power as your goal, you'll end up penning intellectual poison. The
antidote is then to read a biased writer on the opposite end of the spectrum. I
just wish there were more Orwells around!
There's always a place for out-and-out polemicists with a satirical streak
(maybe Ann Coulter versus Michael Moore? I haven't got much time for either of
them to be honest). But you know where you are with them and can simply enjoy
the ride.
I'm at a disadvantage here as I've never had the pleasure of watching Fox News.
From what I've heard it doesn't sound like I'm going to become a fan. I'll take
a look later at the documentary posted by Bhairitu, OutFoxed!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out? No, you
don't, do you? I can't imagine any other convoluted sh*t of propaganda piece as
this one, and you don't want to even compare it to upright journalism, which
does exist. Russel is completely right to get outraged at this. The guy who
committed this mass murder 'extended' suicide, actually had his house only
about 30 kms from my place, I could have passed him by with the car easily. And
he was seriously sick, pipolar as it seems. This happens. He went to see many
doctors and wasn't poor by any means. He simply was mentally sick, not
religious, not islamic. He had issues with his girl friend and issues with his
career. We have non-stop TV coverage here, but I have never seen such a piece
of sh*t as this one from Fox News, that there are even half way sane people who
see this is unimaginable.
The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular
organisation(not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that
theirown preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well,
itisn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The
New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain
are balanced out. #yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780 -- #yiv5339706780ygrp-mkp
{border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0
10px;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid
#d8d8d8;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780ygrp-mkp #yiv5339706780hd
{color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px
0;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780ygrp-mkp #yiv5339706780ads
{margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780ygrp-mkp .yiv5339706780ad
{padding:0 0;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780ygrp-mkp .yiv5339706780ad p
{margin:0;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780ygrp-mkp .yiv5339706780ad a
{color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780ygrp-sponsor
#yiv5339706780ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv5339706780
#yiv5339706780ygrp-sponsor #yiv5339706780ygrp-lc #yiv5339706780hd {margin:10px
0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv5339706780
#yiv5339706780ygrp-sponsor #yiv5339706780ygrp-lc .yiv5339706780ad
{margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv5339706780 #yiv5339706780actions
{font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv5339706780
#yiv5339706780activity
{background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv5339706780
#yiv5339706780activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv5339706780
#yiv5339706780activity span:first-child
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Maybe you're just JELLOS. According to what I've read, Brand is a comic genius - he must be pretty smart since he got Katy Perry. But, he probably can't compare to all your many talents. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There is an audience for it because he is saying what is popular now, what lots of people want to hear - that life is crazy, big banks are bad, rich people are screwing everyone else. Non sequitur. They don't take the time to see what kind of person he really is. I won't take the time to type a description of him - Sal has done an excellent job of that in the past. Non sequitur. From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Hi Sera, most points agreed. I just got carried away a bit, because I found, whatever little bits we saw in Russels piece from Fauxnews so outrageous, that I couldn't believe there is a serious audience for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out?: No. I'm avoiding that cliche. But to avoid being taken in by bias it is an excellent prophylactic to read a variety of sources with opposed takes on life. There are certain takes that doubtless aren't worth wasting time on - Holocaust deniers, flat-earthers and creationists, say - but most journalists preach to the converted, those who share similar worldviews to themselves. There are precious few writers with integrity. George Orwell is the gold standard. Everybody respects Orwell regardless of whether they are on the left or the right. The key was his commitment to truth and basic decency. If you ditch truth and regard persuasion as your priority, or if you ditch decency and regard power as your goal, you'll end up penning intellectual poison. The antidote is then to read a biased writer on the opposite end of the spectrum. I just wish there were more Orwells around! There's always a place for out-and-out polemicists with a satirical streak (maybe Ann Coulter versus Michael Moore? I haven't got much time for either of them to be honest). But you know where you are with them and can simply enjoy the ride. I'm at a disadvantage here as I've never had the pleasure of watching Fox News. From what I've heard it doesn't sound like I'm going to become a fan. I'll take a look later at the documentary posted by Bhairitu, OutFoxed! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out? No, you don't, do you? I can't imagine any other convoluted sh*t of propaganda piece as this one, and you don't want to even compare it to upright journalism, which does exist. Russel is completely right to get outraged at this. The guy who committed this mass murder 'extended' suicide, actually had his house only about 30 kms from my place, I could have passed him by with the car easily. And he was seriously sick, pipolar as it seems. This happens. He went to see many doctors and wasn't poor by any means. He simply was mentally sick, not religious, not islamic. He had issues with his girl friend and issues with his career. We have non-stop TV coverage here, but I have never seen such a piece of sh*t as this one from Fox News, that there are even half way sane people who see this is unimaginable. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : There is an audience for it because he is saying what is popular now, what lots of people want to hear - that life is crazy, big banks are bad, rich people are screwing everyone else.They don't take the time to see what kind of person he really is. I won't take the time to type a description of him - Sal has done an excellent job of that in the past. From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 4:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Hi Sera, most points agreed. I just got carried away a bit, because I found, whatever little bits we saw in Russels piece from Fauxnews so outrageous, that I couldn't believe there is a serious audience for it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out?: No. I'm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
He does raise an interesting point though. Is our society making people mentally ill? As capitalism overheats and it turns from meaning simply that the means of production are in private hands to meaning that everything is predicated as to whether it benefits business or not. Look at our current government. They've held a torch to workers rights simply because business leaders said it would be better for them. The result is a much less equal society rife with zero-hours contracts and no job security and the lower taxes the rich want mean that unemployment benefits are slashed so the level of insecurity increases. The promise of all this is that the wealth creators get what they want but with some vague and undefined promise that their newly created wealth somehow trickles down to the rest of society. This obviously doesn't happen but still the opinion of business leaders will probably swing this election. So far so familiar but does it actually make people ill? Is there a base level of anxiety (which is known to cause depression) in society that is exacerbated by capitalist policies that will actually result in more people going postal than usual? It'd be an interesting study. Not sure how we'd start it, maybe check GP records for prescriptions for either anti-depressants or talking therapies. I'm fairly sure they are up considerably. But finding a link between that and incidents like the Germanwings tragedy is going to take some doing. The main problem I can see being how you would isolate the amount of spree killings caused by societal stress from the any caused by, say, memes of mass murder that permeate society through the media from groups like ISIS. Beheadings are now quite common in criminal endeavors. A squabble between drug addicts in my home town ended up with someone's head being lopped off with a carving knife. I bet it wouldn't have happened a few years ago. It seems the actions of a bunch of maniacs in the middle east has coarsened expectations and desensitised us to more extreme violence. Which, type of influence - if any - could be blamed for the actions of the German pilot? Or was it just one of those things? If there is any truth to Brands argument we'll see a lot more things like that but even then, I don't trust statistical analyses of violent events. Look at what the TMO has tried to prove with them And I'm surprised that Russell Brand - being a TMer - hasn't realised that mass meditation would be a cure for all this new stress. The TMO always used to say that in our modern world the increase of stress can only be managed by lowering your own base level. It's like he doesn't care about spreading the word any more! Is he getting bored with his practise? Does he not believe the speil that he has undoubtably heard from John Hagelin and David Lynch (who is much more of a TB in things like the Marshy Effect than he ever lets on)? Or is he wisely keeping his mouth shut lest that stain of association ruins his career? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
There's probably not a single informant on this list that watches Fox News on U.S. TV. Correct me if I'm wrong about this. In the UK, I understand that reading the Daily Mail is very popular. LoL! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out? No, you don't, do you? I can't imagine any other convoluted sh*t of propaganda piece as this one, and you don't want to even compare it to upright journalism, which does exist. Russel is completely right to get outraged at this. The guy who committed this mass murder 'extended' suicide, actually had his house only about 30 kms from my place, I could have passed him by with the car easily. And he was seriously sick, pipolar as it seems. This happens. He went to see many doctors and wasn't poor by any means. He simply was mentally sick, not religious, not islamic. He had issues with his girl friend and issues with his career. We have non-stop TV coverage here, but I have never seen such a piece of sh*t as this one from Fox News, that there are even half way sane people who see this is unimaginable. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Strident demagoguery may sell for a short period of time, but it has little staying power. In contrast, the talking head shows on Fox and CNN deal with dissent in a much more mature manner, and usually features more of it than MSNBC prime-time shows do. For that matter, Morning Joe has a much different dynamic than the channel’s prime-time shows, and it’s thriving. MSNBC ratings crater as NBC looks for new direction http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/01/msnbc-ratings-crater-as-nbc-looks-for-new-direction/ http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/01/msnbc-ratings-crater-as-nbc-looks-for-new-direction/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've been in the arts all my life. I know exactly how to manipulate an audience. FOX News a joke in the US. They call their network fair and balanced which is a real laugh. It's old Rupert's pet project and fair removed from the way that the FOX entertainment outlets are run. FFL used to have an Emmy award winning editor posting. He mentioned that of the US TV networks that FOX was the easiest to work with. I recalled an Esquire interview with Rupert Murdoch published in the 1990s where they asked him about the content of his shows and he said he didn't care as long as they made money. What Brand was doing was no different than a lot of news analysts have done critiquing FOX News. In fact there is a documentary about it called OutFoxed! by Robert Greenwald: https://youtu.be/P74oHhU5MDk https://youtu.be/P74oHhU5MDk There are even right wingers who dislike FOX News as being just an arm of the status quo. On 03/31/2015 06:06 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Re Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out?: No. I'm avoiding that cliche. But to avoid being taken in by bias it is an excellent prophylactic to read a variety of sources with opposed takes on life. There are certain takes that doubtless aren't worth wasting time on - Holocaust deniers, flat-earthers and creationists, say - but most journalists preach to the converted, those who share similar worldviews to themselves. There are precious few writers with integrity. George Orwell is the gold standard. Everybody respects Orwell regardless of whether they are on the left or the right. The key was his commitment to truth and basic decency. If you ditch truth and regard persuasion as your priority, or if you ditch decency and regard power as your goal, you'll end up penning intellectual poison. The antidote is then to read a biased writer on the opposite end of the spectrum. I just wish there were more Orwells around! There's always a place for out-and-out polemicists with a satirical streak (maybe Ann Coulter versus Michael Moore? I haven't got much time for either of them to be honest). But you know where you are with them and can simply enjoy the ride. I'm at a disadvantage here as I've never had the pleasure of watching Fox News. From what I've heard it doesn't sound like I'm going to become a fan. I'll take a look later at the documentary posted by Bhairitu, OutFoxed! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sera, are you trying to say, that two evils cancel each other out? No, you don't, do you? I can't imagine any other convoluted sh*t of propaganda piece as this one, and you don't want to even compare it to upright journalism, which does exist. Russel is completely right to get outraged at this. The guy who committed this mass murder 'extended' suicide, actually had his house only about 30 kms from my place, I could have passed him by with the car easily. And he was seriously sick, pipolar as it seems. This happens. He went to see many doctors and wasn't poor by any means. He simply was mentally sick, not religious, not islamic. He had issues with his girl friend and issues with his career. We have non-stop TV coverage here, but I have never seen such a piece of sh*t as this one from Fox News, that there are even half way sane people who see this is unimaginable. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
I've been in the arts all my life. I know *exactly* how to manipulate an audience. FOX News a joke in the US. They call their network fair and balanced which is a real laugh. It's old Rupert's pet project and fair removed from the way that the FOX entertainment outlets are run. FFL used to have an Emmy award winning editor posting. He mentioned that of the US TV networks that FOX was the easiest to work with. I recalled an Esquire interview with Rupert Murdoch published in the 1990s where they asked him about the content of his shows and he said he didn't care as long as they made money. What Brand was doing was no different than a lot of news analysts have done critiquing FOX News. In fact there is a documentary about it called OutFoxed! by Robert Greenwald: https://youtu.be/P74oHhU5MDk There are even right wingers who dislike FOX News as being just an arm of the status quo. On 03/31/2015 06:06 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Geesh MJ, he's comedic actor. What do you want him to sound like? Some executive in a suit? As for being rich I'm sure you remember Warren Buffet's comment about his secretary paying a higher tax rate than he does and how wrong that is. He was hinting that the public should do something about that. But the public is as apathetic as a bag of rocks. Bill Gates father sponsored an initiative in Washington state for a higher tax rate on the rich. It got voted down by the stupid poor who apparently believe they will someday be rich themselves as soon as they win the lottery. On 03/31/2015 06:54 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: except that he makes people who speak against the status quo look like idiots since he is one himself, not to mention the hypocrisy of his yipping like a pack of yapping Chihuahuas about the rich when he is himself. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Does he really stump that much for the TMO? In fact it almost looks like he has a picture of Yogananda by his bed not MMY. Though maybe it's just a relative or girlfriend (too small to see for sure). Most of the time he's stumping for the general public against the status quo. Good on him for that. On 03/31/2015 06:14 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation (which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing. *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:s3raph...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation
(which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing.
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane
into a mountain?
Re Fox manipulation of the audience:
Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see
that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags -
manipulate their consumers.
The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular
organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that
their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it
isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New
Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are
balanced out.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
I watched the entire video. Brandpointed out the Fox manipulation of the
audience. IOW, status quogood, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when
doescapitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch ofthugs who
run big companies and screw the public. Liberaldemocracy? My ass.
On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@...wrote :
That's it? That's all yougot out of this video? Blame fox?
I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand'snarcissism. His manic presentation
does no one anyfavours.
Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the ideathat capitalism (aka liberal
democracy) is turningpeople into crackpots who willingly terrorize andmurder
innocent people, including children? Ask yourfriends and neighbours what they
think of the outrage.They'll react with disgust. Why should they react
likethat? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitzcurse? Because they get
on with their lives and engagewith the society around them and try and make use
ofthe opportunities on offer to do something positivefor themselves and their
families.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,s3raphita@... wrote :
The loony Brand blames Fox News for thetragedy . .
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411 -- #yiv6923925411ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid
#d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv6923925411
#yiv6923925411ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv6923925411
#yiv6923925411ygrp-mkp #yiv6923925411hd
{color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px
0;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411ygrp-mkp #yiv6923925411ads
{margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411ygrp-mkp .yiv6923925411ad
{padding:0 0;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411ygrp-mkp .yiv6923925411ad p
{margin:0;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411ygrp-mkp .yiv6923925411ad a
{color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411ygrp-sponsor
#yiv6923925411ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv6923925411
#yiv6923925411ygrp-sponsor #yiv6923925411ygrp-lc #yiv6923925411hd {margin:10px
0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv6923925411
#yiv6923925411ygrp-sponsor #yiv6923925411ygrp-lc .yiv6923925411ad
{margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411actions
{font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv6923925411
#yiv6923925411activity
{background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv6923925411
#yiv6923925411activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv6923925411
#yiv6923925411activity span:first-child
{text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411activity span a
{color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411activity span
span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv6923925411 #yiv6923925411activity span
.yiv6923925411underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6923925411
.yiv6923925411attach
{clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px
0;width:400px;}#yiv6923925411 .yiv6923925411attach div a
{text-decoration:none;}#yiv6923925411 .yiv6923925411attach img
{border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv6923925411 .yiv6923925411attach label
{display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv6923925411 .yiv6923925411attach label a
{text-decoration:none;}#yiv6923925411 blockquote {margin:0 0 0
4px;}#yiv6923925411 .yiv6923925411bold
{font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv6923925411
.yiv6923925411bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6923925411 dd.yiv6923925411last
p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6923925411 dd.yiv6923925411last p
span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv6923925411
dd.yiv6923925411last p span.yiv6923925411yshortcuts
{margin-right:0;}#yiv6923925411 div.yiv6923925411attach-table div div a
{text-decoration:none;}#yiv6923925411
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
except that he makes people who speak against the status quo look like idiots
since he is one himself, not to mention the hypocrisy of his yipping like a
pack of yapping Chihuahuas about the rich when he is himself.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane
into a mountain?
Does he really stump that much for the TMO? In fact it almost looks like
he has a picture of Yogananda by his bed not MMY. Though maybe it's just a
relative or girlfriend (too small to see for sure). Most of the time he's
stumping for the general public against the status quo. Good on him for that.
On 03/31/2015 06:14 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation
(which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing.
From: s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane
into a mountain?
Re Fox manipulation of the audience:
Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you
see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers,
mags - manipulate their consumers.
The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular
organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that
their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it
isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New
Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are
balanced out.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the
audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since
when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of
thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass.
On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox?
I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic
presentation does no one any favours.
Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal
democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder
innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they
think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like
that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on
with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use
of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and
their families.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565 -- #yiv3387470565ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid
#d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv3387470565
#yiv3387470565ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv3387470565
#yiv3387470565ygrp-mkp #yiv3387470565hd
{color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px
0;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565ygrp-mkp #yiv3387470565ads
{margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565ygrp-mkp .yiv3387470565ad
{padding:0 0;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565ygrp-mkp .yiv3387470565ad p
{margin:0;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565ygrp-mkp .yiv3387470565ad a
{color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565ygrp-sponsor
#yiv3387470565ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv3387470565
#yiv3387470565ygrp-sponsor #yiv3387470565ygrp-lc #yiv3387470565hd {margin:10px
0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv3387470565
#yiv3387470565ygrp-sponsor #yiv3387470565ygrp-lc .yiv3387470565ad
{margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565actions
{font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv3387470565
#yiv3387470565activity
{background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv3387470565
#yiv3387470565activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv3387470565
#yiv3387470565activity span:first-child
{text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565activity span a
{color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565activity span
span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv3387470565 #yiv3387470565activity span
.yiv3387470565underline
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Does he really stump that much for the TMO? In fact it almost looks like he has a picture of Yogananda by his bed not MMY. Though maybe it's just a relative or girlfriend (too small to see for sure). Most of the time he's stumping for the general public against the status quo. Good on him for that. On 03/31/2015 06:14 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Quite ironic that Brand accuses the media of mental/emotional manipulation (which they do) while stumping for the TMO which does exactly the same thing. *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:06 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain? Re Fox manipulation of the audience: Yes, we know that the media manipulates the audience. I just hope that you see that ALL the different media outlets - TV channels, cinema, newspapers, mags - manipulate their consumers. The thing is, I always get twitchy when people attack one particular organisation (not that I've ever seen Fox News). It's as if they imagine that their own preferred source of propaganda is reliable and objective. Well, it isn't. Here in the UK I always read The Spectator mag (right-wing) and The New Statesman mag (left-wing) every week. That way both hemispheres of my brain are balanced out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? Cheee L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
Hmmm... I always thought that capitalism meant something other than just turning a profit, though it isn't easy to decide when the latter turns into the former, and where the practicality ends and the self-destructive element begins. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
I watched the entire video. Brand pointed out the Fox manipulation of the audience. IOW, status quo good, the public bad. I applaud that. And since when does capitalism mean liberal democracy? In the US it means a bunch of thugs who run big companies and screw the public. Liberal democracy? My ass. On 03/31/2015 05:09 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Russell Brand mad enough to crash a plane into a mountain?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Hmmm... I always thought that capitalism meant something other than just turning a profit, though it isn't easy to decide when the latter turns into the former, and where the practicality ends and the self-destructive element begins. The self-destructive element in contemporary capitalism is there alright. Just take a look at the banking sector collapse. We all knew that the financial sector was full of predators with moral compass inoperative. But no one thought their short-sighted greed would lead them to (inadvertently) crash the very system that was rewarding them so handsomely. The Lubitz case is *completely* different. It's actually closer to the case of terrorist Anders Breivik. They were both young men who had no healthy engagement with the wider society and culture around them and had retreated into private worlds nursing their respective grievances. Both men were/are nihilists. I submit that the issue of nihilism - a rejection of all value - is more a religious crisis than an economic one. L analysis is that he doesn't ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That's it? That's all you got out of this video? Blame fox? I got the usual overdose of Russell Brand's narcissism. His manic presentation does no one any favours. Do you really (I mean *really*) buy the idea that capitalism (aka liberal democracy) is turning people into crackpots who willingly terrorize and murder innocent people, including children? Ask your friends and neighbours what they think of the outrage. They'll react with disgust. Why should they react like that? Why haven't they been infected with the Lubitz curse? Because they get on with their lives and engage with the society around them and try and make use of the opportunities on offer to do something positive for themselves and their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : The loony Brand blames Fox News for the tragedy . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCREVmaRaeg
