[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai FFL!
Since you mention checking, why not team up with 4-5 TM-teachers and have the whole community checked. It's easily done in a few weeks and could radically turn around the narrow-mindedness about dress etc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Jai Guru Dev, These are fantastic posts. I been out building fence and seeding pastures and such these last few days, and am way behind reading here on FFL. These two experiential spiritual posts to FFL really speak to where the Fairfield, Iowa meditating community has gone, experiential-ly. There is a lot of illumined folks here now in Fairfield that have gone on working on this very material. Victory! Go in to the coffee shops or to the various satsanga here and this is evidently is where the old TM meditating community has gone. Some of you who have not been around ought to come and hang out with the illumined here and see what this is. You all may think and carp here about TM but it is way more than that here. I got to back up later and read these again once the sun goes down again, these are really good checkings to things spiritual like a good satsanga potentially could give. Jai FFL! More spring field work to do before the sun goes down, -Buck on the Range
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai FFL!
Why morality is important in reaching enlightenment. And, Why TM teachers cannot get Shankara's teachings: Jai Guru Dev, These are fantastic posts. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380831 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380831 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380891 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/380891 I been out building fence and seeding pastures and such these last few days, and am way behind reading here on FFL. These two experiential spiritual posts to FFL really speak to where the Fairfield, Iowa meditating community has gone, experiential-ly. There is a lot of illumined folks here now in Fairfield that have gone on working on this very material. Victory! Go in to the coffee shops or to the various satsanga here and this is evidently is where the old TM meditating community has gone. Some of you who have not been around ought to come and hang out with the illumined here and see what this is. You all may think and carp here about TM but it is way more than that here. I got to back up later and read these again once the sun goes down again, these are really good checkings to things spiritual like a good satsanga potentially could give. Jai FFL! More spring field work to do before the sun goes down, -Buck on the Range
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai !Bill Godfrey! in memorium..
Rest in peace, dearest Bill. Thanks for surprising me by planting early sweet peas in my garden, and building a wonky fence of sticks and wild grapevine bordering your home so many years ago. When I look out my window into my backyard, the wooden slats still stand as a reminder of a man who found untamed nature more appealing than the manicured landscape my new neighbor prefers. Most people would think the dame's rocket you planted around my pine trees is just a weed but I think its perennial bloom is a wonderful testament to how much you loved and cared for natural beauty. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Come to Fairfield as a meditator. Waggin' Tail I'll take my waggin tail Waggin down the wagon trail If in you don't mind I'll tag along with you And we'll go all the way To California If in I don't wind up as Injun stew! Yea hodee hoo! -William C. Godfrey Bill Godfrey left the planet this week. Obit http://fairfield-ia.villagesoup.com/people/announcement/obituaries/william-clair\ -smokey-godfrey-jr/836384?cid=860901#.T9NLgkXVnSk.email
[FairfieldLife] Re: jai jai jai guru dev 20 10
Because one jai just isn't good enough any more. It's like the Advanced Technique of buzzphrases, like adding Sri Sri to one's mantra. Makes it better, doncha know... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, michael vedamer...@... wrote: jai jai jai guru dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Bob
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could easily be Marley. But that rendezvous was last weekend. Tonight its Dylan. I am a bit behind the curve. No wonder to close readers of FFL. But Dylan is such a cliche, no doubt. But those who dismiss him as passe are missing something grand. I am listening to Modern Times. Released Aug 2006. Prolly heard some of it earlier. But tonight I am quite listening. Bob in the groove. Bob in the corner pocket. Bob keeps pushing the boundary and borderline. And this is after listening to a lot, but hardly all, of earlier righteous works. Those were quite fine. But Bob continues to morph, grow, evolve and hit it. (Damn Rhapsody, only 4-5 songs off the CD. Well, maybe yahoo music is in my future. If they don't short change Artists.) Modern Times became the singer-songwriter's first #1 album in the U.S. since 1976's Desire. At age 65, Dylan became the oldest living person ever to have an album enter the Billboard charts at number one. I never knew. But its sweet that Bob still has the juice. Transformed. Not the earlier Bob, which I still love. But he keeps growing. Like life. One of the things it took me some time to get about Dylan is *how* he stays so flexible and keeps growing. He calls his life the endless tour. The man keeps performing, and is often on the road 200+ nights a year, standing in front of audiences and doing the same old songs, but *never the same way*. It's pretty fascinating to be in the audience and hear him rip into a song that you know all the words to by heart and have it take you until well into the third verse before you recognize the song. He changes the tempo, the melody, and sometimes even the lyrics. The folks in his bands are chosen for their flexibility, because there is never a set list (they don't know what he's going to play next) and they also don't know *how* he's going to play whatever he feels like playing next. They just have to keep up with him, wherever he goes. Think of the alternative...playing the same old set list over and over, and playing each song the same way every time. That just makes you old, and Dylan refuses to get old. He may have advanced in age, but he's never gotten old. Similarly, if you're on a Dylan kick, a fun exercise is to scour the Web and find *outtakes* of your favorite Dylan songs. Sometimes you can find six or seven of them, from the same record- ing session. And each one of them is as different from one another as night and day...hardly the same song at all. After a few sessions of this, you realize that with Dylan there is no such thing as the definitive version of a particular song. There is only the take that was chosen to be on the album, that's all. He probably did 20 different versions of that song in the same session, all of them as good as the one we think of as definitive, but in different ways.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Bob
TurquoiseB wrote: One of the things it took me some time to get about Dylan is *how* he stays so flexible and keeps growing. He calls his life the endless tour. The man keeps performing, and is often on the road 200+ nights a year, standing in front of audiences and doing the same old songs, but *never the same way*. It's pretty fascinating to be in the audience and hear him rip into a song that you know all the words to by heart and have it take you until well into the third verse before you recognize the song. He changes the tempo, the melody, and sometimes even the lyrics. The folks in his bands are chosen for their flexibility, because there is never a set list (they don't know what he's going to play next) and they also don't know *how* he's going to play whatever he feels like playing next. They just have to keep up with him, wherever he goes. Think of the alternative...playing the same old set list over and over, and playing each song the same way every time. That just makes you old, and Dylan refuses to get old. He may have advanced in age, but he's never gotten old. Similarly, if you're on a Dylan kick, a fun exercise is to scour the Web and find *outtakes* of your favorite Dylan songs. Sometimes you can find six or seven of them, from the same record- ing session. And each one of them is as different from one another as night and day...hardly the same song at all. After a few sessions of this, you realize that with Dylan there is no such thing as the definitive version of a particular song. There is only the take that was chosen to be on the album, that's all. He probably did 20 different versions of that song in the same session, all of them as good as the one we think of as definitive, but in different ways. His approach is the same as a jazz musician as we never play the tune the same way twice. Even many classical performers don't believe you should interpret a piece the same way each time. It would not be unusual for Dylan to adopt this though as even folk and true country musicians never do a piece the same way twice. Only commercial music tries to perform a piece the same way each time. When I was playing in rock groups in high school as a jazz musician doing so I would frequently piss off the bands I was playing in because I would not play my part the same way every time and they were essentially cover artists who were doing often a note for note copy of the record. They thought that the audience wanted it that way but I always found that the audience didn't care that much at all as long as they could dance to it. My approach worked well in the 60's and 70's groups I played in which were original material groups (trying to get a good record contract) and always exploring their tunes. Unfortunately I found a generation of young jazz musicians who only wanted to do covers of some artist's recording. I remember a jam where the rest of the stage was filled with these and they were pissed because I wasn't playing the tune the way the drummer on the record did. My friend whose group was host group for the evening then jumped on stage and we did an improv on an old standard something which the youngsters were a bit clueless about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Bob
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could easily be Marley. But that rendezvous was last weekend. Tonight its Dylan. I am a bit behind the curve. No wonder to close readers of FFL. But Dylan is such a cliche, no doubt. But those who dismiss him as passe are missing something grand. I am listening to Modern Times. Released Aug 2006. Prolly heard some of it earlier. But tonight I am quite listening. Bob in the groove. Bob in the corner pocket. Bob keeps pushing the boundary and borderline. And this is after listening to a lot, but hardly all, of earlier righteous works. Those were quite fine. But Bob continues to morph, grow, evolve and hit it. (Damn Rhapsody, only 4-5 songs off the CD. Well, maybe yahoo music is in my future. If they don't short change Artists.) Modern Times became the singer-songwriter's first #1 album in the U.S. since 1976's Desire. At age 65, Dylan became the oldest living person ever to have an album enter the Billboard charts at number one. I never knew. But its sweet that Bob still has the juice. Transformed. Not the earlier Bob, which I still love. But he keeps growing. Like life. The billboard charts in US, and the billboard charts in UK, are 2 entirely different animals. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Bob
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:29 PM, new.morning wrote: It could easily be Marley. But that rendezvous was last weekend. Tonight its Dylan. I am a bit behind the curve. No wonder to close readers of FFL. But Dylan is such a cliche, no doubt. But those who dismiss him as passe are missing something grand. I am listening to Modern Times. Released Aug 2006. Prolly heard some of it earlier. But tonight I am quite listening. Bob in the groove. Bob in the corner pocket. Bob keeps pushing the boundary and borderline. And this is after listening to a lot, but hardly all, of earlier righteous works. Those were quite fine. But Bob continues to morph, grow, evolve and hit it. (Damn Rhapsody, only 4-5 songs off the CD. Well, maybe yahoo music is in my future. If they don't short change Artists.) Modern Times became the singer-songwriter's first #1 album in the U.S. since 1976's Desire. At age 65, Dylan became the oldest living person ever to have an album enter the Billboard charts at number one. I never knew. But its sweet that Bob still has the juice. Transformed. Not the earlier Bob, which I still love. But he keeps growing. Like life. I think Modern Times is one of his best, and that's saying something. Just got it myself a few months ago and can't stop listening to it. Amazing stuff. Pretty cool that he's still got the stuff. Sal I used to like Dylan, still admire the stuff he used to do. Can't stand Modern Times, very weak, very monotonous. Must be a baby-boomer vs gen-x thing. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hindi vs Sanskrit
Could be, but the original Sanskrit(?) version near the
end of this page...
http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=48197
...seems to be 'jaya shrii gurudeva'.
The only Sanskrit meaning for 'jai' I can find in Monier-Williams is
this:
jai cl. 1. %{jAyati} , to wane , perish Dha1tup. xxii , 17 ; cf. %
{kSai}.
That is, in Sanskrit 'jai' seems to be the root[1] for a verb
which means 'to wane'.
[1] verbal roots in Sanskrit are not real words.
As an analogy, the verbal root for English 'bear, bearing, borne,
burden' could be 'b-r' (Coulson).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
In the Beatles' Across the Universe 'jai' is IMO
pronounced so that it rhymes with 'high'. The most
common pronunciation seems to rhyme with 'hey'.
I guess the first one might be the more authentic
pronunciation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman
at_man_and_brahman@ wrote:
Hindi vs Sanskrit
Could be, but the original Sanskrit(?) version near the
end of this page...
http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=48197
Hupsankeikkaa! I mean, this:
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/Beacon.htm
Sorry! :)
...seems to be 'jaya shrii gurudeva'.
The only Sanskrit meaning for 'jai' I can find in Monier-Williams
is
this:
jai cl. 1. %{jAyati} , to wane , perish Dha1tup. xxii , 17 ; cf. %
{kSai}.
That is, in Sanskrit 'jai' seems to be the root[1] for a verb
which means 'to wane'.
[1] verbal roots in Sanskrit are not real words.
As an analogy, the verbal root for English 'bear, bearing, borne,
burden' could be 'b-r' (Coulson).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
wrote:
In the Beatles' Across the Universe 'jai' is IMO
pronounced so that it rhymes with 'high'. The most
common pronunciation seems to rhyme with 'hey'.
I guess the first one might be the more authentic
pronunciation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai?
Hindi vs Sanskrit --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Beatles' Across the Universe 'jai' is IMO pronounced so that it rhymes with 'high'. The most common pronunciation seems to rhyme with 'hey'. I guess the first one might be the more authentic pronunciation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://mou.org/media/replay.cgi looks like mou 24 hr is back on free status...heard some great chanting tonight: http://www.globalcountry.org/EasyWeb.asp?pcpid=43 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jai Guru Dev Jai-Alai Jai Uttal Jai Maharaj Jai Rodriquez To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jai Guru Dev Jai-Alai Jai Uttal Jai Maharaj Jai Rodriquez If that last one is for Robert, I'm down with it... :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jai Guru Dev Jai-Alai Jai Uttal Jai Maharaj Jai Rodriquez If that last one is for Robert, I'm down with it... :-) I don't know who Robert is, unless you're referring to Bob Bobananda Brigante, in which case, I think Jai would be a weee bit too fabulous for him: http://tinyurl.com/av379 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jai Guru Dev Jai-Alai Jai Uttal Jai Maharaj Jai Rodriquez If that last one is for Robert, I'm down with it... :-) I don't know who Robert is, unless you're referring to Bob Bobananda Brigante, in which case, I think Jai would be a weee bit too fabulous for him: http://tinyurl.com/av379 I was thinking Robert Rodriguez, director of El Mariachi, Desperado, From Dusk Till Dawn, the Spy Kids movies, and Sin City. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Guru Dev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jai Guru Dev Jai-Alai Jai Uttal Jai Maharaj Jai Rodriquez If that last one is for Robert, I'm down with it... :-) I don't know who Robert is, unless you're referring to Bob Bobananda Brigante, in which case, I think Jai would be a weee bit too fabulous for him: http://tinyurl.com/av379 I was thinking Robert Rodriguez, director of Never heard of him. El Mariachi, Never heard of it. Desperado, Never heard of it. From Dusk Till Dawn, Never heard of it. the Spy Kids movies, Vaguely remember some ads on TV for them. and Sin City. :-) Heard of it. Never saw it. Ok, so I'm the *one* ru in town who's not a movie buff. Although, a while back, some dialog on FFL did inspire me to see American Beauty, and I quite liked it. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Guru Dev
I was thinking Robert Rodriguez, director of Never heard of him. A very interesting filmmaker. I like him a lot. El Mariachi, Never heard of it. Rodriguez's first released film, made on a budget of $7000, which he earned by selling his body to science. Really. He had himself checked in to a hospital for six months while they shot him full of experimental drugs. El Mariachi was never supposed to be shown in theaters; it was destined for the Mexican straight- to-video market, to make some money so he could make a real movie. Someone entered it at Sundance. It won the audience prize and a career was launched. Desperado, Never heard of it. Big-budget sequel of El Mariachi, this time with a big budget and stars who weren't big then but who are now, like Antonio Banderas and Salma Hayek. Great flick. From Dusk Till Dawn, Never heard of it. Even bigger-budget Rodriguez movie of a Tarantino script, with Tarantino playing one of the leads, opposite George Clooney and Harvey Keitel. the Spy Kids movies, Vaguely remember some ads on TV for them. Rodriguez is a Hispanic American brought up in Austin, Texas who doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't do drugs, and who has been married to the same woman since (I think) high school, with whom he has a few kids. Rodriguez makes violent movies, sometimes mega-violent movies. So when his kids got big enough to ask, When can we see one of your movies, Daddy? he had to realize that they were a bit too much for them. So he put together the Spy Kids trilogy, which presented cool movies that kids actually enjoyed watching, and made him a bundle. and Sin City. :-) Heard of it. Never saw it. Best film of 2005 so far. You really don't want to get me talking about Robert Rodriguez. I think he's a cool guy. Ok, so I'm the *one* ru in town who's not a movie buff. Although, a while back, some dialog on FFL did inspire me to see American Beauty, and I quite liked it. Tremendous film. I used to own the script, because I wanted to see whether it was primarily a director movie or a screen- writer movie. It was a screenwriter movie. Everything was there in Alan Ball's script. The only thing the director had to do was to cut a few scenes short. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
