[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga..

2007-01-20 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> some masturbation is worship at some of the greatest temples

Doubtful.procreation of Shiva/Shakti more probable!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-20 Thread llundrub
some masturbation is worship at some of the greatest temples


[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-19 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Men throughout the ages have all of this pride in celibacy. All of 
them  fail 
> at it. The information that I have
> through channeled 7th dimensional masters is that Guru Deve was 
not a life  
> long celibate. You cannot have one side of the coin without the 
other. Balance  
> is the key, not complete denial about your shakti energy. If
> one is to ascend then one much embrace the root chakra as well as 
the  
> others. Also, the goddess energy
> is in a state of denial when you avoid the sexual aspect of life. 
Men have  
> denied themselves the goddess and the goddess has felt ashamed of 
its sexuality 
>  because men are threatened by her power. So they told her
> she should be ashamed. In the higher worlds of the fifth, sixth 
and seventh  
> dimensions it is normal to exchange energy with others on a daily 
basis. They  
> are more concerned with upper charka climax. The climax they 
experience 
> through  the crown chakra is 100 times more powerful and enjoyable 
than the genital 
>  climax. On earth we are primarily concerned with genital climax 
and this 
> limits  our appreciation for the sexual experience. As we continue 
to grow in 
> higher  states of consciousness we will eventually be more drawn 
to a 
> neurological  climax. Until then we have to process our limited 
view of sexuality till we 
> can  achieve a new approach to love making. Those who have a lot 
of sexual 
> energy and  enjoy the fantasy of love making or pure sex should 
not be ashamed 
> as they  process there own experiences through masturbation or 
with another 
> human being.  Ideally one would be processing their stuff with 
another spiritual 
> human being  and work together to develop a more enlightened 
aspect of 
> sexuality. Tantra Yoga  offers a start to this type of experience 
but the emphasis on 


> saving energy and  controlling the experience is not a part of a 
higher 
> teaching of Tantra. Love  and Light. Lou Valentino.

Good post. When the ego is attached to the "IDEA" of celebacy and 
there is pride and effort involved then this is mood making. 
The "holier than thou" idea of celibacy is a contradiction to 
enlightenment.
Effort and moodmaking is equivilant to suppression, and that creates 
disease.

>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-19 Thread llundrub
Yeah. tantra yabyum now you figured it out, now study it yourself.

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From: "Bhairitu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men 
only!)


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Men throughout the ages have all of this pride in celibacy. All of them 
>> fail
>> at it. The information that I have
>> through channeled 7th dimensional masters is that Guru Deve was not a 
>> life
>> long celibate. You cannot have one side of the coin without the other. 
>> Balance
>> is the key, not complete denial about your shakti energy. If
>> one is to ascend then one much embrace the root chakra as well as the
>> others. Also, the goddess energy
>> is in a state of denial when you avoid the sexual aspect of life. Men 
>> have
>> denied themselves the goddess and the goddess has felt ashamed of its 
>> sexuality
>>  because men are threatened by her power. So they told her
>> she should be ashamed. In the higher worlds of the fifth, sixth and 
>> seventh
>> dimensions it is normal to exchange energy with others on a daily basis. 
>> They
>> are more concerned with upper charka climax. The climax they experience
>> through  the crown chakra is 100 times more powerful and enjoyable than 
>> the genital
>>  climax. On earth we are primarily concerned with genital climax and this
>> limits  our appreciation for the sexual experience. As we continue to 
>> grow in
>> higher  states of consciousness we will eventually be more drawn to a
>> neurological  climax. Until then we have to process our limited view of 
>> sexuality till we
>> can  achieve a new approach to love making. Those who have a lot of 
>> sexual
>> energy and  enjoy the fantasy of love making or pure sex should not be 
>> ashamed
>> as they  process there own experiences through masturbation or with 
>> another
>> human being.  Ideally one would be processing their stuff with another 
>> spiritual
>> human being  and work together to develop a more enlightened aspect of
>> sexuality. Tantra Yoga  offers a start to this type of experience but the 
>> emphasis on
>> saving energy and  controlling the experience is not a part of a higher
>> teaching of Tantra. Love  and Light. Lou Valentino.
> Very good.  However in actually the tantric shmashan rituals are
> advanced though there are substitutions for them.
>
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-19 Thread Bhairitu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Men throughout the ages have all of this pride in celibacy. All of them  fail 
> at it. The information that I have
> through channeled 7th dimensional masters is that Guru Deve was not a life  
> long celibate. You cannot have one side of the coin without the other. 
> Balance  
> is the key, not complete denial about your shakti energy. If
> one is to ascend then one much embrace the root chakra as well as the  
> others. Also, the goddess energy
> is in a state of denial when you avoid the sexual aspect of life. Men have  
> denied themselves the goddess and the goddess has felt ashamed of its 
> sexuality 
>  because men are threatened by her power. So they told her
> she should be ashamed. In the higher worlds of the fifth, sixth and seventh  
> dimensions it is normal to exchange energy with others on a daily basis. They 
>  
> are more concerned with upper charka climax. The climax they experience 
> through  the crown chakra is 100 times more powerful and enjoyable than the 
> genital 
>  climax. On earth we are primarily concerned with genital climax and this 
> limits  our appreciation for the sexual experience. As we continue to grow in 
> higher  states of consciousness we will eventually be more drawn to a 
> neurological  climax. Until then we have to process our limited view of 
> sexuality till we 
> can  achieve a new approach to love making. Those who have a lot of sexual 
> energy and  enjoy the fantasy of love making or pure sex should not be 
> ashamed 
> as they  process there own experiences through masturbation or with another 
> human being.  Ideally one would be processing their stuff with another 
> spiritual 
> human being  and work together to develop a more enlightened aspect of 
> sexuality. Tantra Yoga  offers a start to this type of experience but the 
> emphasis on 
> saving energy and  controlling the experience is not a part of a higher 
> teaching of Tantra. Love  and Light. Lou Valentino.
Very good.  However in actually the tantric shmashan rituals are 
advanced though there are substitutions for them.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-19 Thread Lsoma
Men throughout the ages have all of this pride in celibacy. All of them  fail 
at it. The information that I have
through channeled 7th dimensional masters is that Guru Deve was not a life  
long celibate. You cannot have one side of the coin without the other. Balance  
is the key, not complete denial about your shakti energy. If
one is to ascend then one much embrace the root chakra as well as the  
others. Also, the goddess energy
is in a state of denial when you avoid the sexual aspect of life. Men have  
denied themselves the goddess and the goddess has felt ashamed of its sexuality 
 because men are threatened by her power. So they told her
she should be ashamed. In the higher worlds of the fifth, sixth and seventh  
dimensions it is normal to exchange energy with others on a daily basis. They  
are more concerned with upper charka climax. The climax they experience 
through  the crown chakra is 100 times more powerful and enjoyable than the 
genital 
 climax. On earth we are primarily concerned with genital climax and this 
limits  our appreciation for the sexual experience. As we continue to grow in 
higher  states of consciousness we will eventually be more drawn to a 
neurological  climax. Until then we have to process our limited view of 
sexuality till we 
can  achieve a new approach to love making. Those who have a lot of sexual 
energy and  enjoy the fantasy of love making or pure sex should not be ashamed 
as they  process there own experiences through masturbation or with another 
human being.  Ideally one would be processing their stuff with another 
spiritual 
human being  and work together to develop a more enlightened aspect of 
sexuality. Tantra Yoga  offers a start to this type of experience but the 
emphasis on 
saving energy and  controlling the experience is not a part of a higher 
teaching of Tantra. Love  and Light. Lou Valentino.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> for some people shakti is never quiet and jacking off is not even a pause in 
> evolution

When I was younger, I would pause only to meditate, eat, and [sometimes] sleep. 
Well, riding 
on the bus or on my bike were also pauses.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-18 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> for some people shakti is never quiet and jacking off is not even a
pause in 
> evolution

If you say so.. 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-18 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rules on sex were probably made during times of famine by kings or 
> priests trying to keep the population down.  There is an ayurvedic 
> connection in that excessive masterbation can make one vata.  It is the 
> vata imbalance that will impede spiritual development.  BTW, women 
> masterbate too.  :)
> 

FWIW, Mr. Jonathan Bate was the CEO of Benefon Oyj for
a couple of months, but he certainly was no Master...  ;)

http://www.digitoday.fi/tiedostot/folder_1/cmsth3_vLDUwnmb.jpg






[FairfieldLife] Re: Masterbation and Yoga...(Sorry Judy, men only!)

2007-01-18 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rules on sex were probably made during times of famine by kings or 
> priests trying to keep the population down.  There is an ayurvedic 
> connection in that excessive masterbation can make one vata.  It is the 
> vata imbalance that will impede spiritual development.  BTW, women 
> masterbate too.  :)


You're not suggesting...no, that, well, you know who, masterbates are you?