[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread hermandan0
Leonard Cohen--All There is to Know About Adolf Eichmann Eyes: Medium Hair: Medium Weight: Medium Height: Medium Distinguishing features: None Number of fingers: Ten Intelligence: Medium What did you expect? Talons? Oversize incisors? Green saliva? Madness? -Leonard Cohen --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip But no, that would kill some of Hitlers menace, and that is what these people can't seem to grasp hence all the extra things he has to have been doing/possessed by etc. to justify the terrible reality of him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leonard Cohen--All There is to Know About Adolf Eichmann Eyes: Medium Hair: Medium Weight: Medium Height: Medium Distinguishing features: None Number of fingers: Ten Intelligence: Medium What did

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 no_reply@ wrote: Leonard Cohen--All There is to Know About Adolf Eichmann Eyes: Medium Hair: Medium Weight: Medium Height: Medium Distinguishing

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip But no, that would kill some of Hitlers menace, and that is what these people can't seem to grasp hence all the extra things

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip But no, that would kill some of Hitlers menace, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread curtisdeltablues
Crowley never summoned enough magic to blow out a match, why would the third reich be any different? It was a new religion for them to go with their new empire, no more than that. Favorite quote of the day! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My POV, drawing from the material I posted and several hypotheses I stated is that: 1) the society and culture the preceded the Third Reich had many new-age elements that we have today (and that does not imply

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating, this historic scapegoating of Jews amazes me. When did it start? was it really all because the elders of Jerusalem demanded Christ be sacrificed? Joseph Atwill's Caesar's Messiah provides the most

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:30 AM, hugheshugo wrote: I honestly don't think it's likely or, knowing the people I hang out with, even possible in the TMO. I think everyone would walk away sadly shaking their heads if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:30 AM, hugheshugo wrote: I honestly don't think it's likely or, knowing the people I hang out with, even possible in the TMO. I think everyone would walk away sadly shaking their heads if it all got too weird. If? Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:30 AM, hugheshugo wrote: I honestly don't think it's likely or, knowing the people I hang out with, even possible in the TMO. I think everyone would walk away sadly shaking their heads if

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-21 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:30 AM, hugheshugo wrote: I honestly don't think it's likely or, knowing the people I hang out with, even

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 20, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Vaj wrote: On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:40 PM, new.morning wrote: Curious about Angela's points about the occult / new age-like, spiritual side of the Third Reich, I found some articles. Here

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread boo_lives
Shri Aurobindo claimed Hitler was under the influence of a powerful demonic subtle being. Many of Aurobindo's followers were attracted to Hitler during his initial rise as they had been anti-British freedom fighters for India (the enemy of my enemy idea) and as Hitler tended to use idealistic

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shri Aurobindo claimed Hitler was under the influence of a powerful demonic subtle being. Many of Aurobindo's followers were attracted to Hitler during his initial rise as they had been anti-British freedom fighters

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Angela Mailander
I agree completely, Turq. Hitler was an ordinary man. He had handlers who knew exactly what they were doing. a TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shri Aurobindo claimed Hitler was under

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I think it's all caused by fear. Fear that if Hitler wasn't possessed/in league

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I think it's all caused by fear. Fear that if Hitler wasn't possessed/in league

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there was the Brookings Institute when commissioned to do a study about what the US government should do if during space exploration came across alien cultures or remnants of them that it should be kept secret

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I think it's all caused by fear. Fear that if Hitler wasn't possessed/in league with aliens/ the devil etc. then he must have been closer to us than we like to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Bhairitu
Then there was the Brookings Institute when commissioned to do a study about what the US government should do if during space exploration came across alien cultures or remnants of them that it should be kept secret as it could cause upheaval especially among religious organizations. Angela

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
So I don't buy any theory that paints the sociopath as different or special in any way except his behavior. JUST as I don't buy any theory that paints the *enlightened* as different or special in any way. For me, they're all Just Human. While I agree that he show Dexter rocks, that

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Vaj
On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:20 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I don't buy any theory that paints the sociopath as different or special in any way except his behavior. JUST as I don't buy any theory that paints the

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I don't buy any theory that paints the sociopath as different or special in any way except his behavior. JUST as I don't buy any theory that paints the *enlightened* as different or special in any way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Another point might be that if we categorise Hitler as a sociopath isn't that the same kind of pushing him away as the conspiracy theorists do. Another way of saying we're safe because he aint like us. I think the different way we are looking at this, and that includes Turq, is that you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Angela Mailander
It wouldn't have saved the world a spot of bother. Hitler was created by what someone has called the money party. He was created to do a certain thing. If not him, they'd have found somebody else. a hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread curtisdeltablues
Good point, but was Hitler actually a sociopath? My understanding of it is that it's not so easy to diagnose and the symptoms can be misinterpreted. I read a biography of Adolf and he seemed a product of circumstance rather than someone certifiable from birth. I think the nature vs

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another point might be that if we categorise Hitler as a sociopath isn't that the same kind of pushing him away as the conspiracy theorists do. Another way of saying we're safe because he aint like us.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point, but was Hitler actually a sociopath? My understanding of it is that it's not so easy to diagnose and the symptoms can be misinterpreted. I read a biography of Adolf and he seemed a product of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 20, 2007, at 12:03 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: We are accustomed to think of sociopaths as violent criminals, but in The Sociopath Next Door, Harvard psychologist Martha Stout reveals that a shocking 4 percent of ordinary people—one in twenty-five—has an often undetected mental disorder,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Vaj
On Nov 20, 2007, at 2:20 PM, hugheshugo wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another point might be that if we categorise Hitler as a sociopath isn't that the same kind of pushing him away as the conspiracy theorists do. Another way of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-20 Thread Angela Mailander
Curtis said: More troubling to me are the societal self preservation programming that allowed large groups of people to ignore it all and to participate. That is one that we can't comfortably distance ourselves from with labels! They were us. That's an excellent point and my main concern

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age-Like Elements and the Third Reich

2007-11-19 Thread new . morning
Some more new-age like elements http://www.crystalinks.com/thule.html With the victory of the Nazi Party, the occult tradition was carried on in the Third Reich mainly by the SS, who Reichsfuhrer, Himmler, was an avid student of the occult. ... Occult research took SS researchers as far afield