[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

2010-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:
 
 Judy, any comments on this one? I get crap like this all the
 time from a conservative friend. Usually I'm working and don't
 have time to respond. If I did, I probably wouldn't come up
 with anything as well-informed as you would. Feel free to
 skip it, but if you feel inclined to write something, please
 do.

I'll take a shot. I'm not wildly thrilled with how Obama
has handled this myself, but for somewhat different reasons.

All this should be seen in the light of constant complaints
from both left and right that Obama hasn't been tough 
enough on BP. Maybe the guy who wrote this wasn't one of
them, but if he was, it's a bit hypocritical for him now 
to dump on Obama for thuggery.

snip
 Take Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's remark that he would
 keep his boot on the neck of BP

I thought that turn of phrase was awful, myself.

 Or consider Obama's undoubtedly carefully considered statement
 to Matt Lauer that he was consulting with experts so I know
 whose ass to kick.

NBC is responsible for misunderstandings about this remark.
They released a sound bite of Obama saying this, and it's
been endlessly repeated as though it were, as the writer 
says, carefully considered.

But here's what Lauer had said that Obama was responding to:

Critics are...saying..., this is not the time to meet with
experts and advisors. This is a time to spend more time in
the Gulf and — I never thought I'd say this to a President —
but kick some butt.

If you now listen to Obama's response, you'll see that he's
echoing Lauer's wording: He's having meetings with experts
and advisors so he knows whose ass to kick. You can hear
this very clearly in his vocal inflection when you know
what Lauer said:

  KICK.
whose to 
   ass 

If he'd come up with the phrase on his own without
reference to what Lauer said, it would be:

   ASS
whose to
  kick.

snip
 Then there is Obama's decision to impose a six-month
 moratorium on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf. This
 penalizes companies with better safety records than BP's
 and will result in many advanced drilling rigs being sent
 to offshore oil fields abroad.

This is a tough one; it's going to be very painful for those
who make their living from deepwater drilling.

But it isn't just a matter of safety records. Deepwater
drilling is inherently dangerous, and accidents can happen
even to those with excellent records. Part of the problem
is that the blowout preventers aren't fail-safe; part of
the problem is that safety requirements have not been
strictly imposed by the MMS. A good safety record may be
as much due to luck as anything else. The whole system
needs a major overhaul to minimize the risks.

Because the *consequences* of a blowout are just too dire.
At this point *nobody knows* how to plug a blown-out well
in deep water; nobody knows how to effectively clean up
the oil. There may not be a good way to do either.

Under Bush, MMS simply accepted oil companies' assurances
that if a spill were to occur, it could be handled
satisfactorily without serious damage to the environment.
The blowout preventers were cited as fail-safe mechanisms
to ensure a well could be sealed after a blowout with
minimal escape of oil. None of that was true; the oil
companies knew it, and MMS probably knew it too.

Unfortunately, Obama had so many things on his priority
list that reforming MMS wasn't near the top. Salazar
got rid of some of the worst of the corruption, but there
were all kinds of ineffiency and slackness and regulatory
capture that he didn't even make a start on.

 The justification offered was an Interior Department report
 supposedly peer reviewed by experts identified by the
 National Academy of Engineering. But it turned out the
 drafts the experts saw didn't include any recommendation
 for a moratorium. Eight of the cited experts have said they
 oppose the moratorium as more economically devastating than
 the oil spill and counterproductive to safety.

Don't know the full story on this. I'm inclined to think
the administration tried to pull a fast one and got caught.

snip
 And what about the decision not to waive the Jones Act,
 which bars foreign-flag vessels from coming to the aid of
 the Gulf cleanup? The Bush administration promptly waived
 it after Katrina in 2005. The Obama administration hasn't
 and claims unconvincingly that, gee, there aren't really
 any foreign vessels that could help.

Not true, almost certainly knowingly false. There are many
foreign vessels currently helping out. And the Jones Act 
doesn't *need* to be waived because it has to do with
vessels shipping commercial goods; it doesn't apply in
this situation.

snip
 Or the decision to deny Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's
 proposal to deploy barges to skim oil from the Gulf's
 surface. Can't do that until we see if they've got enough
 life preservers and fire equipment.

Can you imagine the outrage if 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

2010-06-21 Thread Rick Archer
Thanks Judy. That was great. I sent it to him.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

2010-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 Thanks Judy. That was great. I sent it to him.

And a whole lot of good it'll do, I'm sure!




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

2010-06-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:
snip

Shoot, stupid software helpfully deleted my careful
spacing and made hash of what I was trying to show.

Try it with dots instead of spaces. Echoing Lauer, the
voice goes down, then up:

..KICK.
whose.to..
...ass.

Without reference to what Lauer said, the voice would
have gone up, then down:
 
...ASS..
whose.to...
..kick.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

2010-06-21 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
 
 Shoot, stupid software helpfully deleted my careful
 spacing and made hash of what I was trying to show.
 
 Try it with dots instead of spaces. Echoing Lauer, the
 voice goes down, then up:
 
 ..KICK.
 whose.to..
 ...ass.
 
 Without reference to what Lauer said, the voice would
 have gone up, then down:
  
 ...ASS..
 whose.to...
 ..kick.

Nuts. Never mind! Forgot it wouldn't come out monospaced.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill

2010-06-21 Thread sgrayatlarge
So you aren't well informed about conservative thought? That's interesting.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 
 Judy, any comments on this one? I get crap like this all the time from a
 conservative friend. Usually I'm working and don't have time to respond. If
 I did, I probably wouldn't come up with anything as well-informed as you
 would. Feel free to skip it, but if you feel inclined to write something,
 please do.
 
 
  
 
 
 Obama's thuggery is useless in fighting spill
 
 
 By: Michael http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bios/michael-barone.html
 Barone 
 Senior Political Analyst
 June 20, 2010 
 
 
 http://media.washingtonexaminer.com/images/250*157/w.obama.0620.jpg
  
 
 President Barack Obama waves as he exits Air Force One at Andrews Air Force
 Base, Md., on Friday. (Cliff Owen/AP) 
  
   
 Thuggery is unattractive. Ineffective thuggery even more so. Which may be
 one reason so many Americans have been reacting negatively to the response
 of Barack Obama and his administration to BP's Gulf oil spill.
 Take Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's remark that he would keep his boot on
 the neck of BP, which brings to mind George Orwell's definition of
 totalitarianism as a boot stamping on a human face -- forever. Except that
 Salazar's boot hasn't gotten much in the way of results yet.
 Or consider Obama's undoubtedly carefully considered statement to Matt Lauer
 that he was consulting with experts so I know whose ass to kick. Attacking
 others is a standard campaign tactic when you're in political trouble, and
 certainly BP, which appears to have taken unwise shortcuts in the Gulf, is
 an attractive target.
 But you don't always win arguments that way. The Obama White House gleefully
 took on Dick Cheney on the issue of terrorist interrogations. It turned out
 that more Americans agreed with Cheney's stand, despite his low poll
 numbers, than Obama's.
 Then there is Obama's decision to impose a six-month moratorium on deepwater
 oil drilling in the Gulf. This penalizes companies with better safety
 records than BP's and will result in many advanced drilling rigs being sent
 to offshore oil fields abroad.
 The justification offered was an Interior Department report supposedly peer
 reviewed by experts identified by the National Academy of Engineering.
 But it turned out the drafts the experts saw didn't include any
 recommendation for a moratorium. Eight of the cited experts have said they
 oppose the moratorium as more economically devastating than the oil spill
 and counterproductive to safety.
 This was blatant dishonesty by the administration, on an Orwellian scale. In
 defense of a policy that has all the earmarks of mindless panic, that
 penalizes firms and individuals guilty of no wrongdoing and that will worsen
 rather than improve our energy situation. Ineffective thuggery.
 And what about the decision not to waive the Jones Act, which bars
 foreign-flag vessels from coming to the aid of the Gulf cleanup? The Bush
 administration promptly waived it after Katrina in 2005. The Obama
 administration hasn't and claims unconvincingly that, gee, there aren't
 really any foreign vessels that could help.
 The more plausible explanation is that this is a sop to the maritime unions,
 part of the union movement that gave Obama and other Democrats $400 million
 in the 2008 campaign cycle. It's the Chicago way: Dance with the girl that
 brung ya.
 Or the decision to deny Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's proposal to deploy
 barges to skim oil from the Gulf's surface. Can't do that until we see if
 they've got enough life preservers and fire equipment. That inspired blogger
 Rand Simberg to write a blog post he dated June 1, 1940: The evacuation of
 British and French troops from the besieged French city of Dunkirk was
 halted today, over concerns that many of the private vessels that had been
 deployed for the task were unsafe for troop transport.
 Finally, the $20 billion escrow fund that Obama pried out of the BP treasury
 at the White House when he talked for the first time, 57 days after the rig
 exploded, with BP Chairman Tony Hayward. It's pleasing to think that those
 injured by BP will be paid off speedily, but House Republican Joe Barton had
 a point, though an impolitic one, when he called this a shakedown.
 For there already are laws in place that insure that BP will be held
 responsible for damages and the company has said it will comply. So what we
 have is government transferring property from one party, an admittedly
 unattractive one, to others, not based on pre-existing laws but on decisions
 by one man, pay czar Kenneth Feinberg.
 Feinberg gets good reviews from everyone. But the Constitution does not
 command no person . . . shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty or
 property, without due process of law except by the decision of a person as
 wise and capable as Kenneth Feinberg. The Framers stopped at due process
 of law.
 Obama doesn't. If he sees any