[FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
A similar figure in England. I think they call it wealthfare a helping hand for those at the top, who want to stay there Which wouldn't be so bad if they weren't sadistically harassing those at the bottom, and cutting any entitlement even people in work have to have just to make ends meet to pay for it all. Oligarchs R us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
On 4/9/2014 4:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: A similar figure in England. I think they call it wealthfare a helping hand for those at the top, who want to stay there So, what does Mike Dixon have to do with U.K. finances? In the U.S., most individuals that are wealthy get that way through capital gains from stock investments in corporations. In any given year, there are probably only .01% of the really wealthy whose portfolio increases. Many U.S. citizens have pensions that are invested in large corporations - 501k plans - which constitute their life savings and retirement funds. In the U.S., everyone has an equal opportunity to make money to invest or spend.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
Richard, I don't agree with the idea that everyone in America has equal opportunity for anything. It's an ideal which we haven't reached yet imo. Do you really think that a black male born in the ghetto has equal opportunities with a white male born to a wealthy family?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:05 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/9/2014 4:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: A similar figure in England. I think they call it wealthfare a helping hand for those at the top, who want to stay there So, what does Mike Dixon have to do with U.K. finances? In the U.S., most individuals that are wealthy get that way through capital gains from stock investments in corporations. In any given year, there are probably only .01% of the really wealthy whose portfolio increases. Many U.S. citizens have pensions that are invested in large corporations - 501k plans - which constitute their life savings and retirement funds. In the U.S., everyone has an equal opportunity to make money to invest or spend.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
Share, the government can insure *legal opportunity*via our laws. It can't insure *circumstantial opportunity*which is based on our karma. The one intelligent thing I remember Jimmy Carter saying was life isn't fair, at least as how we define *fair*, all things being equal. The government can provide equal opportunity, it can't promise equal outcome nor should it. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:48 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, I don't agree with the idea that everyone in America has equal opportunity for anything. It's an ideal which we haven't reached yet imo. Do you really think that a black male born in the ghetto has equal opportunities with a white male born to a wealthy family?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:05 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/9/2014 4:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: A similar figure in England. I think they call it wealthfare a helping hand for those at the top, who want to stay there So, what does Mike Dixon have to do with U.K. finances? In the U.S., most individuals that are wealthy get that way through capital gains from stock investments in corporations. In any given year, there are probably only .01% of the really wealthy whose portfolio increases. Many U.S. citizens have pensions that are invested in large corporations - 501k plans - which constitute their life savings and retirement funds. In the U.S., everyone has an equal opportunity to make money to invest or spend.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
On 04/09/2014 05:05 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/9/2014 4:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: A similar figure in England. I think they call it wealthfare a helping hand for those at the top, who want to stay there So, what does Mike Dixon have to do with U.K. finances? In the U.S., most individuals that are wealthy get that way through capital gains from stock investments in corporations. In any given year, there are probably only .01% of the really wealthy whose portfolio increases. Many U.S. citizens have pensions that are invested in large corporations - 501k plans - which constitute their life savings and retirement funds. In the U.S., everyone has an equal opportunity to make money to invest or spend. Really? For kicks why don't you go out and apply for some tech jobs (since you apparently have a background in tech) and see what happens at your age. You'd think entrepreneurs would be chomping at the big to grab people who actually have REAL experience. America is fucked. Americans are fucked by the big corporations.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
On 4/9/2014 9:41 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I don't agree with the idea that everyone in America has equal opportunity for anything. It's an ideal which we haven't reached yet imo. Do you really think that a black male born in the ghetto has equal opportunities with a white male born to a wealthy family?! Everyone in the U.S. that is a citizen has the same rights as any other citizen - we are all equal under the law, Share. And, we have equal opportunity for economic success, regardless of birth circumstances. In America, nobody can tell you how much money you are going to earn and what you are going to spend it on or not, other than federal and state taxes. So, there are some things to consider: 1. Finish high school and get some college courses. 2. Don't get married until you have finished school. 3. Don't have any offspring until you can afford it. 4. If you do get married, have a five year space between siblings.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
On 4/9/2014 10:55 AM, Bhairitu wrote: In the U.S., everyone has an equal opportunity to make money to invest or spend. Really? For kicks why don't you go out and apply for some tech jobs (since you apparently have a background in tech) and see what happens at your age. You'd think entrepreneurs would be chomping at the big to grab people who actually have REAL experience. In order to get a tech job, you have to reference some experience at tech - that means in the past five years you have to be able to show a prospective employer that you can do the work for a company and that you were on the payroll. You can't get a job if your resume has a five or ten year blank on it where you list your previous employers - sorry, self-employed doesn't make the grade anymore. And, most people fresh out of school don't have a work record to begin with, so they can't get hired. What it takes is a plan - in high school take math and science courses. Then, get some college tech courses under your belt. Apprentice yourself to a large and stable company - work up through the ranks and stick with it and establish a record of good work. You are not going to get a good-paying, long-term job with benefits working on computers or coding at home in your spare room. In our case, since we have fulfilled all of the above, so we could get a job almost anywhere in computer tech field if we wanted to, even at our age. If it has a screen and a keyboard, we can work it and we can fix it. Call us if you hire and promote based on who has the best ideas.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
Hmmm, I agree that life isn't fair, Mike and that the govt. can't and shouldn't provide equal outcome. BUT...I think more could be done in the area of equal opportunity to ensure that it's practiced and not only recorded in some book. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:36 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, the government can insure *legal opportunity*via our laws. It can't insure *circumstantial opportunity*which is based on our karma. The one intelligent thing I remember Jimmy Carter saying was life isn't fair, at least as how we define *fair*, all things being equal. The government can provide equal opportunity, it can't promise equal outcome nor should it. On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:48 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, I don't agree with the idea that everyone in America has equal opportunity for anything. It's an ideal which we haven't reached yet imo. Do you really think that a black male born in the ghetto has equal opportunities with a white male born to a wealthy family?! On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:05 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/9/2014 4:54 AM, salyavin808 wrote: A similar figure in England. I think they call it wealthfare a helping hand for those at the top, who want to stay there So, what does Mike Dixon have to do with U.K. finances? In the U.S., most individuals that are wealthy get that way through capital gains from stock investments in corporations. In any given year, there are probably only .01% of the really wealthy whose portfolio increases. Many U.S. citizens have pensions that are invested in large corporations - 501k plans - which constitute their life savings and retirement funds. In the U.S., everyone has an equal opportunity to make money to invest or spend.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for Mike Dixon and those who think like him
On 04/09/2014 09:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 4/9/2014 10:55 AM, Bhairitu wrote: In the U.S., everyone has an equal opportunity to make money to invest or spend. Really? For kicks why don't you go out and apply for some tech jobs (since you apparently have a background in tech) and see what happens at your age. You'd think entrepreneurs would be chomping at the big to grab people who actually have REAL experience. In order to get a tech job, you have to reference some experience at tech - that means in the past five years you have to be able to show a prospective employer that you can do the work for a company and that you were on the payroll. You can't get a job if your resume has a five or ten year blank on it where you list your previous employers - sorry, self-employed doesn't make the grade anymore. And, most people fresh out of school don't have a work record to begin with, so they can't get hired. What it takes is a plan - in high school take math and science courses. Then, get some college tech courses under your belt. Apprentice yourself to a large and stable company - work up through the ranks and stick with it and establish a record of good work. You are not going to get a good-paying, long-term job with benefits working on computers or coding at home in your spare room. In our case, since we have fulfilled all of the above, so we could get a job almost anywhere in computer tech field if we wanted to, even at our age. If it has a screen and a keyboard, we can work it and we can fix it. Call us if you hire and promote based on who has the best ideas. First off I'm not speaking for myself but for people I know who are boomers and can't find work anymore in the tech industry. And yes they don't have any gaps in employment. It's just that the young punks don't want to hire grandpa regardless regardless of how much experience he has. After all don't all the young kids know it all? In ten years they'll be passed over too. Second I was on the computer science advisory board for one of the Bay Area colleges back in the mid-90s. We had a bunch of tenured college profs worried that they were going to lose their jobs because their graduates weren't getting hired. Well, for one thing they were still teaching Pascal as a programming language when employers needed C++ and Windows. Things got better when they shifted to the latter but those profs had to burn the midnight oil to catch up. Also many college profs had no real world experience so what they were teaching was all theory. Things should have improved by today and actually back in the late 1990s UC Berkeley inquired about me teaching a class there about how to wing programming SDKs. Wise programmers need to do that because *that* SDK may be out of style two years from now so not worth investing a lot of time in it. Three, I would say 90% of comp sci grads are left brained or software engineers. They cannot create good software worth a damn. It's the the other 10% who are usually right brained who do that. I'm a jazz musician who likes to write code. But tell that to most hiring managers and they will pass you over. Tell that to an entrepreneur and he may respond you're hired! With regard to the above, a client who I do projects for (who is also an old alumni of the company I worked for in the 1990s) asked me to look at the code for a project that has slipped. The programmer had a nervous breakdown and left the company. The project has NO documentation, not even a readme about how it is put together. It is a game using Unity 3D but where you usually have a main scene that calls all the other scenes that is missing. Half the problem is that the programmer problem freaked because the project was slipping and my client said the guy kept changing the existing code base. This is NOT a mistake that a seasoned programmer would make but a newbie will. So you get kids long on theory and very short on experience taking jobs at places like Google and Yahoo (yup that's why Groups sucks). It also means that the programming market is flooded. Four, this morning while sitting on the patio at Starbucks the guy at the next table was on the phone to his gig. This was really weird as he had been called in for jury duty and was on a break. He was pissed because there was a bug in what sounded like an SDK for a sound driver. I would bet he never could have imagined that the old guy sitting at the next table knew exactly what he was talking about and have even heard a problem like what was encountered. After he got off the phone I should have said, I know exactly how frustrating it is to have a bug like that pop up just to see what his reaction would be. But he seemed like a typical 30 something narcissistic engineer (a younger manager will probably send him to pasture shortly) so he might have just glared at me (in that case my reaction would have been to laugh at him).
