[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-16 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am sure there are other summaries of the rise and fall of the Roman empire. Languages change over time, some vanish, some hang on in niche markets. Latin is used at the Vatican, in medicine and biology. Sanskrit is not spoken any more except by a few scholars, except for pundits who probably

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-16 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   I am sure there are other summaries of the rise and fall of the Roman empire. Languages change over time, some vanish, some hang on in niche markets. Latin is used at the Vatican, in medicine and biology. Sanskrit is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-16 Thread salyavin808
It's funny how Paul Simon can do that, I saw the link to the song and read the lyrics before reading the bit you wrote and it transported me too, I was sitting here in quiet revery for about 5 minutes. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Don't look

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-16 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, That's the first time I've seen the lyrics of that song in print. Those guys were geniuses and ahead of their time. But we do have rap now which is another story... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-15 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, The Romans back then were worshipping pagan gods. I tend to think that the people were accepting them as part of the state religion, but not because they believed in them. The educated Romans more likely knew about Greek

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-15 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, Thanks for your thorough analysis. Perhaps, you can summarize for us the rise and fall of the Roman Empire. And, why did Latin die as a language despite its apparent usefulness and application in the ancient known world? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis, There are similarities between Maharishi's concept of the unified field to the teachings of Jesus about the kingdom of God. Both are fields that can be experienced personally by all human beings. These teachers taught that this Field is the source of being and of all creation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Curtis, There are similarities between Maharishi's concept of the unified field to the teachings of Jesus about the kingdom of God. Both are fields that can be experienced personally by all human beings. These teachers taught that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, The Romans back then were worshipping pagan gods. I tend to think that the people were accepting them as part of the state religion, but not because they believed in them. The educated Romans more likely knew about Greek philosophy but regarded it more as an intellectual pursuit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Curtis, There are similarities between Maharishi's concept of the unified field to the teachings of Jesus about the kingdom of God. Both are fields that can be experienced personally by all human beings. These teachers taught that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think I mis-attributed this to Michael first time around. I would really enjoy any insights into Tony Nader that you would like to share. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : snip Here is a way

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
C: What is missing here is an explanation of why anyone should accept that the experiences people have in meditation are in fact an experience of a trans-personal reality. This gap if filled for Maharishi by the use of Mahvakyas and exposure to a specific teaching that convinces a person that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
What sucks for the vacuum cleaner is that it was created from other stuff - and it's in a constant state of flux - meaning it's subject to modification, and in fact, is falling apart right before your eyes. Imagine sitting on the edge of a wild camp fire where flames and sparks are sporting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species   A few thoughts that may lead nowhere . . . At least some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
A few thoughts that may lead nowhere . . . At least some of the experiences we have, for example looking at the moon, are stored somehow in the brain. We know they are stored because we can recall them later.Also, if I first wish for a turkey sub but then prefer a veggie burrito, these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re If transcendental c-ness is a possible experience, lets describe as 'being aware of being aware', then, how would this experience be stored?: It wouldn't be stored! According to MMY the experiences we have of transcending are really just the experiences we have at the edges as we slip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-14 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This was not quite what I was getting at, but I will give it another shot. In my office on the floor here is a vacuum cleaner. It sucks up dust, etc. But it also has another property: being, it has existence. It has being and it sucks dust and collects it in a bag. Now this seemingly other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-13 Thread jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : snip Here is a way to test his seriousness. Answer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-13 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, Without looking up the specific points made by Aristotle, Plato, and Aquinas, I would say the absolute is the same as Being, which is the prime mover in metaphysical analysis. But this point of view, although logical and intellectual, may not satisfy most people. I prefer to take

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species   I would love to hear what Tony said. It wouldn't surprise me if he had the same intellectual qualms Larry Domash did about how Maharishi played fast and loose with their disciplines. When I asked Larry personally about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-13 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
12, 2015 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : snip Here is a way to test his seriousness. Answer this question: Did

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-13 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, I using the word absolute as the the unified field, the consciousness beyond the human perceptions. John, you have been keeping this conversation going, especially with Curtis, who seems to be on a roll these past couple of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-13 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
swallowed up by the Movement up front. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species I would love to hear what Tony

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-12 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : snip Here is a way to test his seriousness. Answer this question: Did Maharishi mean the connection between the unified field in physics to be an analogy, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-12 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
! Lets hear what they both had to say please! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-12 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, I using the word absolute as the the unified field, the consciousness beyond the human perceptions. It is the the Atman, Chat, Chit, and Ananda in the vedas. It is the Being mentioned by Aristotle and Plato. But Maharishi has explained it more explicitly as Bliss. It is the ipsum

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-12 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis, To answer your question, IMO Maharishi would have said that the unified field and physics were used as an analogy. He stated in the past that he wants to convey the ancient vedic wisdom in modern scientific terms. Also, I don't believe most people outside of the TM circle would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-12 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Curtis, It's obvious that Maharishi was trying resolve any of the differences from the traditional knowledge from the vedas with the current scientific understanding and discoveries up until the time of his death. I believe he was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-12 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
John, I seldom watch videos posted on FFL for the reason they take too much time to watch. I can scan and read a post much faster, and I am interested in what people say that comes from their own minds, with the exception of notable quotations from others or a still photograph or two.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-12 Thread jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : snip Here is a way to test his seriousness. Answer this question: Did Maharishi mean the connection between the unified field in physics to be an analogy, or was he equating the two? Try to make a case for your choice. If you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, Maharishi was saying that the universe is part of the creative intelligence of the unified field. Ah yes, I noted that under the usual sap bollocks the other 99.99% of it was the claim that knowledge is different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In Maharishi's version of the Hindu cosmology, all beings are dissolved with the dissolution of creation in the Mahapralaya at the end of the Yuga cycles. The only exception according to Maharishi is a person who has achieved,not just a celestial nervous system, but an absolute nervous

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FYI, Maharishi's version of Hindu cosmology is pretty stock. Much of it derived from the Puranas. But if you were a strict TM'er then you didn't look across the fence or like I did buy the 4 book set of the Shiva Puranas I spotted at the Theosophical Society or go through the stacks at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis, It's obvious that Maharishi was trying resolve any of the differences from the traditional knowledge from the vedas with the current scientific understanding and discoveries up until the time of his death. I believe he was trying to show how the concept of the Brahman could create

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Curtis, It's obvious that Maharishi was trying resolve any of the differences from the traditional knowledge from the vedas with the current scientific understanding and discoveries up until the time of his death. I believe he was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : FYI, Maharishi's version of Hindu cosmology is pretty stock. C: Yes I agree. I was referring to his version because depending on which scripture you read you get different spins on the story of creation. Much of it derived from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, As seen in the video that was posted, it was apparent that Maharishi knew the inherent problems in the scientific methodologies for recognizing the truth. They will undoubtedly bring conclusions that are completely different from those who understand the absolute field through their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-11 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, As seen in the video that was posted, it was apparent that Maharishi knew the inherent problems in the scientific methodologies for recognizing the truth. They will undoubtedly bring conclusions that are completely different

[FairfieldLife] Re: Origin of the Universe and Species

2015-01-10 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Salyavin, Maharishi was saying that the universe is part of the creative intelligence of the unified field. Similarly, he does not say that the origin of species is completely random. Rather, the evolution of species is based on the creative intelligence of the unified field as well.