[FairfieldLife] Re: Primary obstacles to samaadhi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through the repeated experience of Self Realization, siddhis naturally unfold according to the needs of the individual. Before Self Realization, the use or development of siddhis is among the greatest obstacles on the path because it cultivates ahamkara, I-ness, and militates against the attainment of prapatti, complete submission to the will of God, Gods and guru. Six siddhis in particular are considered primary obstacles to samadhi: - clairvoyance (adarsha siddhi or divya siddhi), - clairaudience (shravana siddhi or divyashravana), - divination (pratibha siddhi), - super-feeling (vedana siddhi) and - super-taste (asvadana siddhi), - supersmell (varta siddhi). http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Siddhi/id/62057 That's why the siddhis are practiced with TM, because the consistent transcending helps to protect someone from getting stuck in practice of siddhis. At least that's the way it worked for me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Primary obstacles to samaadhi?
jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Through the repeated experience of Self Realization, siddhis naturally unfold according to the needs of the individual. Before Self Realization, the use or development of siddhis is among the greatest obstacles on the path because it cultivates ahamkara, I-ness, and militates against the attainment of prapatti, complete submission to the will of God, Gods and guru. Six siddhis in particular are considered primary obstacles to samadhi: - clairvoyance (adarsha siddhi or divya siddhi), - clairaudience (shravana siddhi or divyashravana), - divination (pratibha siddhi), - super-feeling (vedana siddhi) and - super-taste (asvadana siddhi), - supersmell (varta siddhi). http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Siddhi/id/62057 That's why the siddhis are practiced with TM, because the consistent transcending helps to protect someone from getting stuck in practice of siddhis. At least that's the way it worked for me. Most all practice or obtaining mantra siddhi (the true siddhis) are done with a key or guru mantra preceding their practice. That enlivens them. Once the practitioner has obtained mantra siddhi or the point where the siddhi is enlivened then they can be invoked on their own. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Primary obstacles to samaadhi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Through the repeated experience of Self Realization, siddhis naturally unfold according to the needs of the individual. Before Self Realization, the use or development of siddhis is among the greatest obstacles on the path because it cultivates ahamkara, I-ness, and militates against the attainment of prapatti, complete submission to the will of God, Gods and guru. Six siddhis in particular are considered primary obstacles to samadhi: - clairvoyance (adarsha siddhi or divya siddhi), - clairaudience (shravana siddhi or divyashravana), - divination (pratibha siddhi), - super-feeling (vedana siddhi) and - super-taste (asvadana siddhi), - supersmell (varta siddhi). http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Siddhi/id/62057 That's why the siddhis are practiced with TM, because the consistent transcending helps to protect someone from getting stuck in practice of siddhis. At least that's the way it worked for me. Most all practice or obtaining mantra siddhi (the true siddhis) are done with a key or guru mantra preceding their practice. That enlivens them. Once the practitioner has obtained mantra siddhi or the point where the siddhi is enlivened then they can be invoked on their own. Thanks for sharing that- makes a lot of sense in terms of the practice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Primary obstacles to samaadhi?
Even if experiencing the siddhis is done with perfect non-individuation without a single moment of himsa ever occuring as well, they are STILL not the last test for a sadhaka toward liberation. Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace to society Human society is at a vital new juncture: the decrepit skeleton of things tried and proven false is rapidly being rent asunder. Today we are on the precipice of a glorious new dawn in human evolution. Embrace this crimson dawn of the glorious new day. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Primary obstacles to samaadhi?
Dharma Mitra wrote: Even if experiencing the siddhis is done with perfect non-individuation without a single moment of himsa ever occuring as well, they are STILL not the last test for a sadhaka toward liberation. Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, in any capacity. Anything less is a menace to society *Human society is at a vital new juncture: the decrepit skeleton of things tried and proven false is rapidly being rent asunder. Today we are on the precipice of a glorious new dawn in human evolution. Embrace this crimson dawn of the glorious new day. * Indeed, in my tradition you are not even given the siddhis unless proper moral conscience is observed. IOW, they are not simply sold to anyone who wants them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
