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On 04/13/2014 06:59 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


On 4/13/2014 8:48 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
The usual symbol for eyes rolling which Yahoo doesn't recognize and 
they use another set which doesn't work via email :(

>
Every family has one weird relative. If you don't know who it is, it's 
probably you.


And you're not weird?  I guess we can all agree on that. :-D





On 04/13/2014 06:26 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:


did anyone else think "racks" when those "at" symbols were posted, 
and then "those shacks", or is that just me?




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Those shacks must have some really nice furniture in them then and 
refrigerators full of food.





   

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On 4/13/2014 8:37 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> I said you brag on and worship Benjy Creme
 >
Addressing the important issues!

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On 4/13/2014 8:48 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
The usual symbol for eyes rolling which Yahoo doesn't recognize and 
they use another set which doesn't work via email :(

>
Every family has one weird relative. If you don't know who it is, it's 
probably you.




On 04/13/2014 06:26 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:


did anyone else think "racks" when those "at" symbols were posted, 
and then "those shacks", or is that just me?




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Those shacks must have some really nice furniture in them then and 
refrigerators full of food.




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The usual symbol for eyes rolling which Yahoo doesn't recognize and they 
use another set which doesn't work via email :(


On 04/13/2014 06:26 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:


did anyone else think "racks" when those "at" symbols were posted, and 
then "those shacks", or is that just me?




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@@

Those shacks must have some really nice furniture in them then and 
refrigerators full of food.



On 04/13/2014 03:03 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


On 4/13/2014 4:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> As far as third world countries, we have one just south of the US
> border.
>
Mexico is a developed country, not a third world country. They use pesos
down there in case you didn't know.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Jackson

I didn't say you bragged on England I said you brag on and worship Benjy Creme, 
which you do.

On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade 
from Dollar
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 8:11 PM

   The Germans didn't choose capitalism it was
 forced upon them by the occupying forces. Guess
 who.As for me bragging about England it can be summed
 up with my post from a couple of days ago which obviously
 escaped your otherwise brilliant mind:
 Don't miss these unforgettable highlights from
 The Cultural History Of The Scorpion 
Nationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7O4nTaTEeghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-yvJKG608

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
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 and Germany
 escaped that particular evil? And England the country of
 your much bragged upon and worshipped Beny Creme?

  On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008 
 wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce
 decoupling trade from Dollar

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

 Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 7:37 PM

 I lived in the US for a year and had my

 first visit to SF with my parents at 15 so I know there are

 huge distances and 10$ a gallon wouldn't be a very

 popular way to get taxation. Not least in Alaska where I

 went fishing salmon for my first printed documentary

 :-) It's one of the things I really liked

 about the US that there

 is plenty of the space. That

 and plenty of friendly and interesting people. But

 it's a shame they have allowed themselves to

 been screwed big time by capitalism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

On 4/13/2014 8:26 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
did anyone else think "racks" when those "at" symbols were posted, and 
then "those shacks", or is that just me?

>
There are some Mexican women that have nice racks - maybe that's what he 
meant. Go figure.

> > @@

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On 4/13/2014 7:30 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> Those shacks must have some really nice furniture in them then and 
> refrigerators full of food.
 >
Shacks don't make a country third world - Oakland, CA has shacks. The 
less said about refrigerators full of food the better.

>
>
> On 04/13/2014 03:03 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>>
>> On 4/13/2014 4:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>> > As far as third world countries, we have one just south of the US
>> > border.
>> >
>> Mexico is a developed country, not a third world country. They use pesos
>> down there in case you didn't know.
>>


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2014-04-13 Thread steve.sundur

did anyone else think "racks" when those "at" symbols were posted, and then 
"those shacks", or is that just me?
 

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 Those shacks must have some really nice furniture in them then and 
refrigerators full of food.
 
 
 On 04/13/2014 03:03 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
 
   On 4/13/2014 4:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
 > As far as third world countries, we have one just south of the US 
 > border. 
 >
 Mexico is a developed country, not a third world country. They use pesos 
 down there in case you didn't know.
 
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Those shacks must have some really nice furniture in them then and 
refrigerators full of food.



On 04/13/2014 03:03 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


On 4/13/2014 4:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> As far as third world countries, we have one just south of the US
> border.
>
Mexico is a developed country, not a third world country. They use pesos
down there in case you didn't know.

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On 4/13/2014 4:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
> As far as third world countries, we have one just south of  the US 
> border. 
 >
Mexico is a developed country, not a third world country. They use pesos 
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An article on whether to prepare for collapse or not:
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/04/business-as-usual.html

As far as third world countries, we have one just south of  the US 
border.  Want a good idea of what life is like there try the award 
winning documentary "Narco Cultura" on Netflix.  It's mainly about a 
style of music that has emerged from the drug wars in Mexico but with 
plenty of info about that war and how it has messed up life there.  Not 
for the feint of heart.


We seem to go through these cycles where the rich get a bit too big for 
their britches and think they need to control the people. The often wind 
up losing their heads because of it.


On 04/13/2014 07:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
salyavin, it looks like a good book and he looks like a serious 
thinker. Unless something extraordinary happens, I do think the whole 
kit and caboodle is gonna come crashing down. Actually I wonder if a 
third world country would be the best place to be...


On Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:29 AM, salyavin808 
 wrote:




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that the US will go through 
a really difficult time and then return even stronger. But my guess is 
that it won't return in the form that it is now. I think there will be 
huge upheavals and many will go through transformations. So many that 
the current structures simply will fall away. At least that's what I'm 
hoping (-:


Nah, we're all doomed:

http://www.policymic.com/articles/85541/nasa-study-concludes-when-civilization-will-end-and-it-s-not-looking-good-for-us

Actually Share, I know you like to read, this is a good and well 
researched book on the subject of our immanent demise:


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Users-Guide-Crisis-Civilization-Save/dp/0745330533

The "how to save it part" at the end is a bit of a joke, tagged on to 
make anyone scared by the rest of it to think that someone in a 
position of power might one day do something anything about any of it. 
But they are all too busy feathering their nests and convincing the 
voters that letting the wealth accumulate at the top is the best way 
to make a fair society.








On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008 
 wrote:


"They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce 
it's dominance over the whole world in a few short years."


May God help us all.
If you think capitalism will take a dip just to return even stronger 
than before please think again. It's understandable that the huge 
transformations that is coming is not yet grasped by most people who 
cling to the glamour of money and power.
There will be no Age of Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, 
New Age or whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of 
this planet isn't completely restructured and gains a new foundation 
based on sharing and brotherhood. I doubt you are so foolish as to 
believe that the gross unbalance and injustice in the use and 
distribution of resources of this planet where thousands of children 
die every single day of hunger can go on indefinitely.
When Maharishi said capitalism will go he meant it will be replaced 
but didn't go into the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème 
has indicated that the new system of economics that will replace the 
current financial system in the aftermath of the huge coming crisis 
(forget 1987 or 2008 think much worse than 1929) will be modeled along 
the social-democratic systems practiced in northern Europe. And yes, 
it definitely incorporates some degree of socialism which will secure 
food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where you live on 
this planet. You might find it useful to get used to the idea.


"Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism"
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Im not a fan of American style capitalism but the reality is the 
United States is going to adapt and come out stronger than ever within 
a short time. When it comes to the current excesses, even the 
Republicans will come to realize what reforms they have to make in 
order to continue to thrive.
NYC is Invincible, it is really the financial capital of the US 
economic system and in not too long America will be truly Invincible. 
They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce it's 
dominance over the whole world in a few short years.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

Cars don't have to be big gas guzzlers either.  I live in a refinery 
town and there are a lot of Prius owners here.  Bet a lot of them work 
at the refinery.  There are also a lot shiny big pickups that have never 
seen a dirt road.  Go figure.


People are buying smart cars like they have in Europe but the gas 
mileage is about the same as larger compact like a Toyota Yaris. So I 
guess they buy the smart car for appearance's sake.


People in the US confuse free enterprise with capitalism.  They think if 
we tax capitalism they won't be able to own a small business.  Those are 
entirely different things.  Few of them actually clip coupons sitting at 
a swimming pool (a classic characterization of a capitalist).  And they 
also think that "rich people create jobs" when actually it's the small 
businesses that create jobs.  For example, Android was a small company 
that Google bought.  They didn't create it.


On 04/13/2014 12:37 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


I lived in the US for a year and had my first visit to SF with my 
parents at 15 so I know there are huge distances and 10$ a gallon 
wouldn't be a very popular way to get taxation. Not least in Alaska 
where I went fishing salmon for my first printed documentary :-)


It's one of the things I really liked about the US that there 
is plenty of the space. That and plenty of friendly and interesting 
people. But it's a shame they have allowed themselves to been screwed 
big time by capitalism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

The Germans didn't choose capitalism it was forced upon them by the occupying 
forces. Guess who.
 As for me bragging about England it can be summed up with my post from a 
couple of days ago which obviously escaped your otherwise brilliant mind:
 

 Don't miss these unforgettable highlights from The Cultural History Of The 
Scorpion Nation
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7O4nTaTEeg 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7O4nTaTEeg
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-yvJKG608 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf-yvJKG608
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 and Germany escaped that particular evil? And England the country of your much 
bragged upon and worshipped Beny Creme?
 
 On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade 
from Dollar
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 7:37 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I lived in the US for a year and had my
 first visit to SF with my parents at 15 so I know there are
 huge distances and 10$ a gallon wouldn't be a very
 popular way to get taxation. Not least in Alaska where I
 went fishing salmon for my first printed documentary
 :-) It's one of the things I really liked
 about the US that there
 is plenty of the space. That
 and plenty of friendly and interesting people. But
 it's a shame they have allowed themselves to
 been screwed big time by capitalism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Jackson

and Germany escaped that particular evil? And England the country of your much 
bragged upon and worshipped Beny Creme?

On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade 
from Dollar
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 7:37 PM

   I lived in the US for a year and had my
 first visit to SF with my parents at 15 so I know there are
 huge distances and 10$ a gallon wouldn't be a very
 popular way to get taxation. Not least in Alaska where I
 went fishing salmon for my first printed documentary
 :-) It's one of the things I really liked
 about the US that there
 is plenty of the space. That
 and plenty of friendly and interesting people. But
 it's a shame they have allowed themselves to
 been screwed big time by capitalism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

I lived in the US for a year and had my first visit to SF with my parents at 15 
so I know there are huge distances and 10$ a gallon wouldn't be a very popular 
way to get taxation. Not least in Alaska where I went fishing salmon for my 
first printed documentary :-) 
 It's one of the things I really liked about the US that there is plenty of the 
space. That and plenty of friendly and interesting people. But it's a shame 
they have allowed themselves to been screwed big time by capitalism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

On 4/13/2014 9:32 AM, Share Long wrote:
> Actually I wonder if a third world country would be the best place to 
> be...
 >
As far as human rights is concerned, you might want to avoid these third 
world countries:

Burma (Myanmar), Cuba, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, Turkmenistan, 
and Uzbekistan. Also included are two territories, Chechnya (Russian 
Federation) and Tibet, whose inhabitants suffer intense repression. 
These states and regions received the Freedom House survey’s lowest 
rating: 7 for political rights and 7 for civil liberties.

Also the most repressive: Belarus, China, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, 
Laos, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Zimbabwe. The territory of Western Sahara 
(most of the territory is controlled by Morocco).

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world.htm

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Same car lot, different salesman.

On 04/13/2014 10:12 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


Perhaps the TMO can take credit for our not having to endure what 
would have been /Romney's/ policies.






Oh, really? And that is your view of Obama? I remind you that when 
Obama was elected there was a huge celebration in the Domes in 
Fairfield with the TMO taking credit for his election due to yogic 
flying. So that should mean that since he is in office the TMO can 
take credit for his policies too, eh?



On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce
    decoupling trade from Dollar
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 4:24 PM

Perhaps you resent it but the Nordic
countries have the strongest economies on this planet.
Saying it "doesn't work very well"
shows you unfortunately have no clue, or probably no
interest in finding out. And you are mixing up Northern
Europe with European economics in general which
doesn't bid very well for a meaningful discussion.
And are Northern European economy "not vastly
different from North American ones" ?You could
start by taxing the Americans at least 40% in direct taxes +
huge indirect taxes on anything from gasoline (In Denmark
they pay 10$ pr gallon)  to food and distribute
that wealth for common good as free healthcare for all, 1
year maternity leave with 100% salary for the mother, 4
months for the father, 1 year payment of 80% of your income
if you're laid off work and give the rest to those
who for different reasons can't work. THEN you can start
comparing the systems.
I certainly wish Obama good luck. But his programs
are too little and too late when almost 50 million Americans
go hungry, the number of people in jails the highest of
any developed country and they have
the highest infant mortality rate of any
western country.
Perhaps he is obstructing change less than previous
Presidents but I'm afraid Obama will be remembered
as a wonderful speaker and not much else.


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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, 
wrote :

Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that
the US will go through a really difficult time and then
return even stronger. But my guess is that it won't
return in the form that it is now. I think there will be
huge upheavals and many will go through transformations. So
many that the current structures simply will fall away. At
least that's what I'm hoping (-:

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


"They will be no long term
decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance
over the whole world in a few short years."
May God help us all.If you think capitalism will
take a dip just to return even stronger than before please
think again. It's understandable that the huge
transformations that is coming is not yet grasped by most
people who cling to the glamour of money and
power.There will be no Age of
Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or
whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of
this planet isn't completely restructured and gains a
new foundation based on sharing and brotherhood. I
doubt you are so
foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance and
injustice in the use and distribution of resources of
this planet where thousands of children die every single day
of hunger can go on indefinitely.
Chicken or
the egg again. I think the only way the world could be
restructured consciously and on purpose (as opposed to this
happening as a result of natural upheaval based on all sorts
of other forces) would be if people were to suddenly have
their eyes and hearts and minds open to come to truly
respect and love others of their species. This isn't
just going to happen because we change our economic
structure. We can't change our economic situation until
our viewpoints and world views change. And what is going to
bring that about en masse?
When Maharishi said capitalism
will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't go into
the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has
indicated that the new system of economics that will replace
the current financial system in the aftermath of the huge
coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much
worse than 1929) will be modeled along t

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On 04/13/2014 09:32 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


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Perhaps you resent it but the Nordic countries have the strongest 
economies on this planet.


Saying it "doesn't work very well" shows you unfortunately have no 
clue, or probably no interest in finding out. And you are mixing up 
Northern Europe with European economics in general which doesn't bid 
very well for a meaningful discussion.


And are Northern European economy "not vastly different from North 
American ones" ?


You could start by taxing the Americans at least 40% in direct taxes + 
huge indirect taxes on anything from gasoline (In Denmark they pay 10$ 
pr gallon)  to food and distribute that wealth for common good as free 
healthcare for all, 1 year maternity leave with 100% salary for the 
mother, 4 months for the father, 1 year payment of 80% of your income 
if you're laid off work and give the rest to those who for different 
reasons can't work. THEN you can start comparing the systems.





A few things since you sound like you haven't been to the US.  In Europe 
which is very dense you can service much of the populace through mass 
transit so even if they do have a car they don't need to drive it 
much.   Not so for the US which is spread out and developed using the 
automobile.  In fact corruptively so because the auto companies did what 
they could do discourage mass transit so they could sell more cars.


So we are used to some autonomy in our travel.  And when they try to 
develop mass transit it is often done badly.  We have a train service 
called Bay Area Rapid Transit which was conceived in the 1960s and has 
developed very little since.   It is expensive to maintain and now they 
need to replace the aging trains.  There is not enough service for the 
populace to use it that much plus you often need to drive to the BART 
station and then parking is all taken up.  So people drive instead.  
This is all due to narcissistic politicians (of either party) wanting 
their way.


40% direct taxes on the poor and middle class would definitely spout a 
revolution.  Even conservatives say that if the Republicans take away 
Social Security the elderly would even march  Washington DC and burn it 
to the ground.  What  has worked well in the past was progressive 
taxation but those of us who favor it are accused of being mean to the 
"poor rich people."  What would also help is not having foreign wars to 
protect "American interests" which are of course "corporate interests" 
and they should be on their own for that. Without the wars of the last 
10 years we could have provided free healthcare for everyone.

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2014-04-13 Thread emilymaenot


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 salyavin, it looks like a good book and he looks like a serious thinker. 
Unless something extraordinary happens, I do think the whole kit and caboodle 
is gonna come crashing down. 
 

 "At least that's what I'm hoping (-:"

 

 Actually I wonder if a third world country would be the best place to be...
 

 On Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:29 AM, salyavin808  
wrote:
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that the US will go through a 
really difficult time and then return even stronger. But my guess is that it 
won't return in the form that it is now. I think there will be huge upheavals 
and many will go through transformations. So many that the current structures 
simply will fall away. At least that's what I'm hoping (-:
 

 Nah, we're all doomed:
 

 
http://www.policymic.com/articles/85541/nasa-study-concludes-when-civilization-will-end-and-it-s-not-looking-good-for-us
 
http://www.policymic.com/articles/85541/nasa-study-concludes-when-civilization-will-end-and-it-s-not-looking-good-for-us
 

 Actually Share, I know you like to read, this is a good and well researched 
book on the subject of our immanent demise:
 

 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Users-Guide-Crisis-Civilization-Save/dp/0745330533 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Users-Guide-Crisis-Civilization-Save/dp/0745330533

 

 The "how to save it part" at the end is a bit of a joke, tagged on to make 
anyone scared by the rest of it to think that someone in a position of power 
might one day do something anything about any of it. But they are all too busy 
feathering their nests and convincing the voters that letting the wealth 
accumulate at the top is the best way to make a fair society. 
 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008  
wrote:
 
   

 "They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce it's 
dominance over the whole world in a few short years."
 

 May God help us all.
 If you think capitalism will take a dip just to return even stronger than 
before please think again. It's understandable that the huge transformations 
that is coming is not yet grasped by most people who cling to the glamour of 
money and power.
 There will be no Age of Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or 
whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of this planet isn't 
completely restructured and gains a new foundation based on sharing and 
brotherhood. I doubt you are so foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance 
and injustice in the use and distribution of resources of this planet where 
thousands of children die every single day of hunger can go on indefinitely.
 When Maharishi said capitalism will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't 
go into the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has indicated that the 
new system of economics that will replace the current financial system in the 
aftermath of the huge coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much worse than 
1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic systems practiced in northern 
Europe. And yes, it definitely incorporates some degree of socialism which will 
secure food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where you live on this 
planet. You might find it useful to get used to the idea. 
 

 "Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism"
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 Im not a fan of American style capitalism but the reality is the United States 
is going to adapt and come out stronger than ever within a short time. When it 
comes to the current excesses, even the Republicans will come to realize what 
reforms they have to make in order to continue to thrive. 
NYC is Invincible, it is really the financial capital of the US economic system 
and in not too long America will be truly Invincible. They will be no long term 
decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance over the whole world in 
a few short years.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar


On 4/13/2014 12:12 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Perhaps the TMO can take credit for our not having to endure what 
would have been /Romney's/ policies.

>
Perhaps the TMO is to blame for us not having an effective foreign 
policy. Maybe we could have better prepared for our greatest threat, 
Russia, with a Romney policy. It might be better to have a Romney 
policy, rather than to have no foreign policy at all. Go figure.


'Ukraine places blames for eastern unrest on Russia'
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/13/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/


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On 4/13/2014 11:55 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> Oh, really? And that is your view of Obama? I remind you that when 
> Obama was elected there was a huge celebration in the Domes in 
> Fairfield with the TMO taking credit for his election due to yogic 
> flying. So that should mean that since he is in office the TMO can 
> take credit for his policies too, eh?
 >
Never pass up a tragedy in order to win a political debate. It's all 
about winning.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread authfriend

Perhaps the TMO can take credit for our not having to endure what would have 
been Romney's policies. 

 

 

 

 Oh, really? And that is your view of Obama? I remind you that when Obama was 
elected there was a huge celebration in the Domes in Fairfield with the TMO 
taking credit for his election due to yogic flying. So that should mean that 
since he is in office the TMO can take credit for his policies too, eh? 

 On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade 
from Dollar
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 4:24 PM

 Perhaps you resent it but the Nordic
 countries have the strongest economies on this planet.
 Saying it "doesn't work very well"
 shows you unfortunately have no clue, or probably no
 interest in finding out. And you are mixing up Northern
 Europe with European economics in general which
 doesn't bid very well for a meaningful discussion.
 And are Northern European economy "not vastly
 different from North American ones" ?You could
 start by taxing the Americans at least 40% in direct taxes +
 huge indirect taxes on anything from gasoline (In Denmark
 they pay 10$ pr gallon)  to food and distribute
 that wealth for common good as free healthcare for all, 1
 year maternity leave with 100% salary for the mother, 4
 months for the father, 1 year payment of 80% of your income
 if you're laid off work and give the rest to those
 who for different reasons can't work. THEN you can start
 comparing the systems.
 I certainly wish Obama good luck. But his programs
 are too little and too late when almost 50 million Americans
 go hungry, the number of people in jails the highest of
 any developed country and they have
 the highest infant mortality rate of any
 western country. 
 Perhaps he is obstructing change less than previous
 Presidents but I'm afraid Obama will be remembered
 as a wonderful speaker and not much else. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
  wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

 wrote :
 
 Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that
 the US will go through a really difficult time and then
 return even stronger. But my guess is that it won't
 return in the form that it is now. I think there will be
 huge upheavals and many will go through transformations. So
 many that the current structures simply will fall away. At
 least that's what I'm hoping (-:
 
 On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
  
 "They will be no long term
 decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance
 over the whole world in a few short years."
 May God help us all.If you think capitalism will
 take a dip just to return even stronger than before please
 think again. It's understandable that the huge
 transformations that is coming is not yet grasped by most
 people who cling to the glamour of money and
 power.There will be no Age of
 Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or
 whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of
 this planet isn't completely restructured and gains a
 new foundation based on sharing and brotherhood. I
 doubt you are so
 foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance and
 injustice in the use and distribution of resources of
 this planet where thousands of children die every single day
 of hunger can go on indefinitely.
 Chicken or
 the egg again. I think the only way the world could be
 restructured consciously and on purpose (as opposed to this
 happening as a result of natural upheaval based on all sorts
 of other forces) would be if people were to suddenly have
 their eyes and hearts and minds open to come to truly
 respect and love others of their species. This isn't
 just going to happen because we change our economic
 structure. We can't change our economic situation until
 our viewpoints and world views change. And what is going to
 bring that about en masse?
 When Maharishi said capitalism
 will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't go into
 the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has
 indicated that the new system of economics that will replace
 the current financial system in the aftermath of the huge
 coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much
 worse than 1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic
 systems practiced in northern Europe.
 Well that
 is not working so well either. I would hardly call European
 "economic systems" vastly different from North
 American ones.
  And yes, it definitely
 incorporates some degree of socialism which will secure
 food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where
 you live on this plan

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

The meditators were obviously relieved they didn't get another trigger-happy 
President
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh, really? And that is your view of Obama? I remind you that when Obama was 
elected there was a huge celebration in the Domes in Fairfield with the TMO 
taking credit for his election due to yogic flying. So that should mean that 
since he is in office the TMO can take credit for his policies too, eh?
 
 On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade 
from Dollar
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 4:24 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Perhaps you resent it but the Nordic
 countries have the strongest economies on this planet.
 Saying it "doesn't work very well"
 shows you unfortunately have no clue, or probably no
 interest in finding out. And you are mixing up Northern
 Europe with European economics in general which
 doesn't bid very well for a meaningful discussion.
 And are Northern European economy "not vastly
 different from North American ones" ?You could
 start by taxing the Americans at least 40% in direct taxes +
 huge indirect taxes on anything from gasoline (In Denmark
 they pay 10$ pr gallon)  to food and distribute
 that wealth for common good as free healthcare for all, 1
 year maternity leave with 100% salary for the mother, 4
 months for the father, 1 year payment of 80% of your income
 if you're laid off work and give the rest to those
 who for different reasons can't work. THEN you can start
 comparing the systems.
 I certainly wish Obama good luck. But his programs
 are too little and too late when almost 50 million Americans
 go hungry, the number of people in jails the highest of
 any developed country and they have
 the highest infant mortality rate of any
 western country. 
 Perhaps he is obstructing change less than previous
 Presidents but I'm afraid Obama will be remembered
 as a wonderful speaker and not much else. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
  wrote :
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

 wrote :
 
 Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that
 the US will go through a really difficult time and then
 return even stronger. But my guess is that it won't
 return in the form that it is now. I think there will be
 huge upheavals and many will go through transformations. So
 many that the current structures simply will fall away. At
 least that's what I'm hoping (-:
 
 On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008
 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
  
 "They will be no long term
 decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance
 over the whole world in a few short years."
 May God help us all.If you think capitalism will
 take a dip just to return even stronger than before please
 think again. It's understandable that the huge
 transformations that is coming is not yet grasped by most
 people who cling to the glamour of money and
 power.There will be no Age of
 Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or
 whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of
 this planet isn't completely restructured and gains a
 new foundation based on sharing and brotherhood. I
 doubt you are so
 foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance and
 injustice in the use and distribution of resources of
 this planet where thousands of children die every single day
 of hunger can go on indefinitely.
 Chicken or
 the egg again. I think the only way the world could be
 restructured consciously and on purpose (as opposed to this
 happening as a result of natural upheaval based on all sorts
 of other forces) would be if people were to suddenly have
 their eyes and hearts and minds open to come to truly
 respect and love others of their species. This isn't
 just going to happen because we change our economic
 structure. We can't change our economic situation until
 our viewpoints and world views change. And what is going to
 bring that about en masse?
 When Maharishi said capitalism
 will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't go into
 the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has
 indicated that the new system of economics that will replace
 the current financial system in the aftermath of the huge
 coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much
 worse than 1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic
 systems practiced in northern Europe.
 Well that
 is not working so well either. I would hardly call European
 "economic systems" vastly different from North
 American ones.
  And yes, it definitely
 incorporates some degree of socialism which will secure
 food

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Jackson

Oh, really? And that is your view of Obama? I remind you that when Obama was 
elected there was a huge celebration in the Domes in Fairfield with the TMO 
taking credit for his election due to yogic flying. So that should mean that 
since he is in office the TMO can take credit for his policies too, eh?

On Sun, 4/13/14, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade 
from Dollar
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, April 13, 2014, 4:24 PM

   Perhaps you resent it but the Nordic
 countries have the strongest economies on this planet.
 Saying it "doesn't work very well"
 shows you unfortunately have no clue, or probably no
 interest in finding out. And you are mixing up Northern
 Europe with European economics in general which
 doesn't bid very well for a meaningful discussion.
 And are Northern European economy "not vastly
 different from North American ones" ?You could
 start by taxing the Americans at least 40% in direct taxes +
 huge indirect taxes on anything from gasoline (In Denmark
 they pay 10$ pr gallon)  to food and distribute
 that wealth for common good as free healthcare for all, 1
 year maternity leave with 100% salary for the mother, 4
 months for the father, 1 year payment of 80% of your income
 if you're laid off work and give the rest to those
 who for different reasons can't work. THEN you can start
 comparing the systems.
 I certainly wish Obama good luck. But his programs
 are too little and too late when almost 50 million Americans
 go hungry, the number of people in jails the highest of
 any developed country and they have
 the highest infant mortality rate of any
 western country. 
 Perhaps he is obstructing change less than previous
 Presidents but I'm afraid Obama will be remembered
 as a wonderful speaker and not much else. 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that
 the US will go through a really difficult time and then
 return even stronger. But my guess is that it won't
 return in the form that it is now. I think there will be
 huge upheavals and many will go through transformations. So
 many that the current structures simply will fall away. At
 least that's what I'm hoping (-:

   On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008
  wrote:

 "They will be no long term
 decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance
 over the whole world in a few short years."
 May God help us all.If you think capitalism will
 take a dip just to return even stronger than before please
 think again. It's understandable that the huge
 transformations that is coming is not yet grasped by most
 people who cling to the glamour of money and
 power.There will be no Age of
 Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or
 whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of
 this planet isn't completely restructured and gains a
 new foundation based on sharing and brotherhood. I
 doubt you are so
 foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance and
 injustice in the use and distribution of resources of
 this planet where thousands of children die every single day
 of hunger can go on indefinitely.
 Chicken or
 the egg again. I think the only way the world could be
 restructured consciously and on purpose (as opposed to this
 happening as a result of natural upheaval based on all sorts
 of other forces) would be if people were to suddenly have
 their eyes and hearts and minds open to come to truly
 respect and love others of their species. This isn't
 just going to happen because we change our economic
 structure. We can't change our economic situation until
 our viewpoints and world views change. And what is going to
 bring that about en masse?
 When Maharishi said capitalism
 will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't go into
 the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has
 indicated that the new system of economics that will replace
 the current financial system in the aftermath of the huge
 coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much
 worse than 1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic
 systems practiced in northern Europe.
 Well that
 is not working so well either. I would hardly call European
 "economic systems" vastly different from North
 American ones.
  And yes, it definitely
 incorporates some degree of socialism which will secure
 food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where
 you live on this planet. You might find it
 useful to get used to the idea. 
 Obamacare,
 welfare and all other social programs already in place or
 being implemented as we speak. Hardly revolutionary or
 transformative.
 "Now that communism is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

0 Attachment 
 

 

 


 Perhaps you resent it but the Nordic countries have the strongest economies on 
this planet.
 Saying it "doesn't work very well" shows you unfortunately have no clue, or 
probably no interest in finding out. And you are mixing up Northern Europe with 
European economics in general which doesn't bid very well for a meaningful 
discussion.
 And are Northern European economy "not vastly different from North American 
ones" ?
 You could start by taxing the Americans at least 40% in direct taxes + huge 
indirect taxes on anything from gasoline (In Denmark they pay 10$ pr gallon)  
to food and distribute that wealth for common good as free healthcare for all, 
1 year maternity leave with 100% salary for the mother, 4 months for the 
father, 1 year payment of 80% of your income if you're laid off work and give 
the rest to those who for different reasons can't work. THEN you can start 
comparing the systems.
 

 I certainly wish Obama good luck. But his programs are too little and too late 
when almost 50 million Americans go hungry, the number of people in jails the 
highest of any developed country and they have the highest infant mortality 
rate of any western country. 
 

 Perhaps he is obstructing change less than previous Presidents but I'm afraid 
Obama will be remembered as a wonderful speaker and not much else. 
 

 I've sent this message before but perhaps it was ditched by the "new internet 
bug"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

Perhaps you resent it but the Nordic countries have the strongest economies on 
this planet. 
 Saying it "doesn't work very well" shows you unfortunately have no clue, or 
probably no interest in finding out. And you are mixing up Northern Europe with 
European economics in general which doesn't bid very well for a meaningful 
discussion. 
 And are Northern European economy "not vastly different from North American 
ones" ?
 You could start by taxing the Americans at least 40% in direct taxes + huge 
indirect taxes on anything from gasoline (In Denmark they pay 10$ pr gallon)  
to food and distribute that wealth for common good as free healthcare for all, 
1 year maternity leave with 100% salary for the mother, 4 months for the 
father, 1 year payment of 80% of your income if you're laid off work and give 
the rest to those who for different reasons can't work. THEN you can start 
comparing the systems.
 

 I certainly wish Obama good luck. But his programs are too little and too late 
when almost 50 million Americans go hungry, the number of people in jails the 
highest of any developed country and they have the highest infant mortality 
rate of any western country. 
 

 Perhaps he is obstructing change less than previous Presidents but I'm afraid 
Obama will be remembered as a wonderful speaker and not much else. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that the US will go through a 
really difficult time and then return even stronger. But my guess is that it 
won't return in the form that it is now. I think there will be huge upheavals 
and many will go through transformations. So many that the current structures 
simply will fall away. At least that's what I'm hoping (-:
 

 On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008  
wrote:
 
   

 "They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce it's 
dominance over the whole world in a few short years."
 

 May God help us all.
 If you think capitalism will take a dip just to return even stronger than 
before please think again. It's understandable that the huge transformations 
that is coming is not yet grasped by most people who cling to the glamour of 
money and power.
 There will be no Age of Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or 
whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of this planet isn't 
completely restructured and gains a new foundation based on sharing and 
brotherhood. I doubt you are so foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance 
and injustice in the use and distribution of resources of this planet where 
thousands of children die every single day of hunger can go on indefinitely.
 

 Chicken or the egg again. I think the only way the world could be restructured 
consciously and on purpose (as opposed to this happening as a result of natural 
upheaval based on all sorts of other forces) would be if people were to 
suddenly have their eyes and hearts and minds open to come to truly respect and 
love others of their species. This isn't just going to happen because we change 
our economic structure. We can't change our economic situation until our 
viewpoints and world views change. And what is going to bring that about en 
masse?
 

 When Maharishi said capitalism will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't 
go into the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has indicated that the 
new system of economics that will replace the current financial system in the 
aftermath of the huge coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much worse than 
1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic systems practiced in northern 
Europe.
 

 Well that is not working so well either. I would hardly call European 
"economic systems" vastly different from North American ones.
 

  And yes, it definitely incorporates some degree of socialism which will 
secure food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where you live on this 
planet. You might find it useful to get used to the idea. 
 

 Obamacare, welfare and all other social programs already in place or being 
implemented as we speak. Hardly revolutionary or transformative.
 

 "Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism"
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 Im not a fan of American style capitalism but the reality is the United States 
is going to adapt and come out stronger than ever within a short time. When it 
comes to the current excesses, even the Republicans will come to realize what 
reforms they have to make in order to continue to thrive. 
NYC is Invincible, it is really the financial capital of the US economic system 
and in not too long America will be truly Invincible. They will be no long term 
decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance over the whole world in 
a few short years.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

One of my visions is of vacant Walmarts which are taken over by the 
local communities and turned into bazaars for local folks to sell 
wares.  Gerald Celente seems to think this is a possibility too.  Around 
here I think the locals would run any thugs out of the area, so maybe no 
"Road Warrior" scenario.  If we hadn't bailed out the banks in 2008 we'd 
already be living it and be doing fine.


On 04/13/2014 07:56 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
The theory here is, because the United States currency is heavily 
based on debt, once the the psychology of the US Dollar being a 
standard currency is broken, there will be heavy selling of the US 
Dollar as its true value equalises with the other currencies, and 
hyperinflation will result, interest rates will rise, the US 
government if it can sell more treasuries and bonds will have to pay 
much higher interest rates, further pushing the US into debt, a 
vicious cycle of doom. The worst case scenario is collapse of the 
economy, as Bhairitu mentioned, with a 'Road Warrior' scenario, 
paramilitary groups and warlords roaming the devastated country.


Since no country seems to be on a gold standard any more, how serious 
this can be depends on how the other currencies stabilise against the 
US Dollar.


As one economic advisor puts it:

'Economic reality versus illusion: There will be no recovery, just 
plunge, stagnation and renewed plunge, re-intensifying the downturn 
already underway. The confluence of negative surprises, including new 
business and systemic woes, should hit US Dollar and spike inflation 
with hyperinflation to intensify the unfolding of a depression.'


http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/US_dollar_purchasing_power_vs_gold_1774-2012.gif

If you follow the news, and the news reports heavy selling of the US 
Dollar by other countries and investors in general, this is probably 
how the scenario will begin to play out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread anartaxius

Sure, that is part of the scenario, attempting to dump increasingly worthless
securities based on the US Dollar. Until the security comes due, the lender
(e.g., Japan) can only get rid of the securities by selling them on the open
market. The U.S. would probably not have the resources to call the bond back
and return the money in now less valuable dollars, since in order to create the
dollars they would have to sell more bonds, or just print money without
anything to back it. To sell increasingly risky securities, the interest would
have to rise substantially, and existing securities will then drop in value,
resulting in more dumping. If you plot existing US employment, Gross Domestic
Product etc., against real inflation, which is much higher than the rigged
government indicators, the US economy is currently stagnant, basically still in
a recession, so it is likely downhill from here. The US has spent itself into
quite a financial hole, and the things that got by in the past are no longer
going to work.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Thanks. You forgot to mention one very important scenario: what happens if
some of the countries who have been buying American governmental bonds wants to
cash in, would the US be able to pay ? Japan is and has been technically
bankrupt for many years BUT they have trillions of $ in bonds issued by the
American Government. What if they wanted to sell ? The crisis that would happen
would plunge the world into a historic crisis, one which the Americans can't
blame their banksters but their Government that borrowed all that money in the
first place to use for unnecessary wars.
It's interesting to note that Benjamin Crème predicted that a collapse of the
stock-marked in Japan will start the global economic crisis.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

The theory here is, because the United States currency is heavily based on
debt, once the the psychology of the US Dollar being a standard currency is
broken, there will be heavy selling of the US Dollar as its true value
equalises with the other currencies, and hyperinflation will result, interest
rates will rise, the US government if it can sell more treasuries and bonds
will have to pay much higher interest rates, further pushing the US into debt,
a vicious cycle of doom. The worst case scenario is collapse of the economy, as
Bhairitu mentioned, with a 'Road Warrior' scenario, paramilitary groups and
warlords roaming the devastated country.

Since no country seems to be on a gold standard any more, how serious this can
be depends on how the other currencies stabilise against the US Dollar.

As one economic advisor puts it:

'Economic reality versus illusion: There will be no recovery, just plunge,
stagnation and renewed plunge, re-intensifying the downturn already underway.
The confluence of negative surprises, including new business and systemic woes,
should hit US Dollar and spike inflation with hyperinflation to intensify the
unfolding of a depression.'

http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/US_dollar_purchasing_power_vs_gold_1774-2012.gif

If you follow the news, and the news reports heavy selling of the US Dollar by
other countries and investors in general, this is probably how the scenario
will begin to play out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

Thanks. You forgot to mention one very important scenario: what happens if some 
of the countries who have been buying American governmental bonds wants to cash 
in, would the US be able to pay ? Japan is and has been technically bankrupt 
for many years BUT they have trillions of $ in bonds issued by the American 
Government. What if they wanted to sell ? The crisis that would happen would 
plunge the world into a historic crisis, one which the Americans can't blame 
their banksters but their Government that borrowed all that money in the first 
place to use for unnecessary wars. 
 It's interesting to note that Benjamin Crème predicted that a collapse of the 
stock-marked in Japan will start the global economic crisis.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The theory here is, because the United States currency is heavily based on 
debt, once the the psychology of the US Dollar being a standard currency is 
broken, there will be heavy selling of the US Dollar as its true value 
equalises with the other currencies, and hyperinflation will result, interest 
rates will rise, the US government if it can sell more treasuries and bonds 
will have to pay much higher interest rates, further pushing the US into debt, 
a vicious cycle of doom. The worst case scenario is collapse of the economy, as 
Bhairitu mentioned, with a 'Road Warrior' scenario, paramilitary groups and 
warlords roaming the devastated country.
 

 Since no country seems to be on a gold standard any more, how serious this can 
be depends on how the other currencies stabilise against the US Dollar.
 

 As one economic advisor puts it:
 

 'Economic reality versus illusion: There will be no recovery, just plunge, 
stagnation and renewed plunge, re-intensifying the downturn already underway. 
The confluence of negative surprises, including new business and systemic woes, 
should hit US Dollar and spike inflation with hyperinflation to intensify the 
unfolding of a depression.'
 

 
http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/US_dollar_purchasing_power_vs_gold_1774-2012.gif
 
http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/US_dollar_purchasing_power_vs_gold_1774-2012.gif

 

 If you follow the news, and the news reports heavy selling of the US Dollar by 
other countries and investors in general, this is probably how the scenario 
will begin to play out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread anartaxius

The theory here is, because the United States currency is heavily based on 
debt, once the the psychology of the US Dollar being a standard currency is 
broken, there will be heavy selling of the US Dollar as its true value 
equalises with the other currencies, and hyperinflation will result, interest 
rates will rise, the US government if it can sell more treasuries and bonds 
will have to pay much higher interest rates, further pushing the US into debt, 
a vicious cycle of doom. The worst case scenario is collapse of the economy, as 
Bhairitu mentioned, with a 'Road Warrior' scenario, paramilitary groups and 
warlords roaming the devastated country.
 

 Since no country seems to be on a gold standard any more, how serious this can 
be depends on how the other currencies stabilise against the US Dollar.
 

 As one economic advisor puts it:
 

 'Economic reality versus illusion: There will be no recovery, just plunge, 
stagnation and renewed plunge, re-intensifying the downturn already underway. 
The confluence of negative surprises, including new business and systemic woes, 
should hit US Dollar and spike inflation with hyperinflation to intensify the 
unfolding of a depression.'
 

 
http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/US_dollar_purchasing_power_vs_gold_1774-2012.gif
 
http://goldsilverworlds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/US_dollar_purchasing_power_vs_gold_1774-2012.gif

 

 If you follow the news, and the news reports heavy selling of the US Dollar by 
other countries and investors in general, this is probably how the scenario 
will begin to play out.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread Share Long

salyavin, it looks like a good book and he looks like a serious thinker. Unless 
something extraordinary happens, I do think the whole kit and caboodle is gonna 
come crashing down. Actually I wonder if a third world country would be the 
best place to be...


On Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:29 AM, salyavin808  wrote:
 
  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that the US will go through a really 
difficult time and then return even stronger. But my guess is that it won't 
return in the form that it is now. I think there will be huge upheavals and 
many will go through transformations. So many that the current structures 
simply will fall away. At least that's what I'm hoping (-:

Nah, we're all doomed:

http://www.policymic.com/articles/85541/nasa-study-concludes-when-civilization-will-end-and-it-s-not-looking-good-for-us

Actually Share, I know you like to read, this is a good and well researched 
book on the subject of our immanent demise:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Users-Guide-Crisis-Civilization-Save/dp/0745330533


The "how to save it part" at the end is a bit of a joke, tagged on to make 
anyone scared by the rest of it to think that someone in a position of power 
might one day do something anything about any of it. But they are all too busy 
feathering their nests and convincing the voters that letting the wealth 
accumulate at the top is the best way to make a fair society. 








On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008  
wrote:

 


"They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce it's 
dominance over the whole world in a few short years."

May God help us all.
If you think capitalism will take a dip just to return even stronger than 
before please think again. It's understandable that the huge transformations 
that is coming is not yet grasped by most people who cling to the glamour of 
money and power.
There will be no Age of Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or 
whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of this planet isn't 
completely restructured and gains a new foundation based on sharing and 
brotherhood. I doubt you are so
foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance and injustice in the use and 
distribution of resources of this planet where thousands of children die every 
single day of hunger can go on indefinitely.
When Maharishi said capitalism will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't 
go into the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has indicated that the 
new system of economics that will replace the current financial system in the 
aftermath of the huge coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much worse than 
1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic systems practiced in northern 
Europe. And yes, it definitely incorporates some degree of socialism which will 
secure food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where you live on this 
planet. You might find it useful to get used to the idea. 

"Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism"
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Im not a fan of American style capitalism but the reality is the United States 
is going to adapt and come out stronger than ever within a short time. When it 
comes to the current excesses, even the Republicans will come to realize what 
reforms they have to make in order to continue to thrive. 
NYC is Invincible, it is really the financial capital of the US economic system 
and in not too long America will be truly Invincible. They will be no long term 
decline,
the United States will enforce it's dominance over the whole world in a few 
short years.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that the US will go through a 
really difficult time and then return even stronger. But my guess is that it 
won't return in the form that it is now. I think there will be huge upheavals 
and many will go through transformations. So many that the current structures 
simply will fall away. At least that's what I'm hoping (-:
 

 On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008  
wrote:
 
   

 "They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce it's 
dominance over the whole world in a few short years."
 

 May God help us all.
 If you think capitalism will take a dip just to return even stronger than 
before please think again. It's understandable that the huge transformations 
that is coming is not yet grasped by most people who cling to the glamour of 
money and power.
 There will be no Age of Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or 
whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of this planet isn't 
completely restructured and gains a new foundation based on sharing and 
brotherhood. I doubt you are so foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance 
and injustice in the use and distribution of resources of this planet where 
thousands of children die every single day of hunger can go on indefinitely.
 

 Chicken or the egg again. I think the only way the world could be restructured 
consciously and on purpose (as opposed to this happening as a result of natural 
upheaval based on all sorts of other forces) would be if people were to 
suddenly have their eyes and hearts and minds open to come to truly respect and 
love others of their species. This isn't just going to happen because we change 
our economic structure. We can't change our economic situation until our 
viewpoints and world views change. And what is going to bring that about en 
masse?
 

 When Maharishi said capitalism will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't 
go into the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has indicated that the 
new system of economics that will replace the current financial system in the 
aftermath of the huge coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much worse than 
1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic systems practiced in northern 
Europe.
 

 Well that is not working so well either. I would hardly call European 
"economic systems" vastly different from North American ones.
 

  And yes, it definitely incorporates some degree of socialism which will 
secure food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where you live on this 
planet. You might find it useful to get used to the idea. 
 

 Obamacare, welfare and all other social programs already in place or being 
implemented as we speak. Hardly revolutionary or transformative.
 

 "Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism"
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 Im not a fan of American style capitalism but the reality is the United States 
is going to adapt and come out stronger than ever within a short time. When it 
comes to the current excesses, even the Republicans will come to realize what 
reforms they have to make in order to continue to thrive. 
NYC is Invincible, it is really the financial capital of the US economic system 
and in not too long America will be truly Invincible. They will be no long term 
decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance over the whole world in 
a few short years.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

Reactionary forces are very busy trying to stop the inevitable but they are 
doomed. They can play their game only as long as the peoples allow their show 
to go on.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I love social democracy but the world does not conform to our expectations or 
hopes. I think what is being argued is that even Republicans will come to 
understand the need for greater income equality through progressive taxation 
but they will still have their preference for small government so America may 
never be the social democracy we would like it to be.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that the US will go through a 
really difficult time and then return even stronger. But my guess is that it 
won't return in the form that it is now. I think there will be huge upheavals 
and many will go through transformations. So many that the current structures 
simply will fall away. At least that's what I'm hoping (-:
 

 Nah, we're all doomed:
 

 
http://www.policymic.com/articles/85541/nasa-study-concludes-when-civilization-will-end-and-it-s-not-looking-good-for-us
 
http://www.policymic.com/articles/85541/nasa-study-concludes-when-civilization-will-end-and-it-s-not-looking-good-for-us
 

 Actually Share, I know you like to read, this is a good and well researched 
book on the subject of our immanent demise:
 

 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Users-Guide-Crisis-Civilization-Save/dp/0745330533 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Users-Guide-Crisis-Civilization-Save/dp/0745330533

 

 The "how to save it part" at the end is a bit of a joke, tagged on to make 
anyone scared by the rest of it to think that someone in a position of power 
might one day do something anything about any of it. But they are all too busy 
feathering their nests and convincing the voters that letting the wealth 
accumulate at the top is the best way to make a fair society. 
 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008  
wrote:
 
   

 "They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce it's 
dominance over the whole world in a few short years."
 

 May God help us all.
 If you think capitalism will take a dip just to return even stronger than 
before please think again. It's understandable that the huge transformations 
that is coming is not yet grasped by most people who cling to the glamour of 
money and power.
 There will be no Age of Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or 
whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of this planet isn't 
completely restructured and gains a new foundation based on sharing and 
brotherhood. I doubt you are so foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance 
and injustice in the use and distribution of resources of this planet where 
thousands of children die every single day of hunger can go on indefinitely.
 When Maharishi said capitalism will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't 
go into the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has indicated that the 
new system of economics that will replace the current financial system in the 
aftermath of the huge coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much worse than 
1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic systems practiced in northern 
Europe. And yes, it definitely incorporates some degree of socialism which will 
secure food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where you live on this 
planet. You might find it useful to get used to the idea. 
 

 "Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism"
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 Im not a fan of American style capitalism but the reality is the United States 
is going to adapt and come out stronger than ever within a short time. When it 
comes to the current excesses, even the Republicans will come to realize what 
reforms they have to make in order to continue to thrive. 
NYC is Invincible, it is really the financial capital of the US economic system 
and in not too long America will be truly Invincible. They will be no long term 
decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance over the whole world in 
a few short years.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread srijau

I love social democracy but the world does not conform to our expectations or 
hopes. I think what is being argued is that even Republicans will come to 
understand the need for greater income equality through progressive taxation 
but they will still have their preference for small government so America may 
never be the social democracy we would like it to be.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar

2014-04-13 Thread Share Long

Nablusoss, I've also heard some prediction that the US will go through a really 
difficult time and then return even stronger. But my guess is that it won't 
return in the form that it is now. I think there will be huge upheavals and 
many will go through transformations. So many that the current structures 
simply will fall away. At least that's what I'm hoping (-:


On Sunday, April 13, 2014 6:35 AM, nablusoss1008  
wrote:
 
  


"They will be no long term decline, the United States will enforce it's 
dominance over the whole world in a few short years."

May God help us all. 
If you think capitalism will take a dip just to return even stronger than 
before please think again. It's understandable that the huge transformations 
that is coming is not yet grasped by most people who cling to the glamour of 
money and power. 
There will be no Age of Enlightenment, Golden Age, Age of Aquarius, New Age or 
whatever you wish to call it if the economic structures of this planet isn't 
completely restructured and gains a new foundation based on sharing and 
brotherhood. I doubt you are so foolish as to believe that the gross unbalance 
and injustice in the use and distribution of resources of this planet where 
thousands of children die every single day of hunger can go on indefinitely. 
When Maharishi said capitalism will go he meant it will be replaced but didn't 
go into the details of what that will be. Benjamin Crème has indicated that the 
new system of economics that will replace the current financial system in the 
aftermath of the huge coming crisis (forget 1987 or 2008 think much worse than 
1929) will be modeled along the social-democratic systems practiced in northern 
Europe. And yes, it definitely incorporates some degree of socialism which will 
secure food, medical care and shelter for all no matter where you live on this 
planet. You might find it useful to get used to the idea. 

"Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism"
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Im not a fan of American style capitalism but the reality is the United States 
is going to adapt and come out stronger than ever within a short time. When it 
comes to the current excesses, even the Republicans will come to realize what 
reforms they have to make in order to continue to thrive. 
NYC is Invincible, it is really the financial capital of the US economic system 
and in not too long America will be truly Invincible. They will be no long term 
decline, the United States will enforce it's dominance over the whole world in 
a few short years.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia and China announce decoupling trade from Dollar