Vaj:
You seem to have missed the salient point here
Lawson...
You seem to have missed the salient point here, Vaj.
MMY got the TM bija mantras came from Guru Dev, who
was a member of the Dasanami Order of the Saraswati
Dandi sannyasins, founded by the Adi Shankara. Guru
Dev's
On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
Me thinks someone needs to read a bit more. THere were
two claimants to Jyotirmath after Gurudev died: his
nephew, named in Gurudev's will and a guy hand-picked
by the conclave of punduts scholars and priests who
had
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:
So Willy why haven't we gotten this information
from the TMorg?
Vaj:
Because Willy is distorting the Transcendental
Meditation tradition by making up fantasies.
You are mistaken: the primary
Could it be that I am getting old and my memory is failing
me? You certainly sounded like you're justifing it.
--beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal,
or appropriate
There's also the Crazy Wisdom tradition, as you most
likely know; and the Advahuts zarzari talks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
This is interesting. You actually justified Ravi's
cranky behaviour as 'crazy wisdom' and 'holy madness'.
I did no such thing.
Yes you did.
Man,
Because Willy is distorting the Transcendental
Meditation tradition by making up fantasies.
You are mistaken: the primary scripture of the
Sri Vidya Tradition is the 'Soundarya Lahari'
which was composed by the Adi Shankara.
iranitea:
Well, you should know that in all
Gurudev's nephew supported MMY.
Vaj:
You seem to have missed the salient point here
Lawson...
You seem to have missed the salient point here, Vaj.
MMY got the TM bija mantras came from Guru Dev, who
was a member of the Dasanami Order of the Saraswati
Dandi sannyasins, founded by the
The 'conclave picked guy' is the linear successor.
sparaig:
Not according to Gurudev's will.
Only the lineage of Vasudevananda (through Santananda)
can be traced directly to Brahmananda, without any
interruptions. - Vidyasankar Sundaresan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 9:32 PM, sparaig wrote:
You'll notice that MMY is NOT directly below Gurudev, but to the left and
he is standing, not sitting, like nearly everyone else is.
The original painting did NOT have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
Me thinks someone needs to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
This is interesting. You actually justified Ravi's
cranky behaviour as 'crazy wisdom'
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Could it be that I am getting old and my memory is failing
me? You certainly sounded like you're justifing it.
--beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal,
or appropriate
There's also the Crazy Wisdom tradition, as you most
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Could it be that I am getting old and my memory is failing
me? You certainly sounded like you're justifing it.
--beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
This is interesting. You actually justified Ravi's
cranky behaviour as 'crazy wisdom' and 'holy
--- Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
Could it be that I am getting old and my memory is failing
me? You certainly sounded like you're justifing it.
--beyond the bounds of what is expected, usual, normal,
or appropriate
There's also the Crazy Wisdom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
(Judy:)
And finally, to go back to the beginning, Ravi's
cranky behavor and iranitea's claim that my
expressing doubt about his notion of the TMO
increasing the number of mantras so as to obscure
and deceive the public
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
(Judy:)
And finally, to go back to the beginning, Ravi's
cranky behavor and iranitea's claim that my
expressing doubt about his notion of the TMO
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
snip
[I wrote:]
Ravi enjoyed taking crude potshots at people just
for the fun of it, to shock them.
Sometimes, your semantics does confuse me.
What confuses you about what I wrote?
Are you sure he was taking crude
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
This is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
Why is it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
--- In
On Jun 9, 2012, at 7:28 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Now, that is a classic answer. AVOID any answer, keep a back door open so
that nobody thinks you are in denial, give it a negative taint, so that TBB's
are not disappointed. Avoid the answers and quibble over
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
snip
The point is that there are teachers, who still teach in this
way, they are
This is interesting. You actually justified Ravi's cranky
behaviour as 'crazy wisdom' and 'holy madness'.
Where was your objectivity then?
--- authfriend jstein@... wrote:
You want to rethink your claim that you don't engage in
mind-reading?
Yes, I have a pro-TM bias, I've never
On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:53 AM, wgm4u wrote:
So Willy why haven't we gotten this information from the TMorg?
Because Willy is distorting the Transcendental Meditation tradition by making
up fantasies.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:53 AM, wgm4u wrote:
So Willy why haven't we gotten this information from the TMorg?
Because Willy is distorting the Transcendental Meditation
tradition by making up fantasies.
For what should be
On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
iranitea:
Even though many TM teachers would subscribe
to such a view, as they believe, that the
power of the mantra comes through the holy
tradition and more specifically GD...
All the TM bija mantras come directly from GD
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote:
This is interesting. You actually justified Ravi's
cranky behaviour as 'crazy wisdom' and 'holy madness'.
I did no such thing. Man, can't anybody on this forum
*read English*??
In fact, I *castigated* him for his cranky
It’s been long known that Judy is a TM TB, but not a TMO TB in some matters.
Judy’s also a known dTMer, a practitioner of a discursive variant of actual TM.
This happens when TMers do take TM “to heart” but are so dogmatically
entrenched they cannot take it “to spirit”.
She also tried to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 7:28 AM, iranitea wrote:
The bija mantra isn't a Sanskrit word.
It is, it is a Sanskrit letter, it is intricately connected with the way
Sanskrit letters are written.
Itâs both a Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
snip
She also tried to cuddle up to Robin Woodsworth Carlsen, who
considered her a demonic TMer.
Actually Vaj made the mistake of thinking a playfully
ironic exchange between me and Robin was dead serious.
Most others here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
iranitea:
Even though many TM teachers would subscribe
to such a view, as they believe, that the
power of the mantra comes through the holy
tradition and
On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Robert wrote:
To say there is 'no lineal succession' between Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and
Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, is simply and utterly ridiculous!~
As you are well aware, Maharishi was with Guru Dev, straight out of college,
and remained with him until his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Robert wrote:
To say there is 'no lineal succession' between Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and
Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, is simply and utterly ridiculous!~
As you are well aware, Maharishi was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
Me thinks someone needs to read a bit more. THere were two claimants to
Jyotirmath after Gurudev died: his nephew, named in Gurudev's will and a
guy hand-picked by the
wgm4u:
So Willy why haven't we gotten this information
from the TMorg?
You'd have to ask them, I guess, but the facts are
the facts. Where do you think MMY got the TM bija
mantras? Didn't he say he got all his teaching
from his master, GD?
All the Saraswati sanyasins meditate on the bija
of
So Willy why haven't we gotten this information
from the TMorg?
Vaj:
Because Willy is distorting the Transcendental
Meditation tradition by making up fantasies.
You are mistaken: the primary scripture of the
Sri Vidya Tradition is the 'Soundarya Lahari'
which was composed by the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
Me thinks someone needs to read a bit more. THere were two claimants to
Jyotirmath after Gurudev died: his nephew, named in Gurudev's will and a
guy hand-picked by the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
Here's a question for you -- if I (trained as a
TM teacher by Maharishi) were to teach someone
to meditate and teach them according to the exact
instructions he told me to impart to students,
but changed only one thing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
Barry's lying. I responded to that question. The
response included pointing out that the question
itself was designed to mislead. The TMO charges
high fees in wealthy countries and low or no fees
in poor ones.
So, is India a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Here's a question for you -- if I (trained as a
TM teacher by Maharishi) were to teach someone
to meditate and teach them according to the exact
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Barry's lying. I responded to that question. The
response included pointing out that the question
itself was designed to mislead. The TMO charges
high
Why is it 'incorrect' if you say something wrong, deceptive but a
blatant lie if Barry does so?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Barry's lying. I responded to that question. The
response included pointing out that the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
Why is it 'incorrect' if you say something wrong, deceptive
but a blatant lie if Barry does so?
I don't say things with the intention to deceive, first
of all, although I may say something wrong inadvertently.
Second, not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
Barry's lying. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
So, is India a poor country or a wealthy one? Do you feel that
the following rates have been subsidised by the west?These
fees may not sound to be much if converting Rupees to Dollars,
but they still are a lot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
Why is it 'incorrect' if you say something wrong, deceptive
but a blatant lie if Barry does so?
I don't say things with the intention to deceive, first
of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
So, is India a poor country or a wealthy one? Do you feel that
the following rates have been subsidised by the west?These
fees may not sound to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote:
Why is it 'incorrect' if you say something wrong, deceptive
but a blatant lie if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
snip
If you leave rotten meat in the kitchen, the roaches will
come to feed.
Excellent insight. Although I might have given you
a
While I too never got certified as a checker, I DID take the notes. I have also
sat in on about a half-dozen 3 days checking classes with new meditators, so I
have a pretty good idea what goes on during the 3 days checking. I also took
the SCI class and I've peeked at some of the teacher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
While I too never got certified as a checker, I DID take
the notes.
Good for you. Then you know that it's your classic,
memorized expert system, designed to provide a
memorized answer we have already prepared to
the most
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
This is the part where Judy roars in and tells
us all how much of a liar I am and how much she
really knows about TM and what Maharishi was
really thinking when he said such-and-such.
Wait for it... :-)
HaHa, you are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
Nope, bogus analogy. Barry throws out the rotten meat
on FFL and then feeds on it himself. And you've joined
him for the disgusting meal.
Inexcusable.
I'm not the only one who has noticed that the Turq has become more
On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:06 AM, sparaig wrote:
While I too never got certified as a checker, I DID take the notes.
I have also sat in on about a half-dozen 3 days checking classes
with new meditators, so I have a pretty good idea what goes on
during the 3 days checking. I also took the SCI
On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:32 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
Here, on a.m.t., on Reddit, wherever, you have a history
of wanting to be perceived as somewhat of an expert or
an authority on TM. So does Judy. Neither of you are.
Bingo. But boy you'd think they were THE experts on the topic.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:06 AM, sparaig wrote:
While I too never got certified as a checker, I DID take the
notes.
I have also sat in on about a half-dozen 3 days checking classes
with new meditators, so I have a pretty
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote
[replying to turquoiseb]:
You a[re] an example that proves having been a teacher means nothing,
absolutely zero. You are one of those many fools who joined the Movement for
all the wrong reasons and went along for the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
While I too never got certified as a checker, I DID take
the notes.
Good for you. Then you know that it's your classic,
memorized expert system,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:06 AM, sparaig wrote:
snip
I CAN catch blatant BS, however.
That's a rather specious claim considering you're the hardest
core TM
disrespectful, at
the very least.
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
Barry Barry Barry - you stated your comments and opinions clearly at the front
end of this conversation re: why meditators are separated, checking and the
cost of TM. Judy stated her experience and understanding clearly as well
@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
Barry Barry Barry - you stated your comments and opinions clearly at the
front end of this conversation re: why meditators are separated, checking
On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:58 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
That's a rather specious claim considering you're the hardest
core TM TB here.
In Lawson's defense, I must disagree. I would confer
that honor upon JohnR.
I always got the feeling that John was part tongue in cheek - no one could be
.
From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
Barry Barry Barry - you stated your comments and opinions clearly
@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
I don't actually think that mid to low-income families benefit more from TM
than the above average-income families or the rich ? Â I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
p.s. Â don't give me the people value what they pay for platitude. Â That's
complete superficial BS in my book. Â People value their health, their
relationships, nature, etc. when it get down to the bottom line in
.
From: authfriendjst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 9:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
Emily, you simply cannot trust anything Barry says
about TM. He has no compunctions whatsoever about
-
- Original Message -
From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ON TM
I don't actually think that mid to low-income families
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Then again, the two TM parrots who have chimed in on
this
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Then again, the two TM parrots who have chimed in on
this (authfriend and sparaig) were never TM teachers.
They have *no idea* what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Then
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
Taking Barry to task for shortcomings in logic and history
is fine, but if you have strong reaction to this probing
of his, your own shortcomings are taking the bait. Barry
is like a guy who comes into the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@... wrote:
ON THIS BLOG,
THERE IS A REALLY USEFULL GREAT CLIP
JUST FROM A MEDITATOR ON TRANSCENDENTAL
MEDITATION ( TM )
ENJOY
) are exactly what I am
looking for. Mentions checking. What is checking, exactly?
From: cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote:
ON THIS BLOG,
THERE IS A REALLYÂ USEFULL GREAT CLIP
JUST FROM A MEDITATOR ON TRANSCENDENTAL
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote:
ON THIS BLOG,
THERE IS A REALLYÂ USEFULL GREAT CLIP
JUST FROM A MEDITATOR ON TRANSCENDENTAL
MEDITATIONÂ Â ( TM
, such as
mindfulness meditation.
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 9:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn
Back to my questionwhat is checking?
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, June 3, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
H. ÃÂ $1500 offends my sensibilities
Get a checking !
and my budget. ÃÂ OTOH, I just looked up NSR and read the info
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote:
ON THIS BLOG,
THERE IS A REALLYÂ USEFULL GREAT CLIP
JUST FROM A MEDITATOR ON TRANSCENDENTAL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
H. $1500 offends my sensibilities and my budget.
Until recently, it was $2500. What amazes me more is
that you've been here all these months
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
You must *not* read all my posts as I mentioned early on that I felt the cost
was not in line with the philosophy - i.e. if this is a technique being
promoted to solve the world's ills and help mankind, than it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
H. Â $1500 offends my sensibilities
Get a checking !
Not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
H. $1500 offends my sensibilities and my budget.
Until recently, it was $2500. What amazes me more is
that you've been here all these months
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
You must *not* read all my posts as I mentioned early on that I felt the
cost was not in line with the philosophy - i.e. if this is a
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: S U P E R BLOG/ CLIP ONTM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
You must *not* read all my posts as I
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I don't actually think that mid to low-income families benefit more from TM
than the above
?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlinvedamerlin@ wrote:
ON THIS BLOG
feel otherwise should probably address the con-
cerns I raise above in their replies. Doncha think?
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On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Emily Reyn wrote:
H. $1500 offends my sensibilities and my budget. OTOH, I just looked up
NSR and read the info on the website. Started by a TM meditator. Intriguing
really and $47.
And it used to be free on the various torrent sites.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote:
ON THIS BLOG,
THERE IS A REALLYÂ USEFULL
Eh, they tried the nominal fee thing, and few people continued for 40 years.
THey now teach TM for free in schools and prisons and halfway houses but the
setting is such that they are encouraged to be regular.
We'll see if the people who learned for free in a school setting continue to be
On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
The 7 Steps are there for indoctrination more than
anything else.
One thing found early on in independent TM research is that the mantra isn’t
providing the signature relaxation response seen in TM - it’s the
indoctrination and the expectation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
The 7 Steps are there for indoctrination more than
anything else.
One thing found early on in independent TM research is that the mantra
isnât providing the signature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
The BMs (Bliss Monkeys) will surely pile on and I see they
already have.
Well, no, you haven't seen that, Bhairitu. Nor has
Barry, poor old sod, been able to sit back and watch
the fireworks he so smugly predicted. You and he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
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And most here paid $35 to $75 to learn TM, but now
have no problem justifying $2500, as long as it's
other people who have to pay it.
When's the last time you saw a TMer here justifying
$2,500 to learn TM, Barry?
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