emptybill:
I already addressed this in a post about the
primal bijas of Rig-Veda, all pointed out by
Brahmarshi Daivarata.
You keep avoiding the question: Where do the TM
bija mantras come from?
If you don't know, just admit it. If you read them
in a book, say so. But, at least try to
into each kit. So there's no name attached to it. But it
takes about six weeks, typically.
From: richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2011 9:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras
On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:27 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote:
emptybill:
I already addressed this in a post about the
primal bijas of Rig-Veda, all pointed out by
Brahmarshi Daivarata.
You keep avoiding the question: Where do the TM
bija mantras come from?
He does not know. TM
I already addressed this in a post about the
primal bijas of Rig-Veda, all pointed out by
Brahmarshi Daivarata.
You keep avoiding the question: Where do the TM
bija mantras come from?
Vaj:
He does not know.
Well, Vaj and emptybill don't know, and if Rick Archer
and Dana
The origin of the bija mantra is not really mysterious.
They come from you, me and even WikiWillyGuptaGupta. They vibrate in the
human subtle nervous system and will erupt if evoked properly. It is
this experience which separates them from ordinary human speech
activity.
Willy doesn't believe
Apparently you only gave a cursory look at Sanderson's
Webpage. He has plenty of material demonstrating Buddhist
textual borrowing from Shaiva tantric texts...
Vaj:
In fact certain specific togal practices can be found
in later shaivite texts, after their bonpo originals...
What
Is there any sound which isn't 'made up'?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@...
wrote:
The truth is that most Buddhist mantras have origins in the
purana/tantra practice of India which is Hindu/Jain
in composition...
Most mantras from
Robert:
Is there any sound which isn't 'made up'?
A 'bija' mantra is whatever your guru says it is.
It could be a sound, a mental image, or a symbolic
device such as a yantra, or just a thought. In
deep meditation TMers only use non-semantic sounds
as simple mnemonic device for
Hi William:
On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:28 PM, emptybill wrote:
My reply:
Apparently you only gave a cursory look at Sanderson's Webpage. He
has plenty of material demonstrating Buddhist textual borrowing
from Shaiva tantric texts.
About 5 years ago or so, before Sanderson's page came up, a
On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:33 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote:
Apparently you only gave a cursory look at Sanderson's
Webpage. He has plenty of material demonstrating Buddhist
textual borrowing from Shaiva tantric texts...
Vaj:
In fact certain specific togal practices can be found
in
I know several yogis who use dream yoga as way to work on projects, often
textual, while they are sleeping.
Yeah? Well *I* know a guy who can make balloon animals while tap dancing in a
bunny suit.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:33 AM,
Buddhist literary borrowings from shaiva texts are quite clear. However
that does not invalidate the idea of a common yogic cultural sphere
which went both ways. Yogins often do not mind mixing dharmas since they
are concerned primarily with what works.
The Bon dharma appears to synthesize the
emptybill:
Go look up sphota and shabda brahman. Shabda is
more than the perishable sounds of human speech...
According to the Indian mythology 'mantra' is the
'primary sound of the universe', called 'Shabd' in
Sanskrit. In the Rig Veda Shabd is personified as
'Vac', the first primal
I already addressed this in a post about the primal bijas of Rig-Veda,
all pointed out by Brahmarshi Daivarata. You however are probably more
versed in chanting the riks than he was.
To bad for you since you can read but are unable to understand what you
read. Here it is again for you to forget
Hi William:
On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, emptybill wrote:
Buddhist literary borrowings from shaiva texts are quite clear. However that
does not invalidate the idea of a common yogic cultural sphere which went
both ways. Yogins often do not mind mixing dharmas since they are concerned
thx, interesting discussion. I sent the info on Brahmarshi Daivarata -
provided by Emptybill linked to Frawley; to Jerry.
...
Special bonus, the ENTELODONT - A giant, truly disgusting ancient pig-like
monster, rendered by Jerry Lofaro. Click onto the screen to get the next in
the series of
Vag:
These are Sanderson's theories. Interesting, yes, but just theories
Bill. Interesting from the POV of scholastic materialism. For
consciousness-based practitioners, not so much.
My reply:
There is no such thing as scholastic materialism. It is a b.s. label.
Some scholars are mere
The truth is that most Buddhist mantras have origins in the
purana/tantra practice of India which is Hindu/Jain
in composition...
Most mantras from the vajrayana paths were revealed - or
re-revealed if you prefer...
emptybill:
Alex Sanderson shows in his analysis of
On Nov 30, 2011, at 1:35 PM, emptybill wrote:
Me previously:
The truth is that most Buddhist mantras have origins in the purana/
tantra practice of India which is Hindu/Jain in composition.
Vag reply:
Incorrect. Most mantras from the vajrayana paths were revealed - or
re-revealed if you
Also depends upon one's purposes, if scholastic materialism, this ongoing set
of differences could be the basis of a PhD thesis. Chinese Sages might differ
with the notion that only Skt. is the language of the gods.
...
If one's purpose is chanting and gaining benefits, Chinese may be superior
thx,...agreed. Consider the inhabitans of Pandora - probably never heard of
Skt. Most of the mantras I chant are in Mandarin. This language is very
conducive to the chanting of mantras by virtue of an inbuilt articulation of
single syllable words. When strung together and chanted rapidly, the
(BTW-Stop hijacking this thread and start your own)
Maintaining caste boundaries is part of the social duty of a
Shankaracharya. SBS gave out mantras in India and therefore taught in
the classical mode, i.e. by caste and family affiliation.
Westerners don' t have a caste system and the Indians
On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:00 PM, emptybill wrote:
For his part, Vag distorts it all to conform to his negativity.
Read the post from earlier today please: they are direct quotes from
HH Swami Brahmananda Saraswati's lineal successor, not me.
They were posted since they are outtakes from a
For his part, Vag distorts it all to conform to his
negativity.
Vaj:
Read the post from earlier today please: they are
direct quotes from HH Swami Brahmananda Saraswati's
lineal successor, not me.
Swami Shantanand was succeeded by Swami Vasudevanand,
the current Shankaracarya of
Yaay !!! Yet another boxing..err book flinging bouts between reigning champ
emptybill and the wannabe wimpy W(v)aj.
Let's start betting y'all.
I'm betting on emptybill winning in 3 rounds.
Go emptybill !!
On Nov 29, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
On Nov 29,
Yep, I'd call it in three. emptybill's solid scholarship vs. Vaj's
Buddha-Daddy-Dharma, and Vaj is toast.
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Yaay !!! Yet another boxing..err book flinging bouts between reigning champ
emptybill and the wannabe wimpy W(v)aj.
Thanks Jim.
Let's not forget Vaj's dodgy credentials, he's a liar who produced fake
receipts to NBFF, that's National Book Flinging Federation.
Whereas my man emptybill is a lifetime platinum member of Amazon. For chissakes
this man has dedicated his life to books, he lives in a mansion of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:43 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me. IMO, the basic
element of that category of biija
by this Vag would have all the commonly used Buddhist mantras as spoiled
mantras as they come from non-Brahmins and have been given to more than 6
ears... this is the worst most destructive and discriminatory form of caste-ism
but he is happy to propagate it if he thinks it suits his sick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
Spoiled mantras
H.H. Jagadguru Swami Swaroopananda, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math
interviewed by David Sieveking
Translator: When he did the TM course of Mahesh Yogi he was asked to
pay $2500. He was then seated in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
Spoiled mantras
H.H. Jagadguru Swami Swaroopananda, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math
interviewed by David Sieveking
Translator: When he did the
On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:43 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me. IMO, the basic
element of that category of biija mantras seems to be
'agni' read backwards: 'inga'. If the first/final a-sound
is only implied, like in 'agni' (agniH/agnim/agninaa, etc)
for some sandhi
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me...
Vaj:
One of my favorite mantra dictionaries is the
Mantrarthabhidanam from the Varada Tantra...
So, you believe in 'Buddhas'.
On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:10 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me...
Vaj:
One of my favorite mantra dictionaries is the
Mantrarthabhidanam from the Varada Tantra...
So, you believe in 'Buddhas'.
I've met a few.
One of my favorite mantra dictionaries is the
Mantrarthabhidanam from the Varada Tantra...
So, you believe in 'Buddhas'.
Vaj:
I've met a few.
How many 'Dakinis' do you know?
'Dakini Teachings'
By Padmasambhava
North Atlantic Books, 2004
On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:57 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:
One of my favorite mantra dictionaries is the
Mantrarthabhidanam from the Varada Tantra...
So, you believe in 'Buddhas'.
Vaj:
I've met a few.
How many 'Dakinis' do you know?
Enough.
One of my favorite mantra dictionaries is the
Mantrarthabhidanam from the Varada Tantra...
So, you believe in 'Buddhas'.
Vaj:
I've met a few.
How many 'Dakinis' do you know?
Vaj:
Enough.
Did you ever meet up with the Yeshe Tsogyel, concubine
of Guru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:43 AM, cardemaister wrote:
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me. IMO, the basic
element of that category of biija mantras seems to be
'agni' read backwards: 'inga'. If the first/final a-sound
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me...
Vaj:
For example, another level of the TM mantra
Shreeng is Sa (the first letter) indicates
Mahalakshmi...
The TM 'shring' bija has nothing to do with Sri
Lakshmi. The Sri Vidya bijas are used in TM,
which come from Swami Brahmananda
On Nov 10, 2011, at 4:11 PM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:
Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me...
Vaj:
For example, another level of the TM mantra
Shreeng is Sa (the first letter) indicates
Mahalakshmi...
The TM 'shring' bija has nothing to do with Sri
Lakshmi. The Sri
This is bullshit unless you can provide proof of how and when SBS
transmitted Shri Vidya bija mantras to MMY. TM mantras are standard
mantras used by every pandit and pujari in and out of India.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams
willytex@... wrote:
The TM
No man. It's *Shawing* with a forward pelvic thrust.
From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring?
What Vag is not telling. What a misanthrop
emptybill@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring?
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What Vag is not telling. What a misanthrop.
Swarupananda at Dwaraka -
A further complication was introduced in 1982, when Abhinava
Sacchidananda Tirtha
What Vag is not telling. What a misanthrop.
Swarupananda at Dwaraka -
A further complication was introduced in 1982, when Abhinava
Sacchidananda Tirtha, the Sankaracharya of Dwaraka, passed away, leaving
a will with a few names as possible choices for his successor. Among
these was Swarupananda
Goddess calling, will you accept the charges?
Goddess?? You, with your tatty bathrobe, three day growth of stubble, and dirty
slippers? In light of that, the 100% human hair wig and heavy eyeshadow don't
really make a dent...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
=related
From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:31:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring?
Goddess calling, will you accept the charges?
Goddess?? You, with your tatty bathrobe, three day growth
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