Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-15 Thread emilymaenot
Hey there, no worries. I am naturally slightly paranoid alsoI like the idea of being a paranoid optimist (nod to bOb). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfdEtbyVUXI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfdEtbyVUXI ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hey

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-15 Thread doctordumbass
Very much so - being reasonably free in the world demands both qualities - I try to use each, to my advantage, peering into creative corners, discovering something I can comfortably display - lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Hey there, no worries. I am

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread nablusoss1008
. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread doctordumbass
: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? The MUM/TMO administration obviously feels that it has the basic right to discipline human beings who work for the princely sum of $50 per month (with *maybe* another $150 going to their families) to force them to practice TM and do what

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread authfriend
Barry's all manic and overstimulated because this is something new he can use to beat up on the TMO and TMers, rather than having to keep recycling all the old stuff. Same deal awhile back when it was revealed that King Tony was married. He is simply too gleeful over others' misfortunes -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/14/2014 7:46 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Barry's all manic and overstimulated because this is something /new/ he can use to beat up on the TMO and TMers, rather than having to keep recycling all the old stuff. Same deal awhile back when it was revealed that King Tony was married.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread LEnglish5
As far as I know,they're allowed to go back to India whenever they want. However, they are then in violation of their contract. I don't know what the details of that contract are. I have heard 2 conflicting stories: They get paid room, board and $50/month while here and either their

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of pundits...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? What I am commenting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/14/2014 3:38 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Now that it's clear that his hero the Lama-fellow is a complete disaster and has given up Tibet once and for all and is permanently seeking protection amongst the Hindus in India his frustration needs a focus. Never pass up a tragedy or a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 4:03 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   On Behalf Of pundits...@gmail.com What I am commenting on is your crazy-eyed cultist outlook

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread doctordumbass
*icky*. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Barry's all manic and overstimulated because this is something new he can use to beat up on the TMO and TMers, rather than having to keep recycling all the old stuff. Same deal awhile back when it was revealed that King

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Share Long
Richard, just because they don't want to go back to India, doesn't mean they want to continue being a pundit! Where is Spock when we need him?! I don't think the pundits have any contact with MUM any more. When the program started, they lived on campus. But not for quite a while now. That's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 9:27 PM, Share Long wrote: To force someone to be in a program to create world peace is a contradiction in terms! Apparently all the students and their parents think MUM is a good thing. We are all trying to promote world peace. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread emilymaenot
Share, do you believe that the program is working to create world peace? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, just because they don't want to go back to India, doesn't mean they want to continue being a pundit! Where is Spock when we need him?! I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread emilymaenot
Richard, you are delusional today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/13/2014 9:27 PM, Share Long wrote: To force someone to be in a program to create world peace is a contradiction in terms! Apparently all the students and their parents think MUM is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Share Long
No, Emily I don't. And from what I've learned here the last few days I think the reason is that some of the men don't want to be pundits. I mean really, how much peace can a person create if they're engaged in a program they don't want to be engaged in?! Especially one as rigorous as the pundit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/14/2014 10:49 AM, Share Long wrote: just because they don't want to go back to India, doesn't mean they want to continue being a pundit! According to my sources in Vedic City, none of the pundit boys have any objections to becoming Hindu pundits, but a few didn't want to go back to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread doctordumbass
Please allow me to butt in -- Quite honestly Em, I do. Not that world peace necessarily dawns, but what they are doing, is *definitely* aiding the ability of those who are so inclined, to achieve spiritual liberation. Get enough spiritually clear folks on the planet, and we might make it a few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread emilymaenot
Spiritual liberation is for the most part an inside job, imo. How are they aiding the ability of others so inclined? I am inclined, for example to desire such a thing. How are they helping me? (I have an answer to my own question, but I am curious as to your answer.) By example? Because

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread doctordumbass
I got nuttin' - sorry. I just know it works.:-) Brand me as you will, makes no diff. Like I said, I never give it much thought. No big deal, either way... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote : Spiritual liberation is for the most part an inside job, imo. How are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread emilymaenot
I'm not branding you Docthat's funny. Just curious if you had anything else to say. Many believe that prayer worksalthough one doesn't always get what one prays for. Nothing wrong with believing it; nothing wrong with prayerit's an inside job. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread doctordumbass
I totally agree with the personal work being done! No one walks around handing out donuts, or anything else, in this lifetime. As to the branded comment, I am naturally paranoid.:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/14/2014 11:16 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Richard, you are delusional today. Are there any reports of the parents of the pundit boys complaining about MUM? Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/13/2014 9:27 PM, Share Long wrote: To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/14/2014 11:44 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: (Think of your own child. I think of mine. She is about educating herself- The pundit boys are learning a trade so they can get jobs when they return home. That's the whole idea - pundits are in high demand in India.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-14 Thread doctordumbass
Hey there - I responded but didn't follow the Neo Commandment, thou shalt click, 'Show message history':-) I *totally* (like, totally) agree that we each must do our own work - Yes, no free lunches, etc. ever. As for branded, I am naturally slightly paranoid - Its harmless, but I suppose I get

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread LEnglish5
The MUM/TMO administration obviously feels that it has the basic right to discipline human beings who work for the princely sum of $50 per month (with *maybe* another $150 going to their families) to force them to practice TM and do what they're told. They even issued a press release saying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   The MUM/TMO administration obviously feels that it has the basic right to discipline human

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread LEnglish5
Are you *really* trying to make a case that children essentially sold into slavery by their own parents have an obligation to fulfill their contract? Are you saying that if said *adults* are not fulfilling the terms of their legal contract, they should continue to be housed in the USA and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   Are you *really* trying to make a case that children essentially sold into slavery

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread anartaxius
The photos of the compound in the newspaper look much like a minimum-security prison compound. I think all we need to do is have a more flexible mindset (characteristic of creative intelligence: flexibility) and agree that slavery is a good thing, and encourage its practise. Let's keep those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   Are you *really* trying to make a case that children essentially sold into slavery by their own parents have an obligation to fulfill their contract?  Are you saying that if said *adults* are not fulfilling the terms of their legal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread nablusoss1008
Well said. But they are paid 200$ a month which is quite a good salary considering that buying ability will be about x 20 for that amount in India. So most of these pundits will certainly want to hold on to this job. I think your mention of climate makes a lot of sense. This added to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Jackson
: http://www.kcrg.com/home/top-9/Sheriffs-Office-Wont-Help-With-Next-Attempt-To-Remove-Pandit--249973471.html#ixzz2vqbCqYwZ On Thu, 3/13/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread TurquoiseBee
2:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   This is great! Now when the pundits riot, they can tear up the MUM cars! Sheriff's Office Won't Help With Next Attempt To Remove Pandit By Mark Carlson, Reporter FAIRFIELD, Iowa - A pandit leader

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread authfriend
There may be, shall we say, mixed motivations--i.e., other than compassion--involved in the ascribing of blame by the TM critics on FFL. In the past, when the TMO has come significantly a-cropper, there have been veritable explosions of glee here from the critics, just as in this instance.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? The MUM/TMO administration obviously

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Michael Jackson
that's great TurqB! On Thu, 3/13/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 13

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread awoelflebater
: LEnglish5@... LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? Are you *really* trying to make a case that children essentially sold into slavery by their own parents

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread dhamiltony2k5
It would be most helpful for everyone to hear from the pundits, freely. Who is going to speak to the pundits so we can hear the pundit side of this? The Raja Wynne ? It would be most caring to have independent mediation to hear what the pundit side really is. Send in the International Red

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   that's great TurqB! I can only hope that lawyer Better Call Goldstein and many others read

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   It would be most helpful for everyone to hear from the pundits, freely. Who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 8:23 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Well, there were some unruly pundits -- obviously unstressing or possessed by rakshasas What is wrong with you, Barry? The pundits are students from India, not unruly black devil rakshasas. Maybe you should learn a little Sanskrit before you go using

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread wgm4u
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? It would be most helpful for everyone to hear from the pundits, freely. Who is going to speak to the pundits so we can hear the pundit side of this? The Raja Wynne ? It would be most caring to have independent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
...@yahoo.com wrote:   From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   It would be most helpful for everyone to hear from the pundits

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 8:51 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: that's great TurqB! What you need to do is examine your own motives for contributing to this conversation. So far, you and Barry are not looking very good in the racial profiling category. Go figure. There are probably millions of people attending

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
Judy to my satisfaction I covered the issue you mention when I wrote: And what about our own motivations as we ascribe blame without having all the facts? I felt turq's compassion in his post. I was not pandering. But you, as usual, are attempting to pass off your opinions as fact and your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
, Daddy. Father: Do you want me to get the Taser again? Do as you're told... From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread LEnglish5
Indeed I am. I am furthermore suggesting that the entire program is an ill-disguised form of modern child slavery, promoted by a known rapist in India as a mechanism to suck millions of dollars worth of donations from dumb TMers around the world, with the aid of the international TM movement

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
Lawson, I would say that if these children are forced, then the parents are mainly to blame. BUT...so also is the organization that accepts these coerced children into their programs. The TMO in my opinion, should only accept children who truly want to be in the program. There should be a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread authfriend
Read what I wrote again. You are lying when you say I was trying to pass off my opinions as fact. Not that it's a surprise to find you telling falsehoods. That's how you deal with conflict, dishonestly. And there's more than enough hard evidence of that in the archives. Want some examples? I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 10:10 AM, Share Long wrote: accept children who truly want to be in the program. Parents send their children to boarding schools all the time, even if the child does not want to go - you don't have to like your parents - just do what they tell you to do. I would think that the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
Richard, as I was saying to Lawson, it's a complicated situation. But I would say, for this kind of program to create world peace, better to only have people involved who truly want to be involved. Otherwise it's flawed from the beginning. But it's a sticky wicket. What if the parent wants to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread nablusoss1008
Turq et. al. and other pseudo-Buddhists here just need something to unstress on considering the low interest in the Dolly Lama these days. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/13/2014 10:10 AM, Share Long wrote: accept children who truly want to be in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread punditster
On 3/13/2014 9:03 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Send in the International Red Cross, the Attorneys General either State or Federal, or draw on the help of non-profit groups that specialize in traffic-ed workers. From what I can see, Tony Nader lives just a few blocks from the campus,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 6:01 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Are you *really* trying to make a case that children essentially sold into slavery by their own parents have an obligation to fulfill their contract? Answer to previous question: Yes. it looks like Barry is interested in the TMO pundit program in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Bhairitu
On 03/13/2014 04:01 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: *From:* lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:06 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? Are you *really* trying to make a case

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread TurquoiseBee
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?   Well, Lawson is a TM fanboy.  I agree. What I am commenting on is that the *extent* of his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread authfriend
When contemplating the relative sanity of Barry and Lawson, let's bear in mind that it was Barry who characterized Lawson's mention of a TV interview with an older Fairfield pundit as exploiting a celebrity endorsement--as if Lawson could have cited any number of other interviews of the pundit

[FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread punditster
] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots? Well, Lawson is a TM fanboy. I agree. What I am commenting on is that the *extent* of his fanboy antics are starting to sound like the rantings of a crazy-eyed cultist. I honestly don't think he realizes this.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread doctordumbass
is creeping me out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: LEnglish5@... LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 6:03 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: He is a little too worked up about it, being that far away, and his desperation is creeping me out. So, why do you suppose he is so interested in the pundit boys? He's never before seemed very concerned about international students on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 10:32 AM, Share Long wrote: What if the parent wants to enroll the child in the pundit program but the child doesn't want to be a pundit? Every child needs to be taught how to read and write, Share, even if they don't want to be pundits.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
Richard, I still say that with this kind of program, meant to create world peace, the participants need to voluntarily involved every step of the way. If a boy doesn't want to continue, then he should be allowed to leave. Otherwise the whole thing is flawed at the core. On Thursday, March

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 3/13/2014 7:59 PM, Share Long wrote: I still say that with this kind of program, meant to create world peace, the participants need to voluntarily involved every step of the way. If a boy doesn't want to continue, then he should be allowed to leave. Otherwise the whole thing is flawed at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: So what have we learned from the pundit riots?

2014-03-13 Thread Share Long
Richard, yes, school is a good thing. In fact a very good thing. But we're talking about way more than school. So again, since it is meant to be a program for creating world peace, for God's sake, I think the participants should be voluntary. To force someone to be in a program to create world