[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Mutineers Beware Re Rajas! of History!

2017-07-15 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
..

 In a longer view of process it is likely okay in form for Mother India to 
achieve its independence, freedom and their country back from the Britain and 
the Raj of the East India Company but evidently much of India was left landless 
and in poverty because of the Raj. 

 "The real power of the uprising was in rural India," Mr Pathak tells the BBC.
 "The tragedy we find when we visit these villages is that the descendants of 
the rebels are still mired in poverty."
 ..

 ™’s fate with its Raja?  
 ..To be seen in how they behave with the group. 
 History can be instructive to a future, for those who have eyes to see.
 -JaiGuruYou
 

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well actually this community 'process' now currently going on is a fourth time 
around with the meditating community, at least, in Fairfield with the TM 
movement and it has not necessarily gone well before for some previous 
reformists who attempted to change or streamline the TM movement’s ritual. I 
have thick files of minutes of these previous attempts at reform.

 And, More recently.. 
 leadership change in the TM community... 
 431494Re: Reformation and Renaissance  
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/431494 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/431494
 

 ..
 
 Bhairitu offers, That's why FFL stands for "Funny Farm Lounge". :
 

 srijau writes:


 you have a valid cause in many ways but you utterly discredit yourself with 
this dumb ugly and irrelevant nonsense

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Revolting (historically) against the Rajas..
 "Shah Mal and 26 leaders who were hanged on a banyan tree close to the village 
will be remembered.

 it was a mutiny of sepoys which spread to former rulers of northern India.

 ..of the many forgotten accounts of peasants and commoners, who were an 
essential part of the rebellion, the widespread extent of peasant participation,
 .. the rebels were hanged, and their lands were confiscated, auctioned off and 
redistributed among those who were loyal. 

 The villages that the British declared as baagi were the ones that had fought 
for independence, and which later faced heavy reprisals when the British 
regained control of the territories.
 ..records of 1858 sheds light on how the British attacked villages in Meerut. 
"The principal villages were successfully surrounded, a little after daybreak, 
by different parties told of. A considerable number of the men were killed; 40 
taken prisoners, 40 of whom were consequently hung…."

 "But, the role of the peasantry in the uprising has been glossed over by 
bourgeois historians,"

 ..known as sepoys, set off a rebellion against the British rule in 1857, often 
referred to as the first war of independence. Ordinary farmers took up arms to 
support them in the fight against the British, but their contribution has been 
largely forgotten."

 # Jai Guru You. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 An important component of the 1857 uprising were the "thousands of spontaneous 
peasants' jacqueries [revolt] all over northern India," writes cultural 
historian Sumanta Banerjee, in his book

 

 
 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40528129 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40528129
 





  




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Mutineers Beware Re Rajas! of History!

2017-07-14 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

That's why FFL stands for "Funny Farm Lounge". :-D

On 07/13/2017 07:34 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote:


you have a valid cause in many ways but you utterly discredit yourself 
with this dumb ugly and irrelevant nonsense







[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Mutineers Beware Re Rajas! of History!

2017-07-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well actually this community process now currently going on is a fourth time 
around with the meditating community, at least, in Fairfield with the TM 
movement and it has not necessarily gone well before for some previous 
reformists who attempted to change or streamline the TM movement’s ritual. I 
have thick files of minutes of these previous attempts at reform.

 And, More recently.. 
 leadership change in the TM community... 
 431494Re: Reformation and Renaissance  
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/431494 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/431494
 ..
 


srijau writes:
 you have a valid cause in many ways but you utterly discredit yourself with 
this dumb ugly and irrelevant nonsense

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Revolting (historically) against the Rajas..
 "Shah Mal and 26 leaders who were hanged on a banyan tree close to the village 
will be remembered.

 it was a mutiny of sepoys which spread to former rulers of northern India.

 ..of the many forgotten accounts of peasants and commoners, who were an 
essential part of the rebellion, the widespread extent of peasant participation,
 .. the rebels were hanged, and their lands were confiscated, auctioned off and 
redistributed among those who were loyal. 

 The villages that the British declared as baagi were the ones that had fought 
for independence, and which later faced heavy reprisals when the British 
regained control of the territories.
 ..records of 1858 sheds light on how the British attacked villages in Meerut. 
"The principal villages were successfully surrounded, a little after daybreak, 
by different parties told of. A considerable number of the men were killed; 40 
taken prisoners, 40 of whom were consequently hung…."

 "But, the role of the peasantry in the uprising has been glossed over by 
bourgeois historians,"

 ..known as sepoys, set off a rebellion against the British rule in 1857, often 
referred to as the first war of independence. Ordinary farmers took up arms to 
support them in the fight against the British, but their contribution has been 
largely forgotten."

 # Jai Guru You. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 An important component of the 1857 uprising were the "thousands of spontaneous 
peasants' jacqueries [revolt] all over northern India," writes cultural 
historian Sumanta Banerjee, in his book

 

 
 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40528129 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-40528129
 





  


[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Mutineers Beware Re Rajas! of History!

2017-07-13 Thread srijau
you have a valid cause in many ways but you utterly discredit yourself with 
this dumb ugly and irrelevant nonsense